FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

[at23steelers]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game



Very good post DCEBB. The Steelers need a new CB in the draft so would you mind posting the ratings of:

Aaron Williams
Jimmy Smith
Brandon Harris
Ras I Dawling

We also need a new guard. So, who are your top 2 guards? Thanks!

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Very good post DCEBB. The Steelers need a new CB in the draft so would you mind posting the ratings of:

Aaron Williams
Jimmy Smith
Brandon Harris
Ras I Dawling

We also need a new guard. So, who are your top 2 guards? Thanks!

Sure thing man. Here is the format: OVR, STR, AGI, SPD, ACC, JMP. Keep in mind that the BEST rookie rating so far is Peterson at a 73 OVR and these ratings were as of the end of the college season so players will be higher and moved around since December.

Williams: 62, 61, 89, 83, 88, 84
Smith: 58, 62, 83, 89, 88, 79
Harris: 63, 58, 87, 87, 87, 76
Dowling: 43 (injury) 58, 88, 90, 92, 85

Best OGs:
Pouncey: 63, 83, 63, 56, 67, 44
Watkins: 59, 86, 65, 45, 68, 46

As you can see, the OVRs will go up during camps and preseason. Pro Days will also help some guys out in their raw attributes but this gives you a post-combine idea.

[bakedpotato4103]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Will 10 yard splits (acceleration) affect 40 yard times (speed)? Or will the speed rating only be influenced by the 40 time?

What I mean is this:

Player A runs a 4.4 40 with a 1.5 10 yard split.
Player B runs a 4.4 40 with a 1.8 10 yard split.

Player A was quicker to get to his top speed, so his acceleration should be higher. Since player B finished the 40 at the exact same time, shouldn't he have lower acceleration but a higher total speed rating?

[guaps]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Just another update here:

This week most of the 16000 players in the database will have their appropriate basic data entered. This includes name, dob, college, experience, and raw attributes. This includes spd, str, agi, acc, and jmp attributes. Shortly after ovr updates from last season will be completed for players with last names F through Z. Then, prior to the draft all players will receive end of season updates with new ovr ratings and full attributes. I will keep you all updated and will also be adding a Facebook page for the site so stay tuned.

Will be looking forward to the end result.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Will 10 yard splits (acceleration) affect 40 yard times (speed)? Or will the speed rating only be influenced by the 40 time?

What I mean is this:

Player A runs a 4.4 40 with a 1.5 10 yard split.
Player B runs a 4.4 40 with a 1.8 10 yard split.

Player A was quicker to get to his top speed, so his acceleration should be higher. Since player B finished the 40 at the exact same time, shouldn't he have lower acceleration but a higher total speed rating?

The 40 measures the pure, total distance over the time of the run since ACC and SPD work together, not separately in the game. The 10 yard split does in fact help determine the ACC rating. In the case of your example, their SPDs would be equal, but player A would have a higher ACC rating. I understand that it may work to simply measure the last 30 yards or 20 yards (we also get 20 yard splits) but since both SPD and ACC work together symbiotically, we can't simply separate them. Good question though.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Will be looking forward to the end result.

If you have noticed, Most of the basic data is in for all players. Now I am just finishing those that didn't have it and getting rid of long retired players from the database...cleaning house if you will. Those will be uploaded and finished in the coming weeks as I am doing about 300 per day or more. That will be followed by the rest of the attributes, new overall ratings, and then the 2011 draft class in time for the 2011 season.

[KingV2k3]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Thanks for the detailed response!

I'm REALLY looking forward to playing next year's title with these ratings...

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Thanks for the detailed response!

I'm REALLY looking forward to playing next year's title with these ratings...

Well sorry for the novel, but I believe in flushing out how they work for the benefit of the users. Keep the great questions coming!

[KingV2k3]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Well sorry for the novel, but I believe in flushing out how they work for the benefit of the users. Keep the great questions coming!

HA!

I really enjoy the super detailed responses...I appreciate how well thought out your system is...

It's always hard to say how each year's version of the game will treat things like progression / regression, but it's always "off", due to the superstar ratings that come as a result of too highly rated existing players and the recent potential based progression which isn't that well implemented...

Then, of course, there's the lack of pancakes, which seem to be the only thing that gets the OL a bump...

I had low sack totals and high run stats, but my A and B potential 2 and 3 year vets dropped, due to lack of pancakes...

So, there's always THAT issue as well...

So many workarounds (needed), so little time...

[guaps]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

I understand that it may work to simply measure the last 30 yards or 20 yards (we also get 20 yard splits) but since both SPD and ACC work together symbiotically, we can't simply separate them.

And that's a shame. I still recall that I got excited when I heard that Madden 11 would make the acceleration rating relevant, but I also remember my disappointment when I saw the video in the acceleration/agility blog and saw it first hand in the game.

If you have noticed, Most of the basic data is in for all players. Now I am just finishing those that didn't have it and getting rid of long retired players from the database...cleaning house if you will. Those will be uploaded and finished in the coming weeks as I am doing about 300 per day or more. That will be followed by the rest of the attributes, new overall ratings, and then the 2011 draft class in time for the 2011 season.

I hadn't noticed But judging from the ratings posted so far in here, I'd say that they appear to be more realistic than Maddens (from a pure scale-based approach). Ratings in the 90's (both overall and individual) should be very rare and reserved for the very best in my opinion.

The only thing I envisage would become a challenge is Madden progression system. After two years of franchise mode the games ratings would be distorted again and you'd be back at status quo.

[Yrogergj24]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Why can't I join the site

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

And that's a shame. I still recall that I got excited when I heard that Madden 11 would make the acceleration rating relevant, but I also remember my disappointment when I saw the video in the acceleration/agility blog and saw it first hand in the game.

I hadn't noticed But judging from the ratings posted so far in here, I'd say that they appear to be more realistic than Maddens (from a pure scale-based approach). Ratings in the 90's (both overall and individual) should be very rare and reserved for the very best in my opinion.

The only thing I envisage would become a challenge is Madden progression system. After two years of franchise mode the games ratings would be distorted again and you'd be back at status quo.

Yes, that is the biggest disappointment...but because of my link to those who own the game's rights, I am hoping that a bigger change can be implemented at some point. Basically the guy who powers my website is one of the actual John Madden's long-time friends. He also knows John's daughter very well as she is still in charge of the series from a namesake point of view. My goal is to get these things well known enough that they gain the recognition of the dev crew so that they may be implemented.

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

Why can't I join the site

When you type in the address make sure you include the WWW. at the beginning and the /members at the end. That will allow you to see everything. The proper link is on my post signature.

[prostige-]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

are the ratings updated for download?

[DCEBB2001]

Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

are the ratings updated for download?

Wow this issue was addressed a million times it seems like already...you really should READ the entire thread.

They are NOT available for DL at this point, but should be for this upcoming season for Madden 12. Otherwise, you can simply edit player ratings in the game according to how they are rated on the site.