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  • ABR173rd
    Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
    • Aug 2009
    • 1523

    #1

    Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

    I just made a trade during the draft using the trade block and traded three of my star players for a first round pick offered by Baltimore. I go back to the draft and sim to my next pick which should have been Blatimores first round and it sims into my next pick in the fourth round?? Basically Baltimore traded me a 1st round pick it had already used so I didn't get it and they got three of my star players for free???? To make things worse the 2 CB's I drafted in the top ten of the first round turned out to be C potential players......
  • blocknose
    Rookie
    • Jun 2007
    • 347

    #2
    Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

    this problem has been in the game since ps2

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    • Azcardinal32
      Rookie
      • Apr 2009
      • 250

      #3
      Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

      really? that sucks man ive never seen that before... check your franchise options and make sure they are all set to user.. usually when you have to sign a head coach in that offseason, whether it be a new one or your old one, it will change everything back to CPU.. so maybe the CPU did a trade without you knowing?

      also none of my business but you had 2 top ten picks? why do you need another 1st round pick? madden franchise is already easy enough..
      Last edited by Azcardinal32; 03-05-2011, 09:29 AM.

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      • TheDelta
        MVP
        • Sep 2010
        • 1313

        #4
        Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

        Yeah I almost always try to trade out of the first round, players there are much too expensive and especially the top 10 are often loaded with players with nice stats but B potential while you can have a player that's just as good with A potential in the later rounds and you can easily sign him for a cheap long term deal.

        And if you scout well you should usually be able to avoid C potential players easily, the Draft is really too easy to dominate as a user.
        You gotta have Hope! (My Minnesota Vikings franchise)

        After an incredible 2012 season ends with a Super Bowl win, Hope Turner and her Vikings are trying to prove that their performance was more than just a one-shot.

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        • kpkpkp
          Banned
          • Mar 2007
          • 1733

          #5
          Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

          Always make trades for draft picks during the regular season... BEFORE the post season and drafting phase of the game... This will avoid that bug.

          Originally posted by Azcardinal32
          also none of my business but you had 2 top ten picks? why do you need another 1st round pick? madden franchise is already easy enough..
          Originally posted by TheDelta
          And if you scout well you should usually be able to avoid C potential players easily, the Draft is really too easy to dominate as a user.
          Exactly.

          Although I'm thinking OP does not know about the draft guide or cheap scouting... where he could just draft all A potential players.

          Since he is doing it the "honest" way he has to make trades for first round picks like owners in real life would.

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          • TheDelta
            MVP
            • Sep 2010
            • 1313

            #6
            Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

            Originally posted by kpkpkp
            Always make trades for draft picks during the regular season... BEFORE the post season and drafting phase of the game... This will avoid that bug.
            I always make a ton of trades on draft day and never encountered that bug. I mean, since there's no possibility to know in advance when a player will be drafted save for looking up the classes (very realistic... it's not like there's a whole community of draftniks doing nothing else all year but trying to predict who will be taken when...) how else can I make sure I get the players I want in advance?

            But what I usually do is that once the draft starts, I look for the players I want, make a list, compare it to my picks and then make a couple of specific trades trying to get into the positions I want, since that usually happens during the first round and I'm mostly trading up and down picks for round 3-5, sometimes 2, that helps avoid such bugs.

            Or simply look up what pick it is before making a trade...
            You gotta have Hope! (My Minnesota Vikings franchise)

            After an incredible 2012 season ends with a Super Bowl win, Hope Turner and her Vikings are trying to prove that their performance was more than just a one-shot.

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            • ABR173rd
              Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
              • Aug 2009
              • 1523

              #7
              Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

              Originally posted by kpkpkp
              Always make trades for draft picks during the regular season... BEFORE the post season and drafting phase of the game... This will avoid that bug.





              Exactly.

              Although I'm thinking OP does not know about the draft guide or cheap scouting... where he could just draft all A potential players.

              Since he is doing it the "honest" way he has to make trades for first round picks like owners in real life would.
              As far as having three first round draft picks I was way over salary cap so I traded players for picks. I also understand a lot of people here saying drafting talent is easy, I use the scouting team that allows me to scout 18 players at a time and I use the info I scout and the talent WEB to decide who I'm going to draft.
              Is there other things you guys are looking at when drafting players to help you decide their potential?

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              • kpkpkp
                Banned
                • Mar 2007
                • 1733

                #8
                Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                Originally posted by AirborneRanger1
                As far as having three first round draft picks I was way over salary cap so I traded players for picks. I also understand a lot of people here saying drafting talent is easy, I use the scouting team that allows me to scout 18 players at a time and I use the info I scout and the talent WEB to decide who I'm going to draft.
                Is there other things you guys are looking at when drafting players to help you decide their potential?
                http://www.operationsports.com/forum...ass-guide.html

                (SPOILERS)

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                • bichettehappens
                  MVP
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 2547

                  #9
                  U can tell potential from the scouting screen during the season, just look for the guys with the full bar

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                  • TheDelta
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1313

                    #10
                    Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                    No, but how can you end up with C potential players out of the Top 10 if you do scout? C potential players never have a great "potential" bar (I personally try to never draft any player whose potential bar isn't green and I've never gotten anything worse than B potential that way) and their stats shouldn't be good enough to ever warrant a Top 10 pick.

