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  • prostige-
    Banned
    • Jan 2011
    • 86

    #106
    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

    I have a question. Why is desean jackson speed and acceleration where it is? I just want to now why it is like that.

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    • DCEBB2001
      MVP
      • Nov 2008
      • 2569

      #107