                    Also, realize that for most players, you don't need to scout them for 6 weeks. For example, for OLine, you never need more than 2 weeks, either you get the Run/Pass Block ratings first (which is all you should care about), or you don't, then waiting for the rest won't help anyway. If you don't get their Run/Pass Block in the first 2 weeks, just look their talent hex up in the draft and compare them to players whose ratings you know.

                    You can look up the Speed rating of a player just by looking at his 40 time, that saves me a lot of time with prospects, if a CBs 40 is 4.50, I don't need him, it's as simple as that. Also, you need to know which ratings matter for which position. If I scout a LB or DE and the first thing I read "his tackle rating is below 59", I don't need him, it doesn't matter what his other ratings are.

                    For some other positions, like CB especially, scouting doesn't really matter, because the rating you really want to know about (Man/Zone Cover, Press) you can't scout. So all I do there is pick out the guys who are fast enough, scout them to know their potential and then look up their talent hex in the draft.

                    In general, you almost never need to take anyone in the first round, for most positions, you can easily find A potential guys with great stats in rounds 3-5, they're even easier to make out there because a great talent hex sticks out in between all those mediocre guys and there's less "bust" players with good stats but low potential hidden in there than in the 1st.
                    You gotta have Hope! (My Minnesota Vikings franchise)

                    After an incredible 2012 season ends with a Super Bowl win, Hope Turner and her Vikings are trying to prove that their performance was more than just a one-shot.

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                    • ABR173rd
                      Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1523

                      #11
                      Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                      When you say talent bar you are referring to in draft, or the potential bar during scouting? During the draft it has players ranked by what round they should go in like top ten or 1st round or 1-2nd round I usually go to position needs and then if there is two CB's for instance I look at what Ive scouted in terms of ratings. If I haven't scouted then I go to their talent web. But the two CB's I drafted both had top ten next to them and they were both busts.
                      I have also never seen a green bar I'm playing on PS3.

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                      • bichettehappens
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2547

                        #12
                        Originally posted by AirborneRanger1
                        When you say talent bar you are referring to in draft, or the potential bar during scouting? During the draft it has players ranked by what round they should go in like top ten or 1st round or 1-2nd round I usually go to position needs and then if there is two CB's for instance I look at what Ive scouted in terms of ratings. If I haven't scouted then I go to their talent web. But the two CB's I drafted both had top ten next to them and they were both busts.
                        I have also never seen a green bar I'm playing on PS3.
                        Potential bar during scouting

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                        • TheDelta
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1313

                          #13
                          Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                          Originally posted by AirborneRanger1
                          When you say talent bar you are referring to in draft, or the potential bar during scouting?
                          The bar during scouting of course, the one that says "High" and is green on high potential players. Note that the bar is not correct until you actually scout him, after the first week of scouting, look at the talent bar again and look if it has moved up or down. After scouting a player for one week, you know the correct potential level. If a player there has a green bar, he's always at least a B, mostly A potential. If the bar is completely full, it's always A potential.

                          The draft grad has NOTHING to do with player potential or ratings. A player is NOT better just because he is rated in the first round. Actually, there's always a couple of intentional busts hidden in the first round, players with decent ratings that are only C potential. NEVER pick players because of the round they're set to go in, always look for the ones you scouted. The scouting and the skill hex combined never lie, if you got a player scouted with high potential and his skill hex looks great but he's a 5th round pick, then don't take anyone else, trade down if you want, take him in the 5th round, often enough the best players at a position are 3rd to 5th round picks.
                          You gotta have Hope! (My Minnesota Vikings franchise)

                          After an incredible 2012 season ends with a Super Bowl win, Hope Turner and her Vikings are trying to prove that their performance was more than just a one-shot.

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                          • ABR173rd
                            Rangers Lead The Way!!!!
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1523

                            #14
                            Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                            I just looked over the draft guide and compared it to my current draft class. I was always under the impression that the round they are projected to go in was directly linked to their potential bar which I now know is not the case. Thanks for the info.

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                            • Gordy748
                              Rookie
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 273

                              #15
                              Re: Robbed by CPU in Franchise!!!

                              I've started a new franchise and am using a simple couple of rules regarding scouting.

                              1. Go through each position and find where the draft potential runs deep. Compare with your team's weaknesses (too many to count in Seattle) and select the ones you want to scout.

                              2. DON'T change the ones you scout. Once you've picked your 18 or so, that's it.

                              3. In the draft pick from only the ones you've scouted, until you don't have any left. Then you can pick who you like/ whatever's left.

                              I've found this gives me the chance to use the scouting function, which is a bit of a cheat. But it doesn't let me take too much advantage of it.

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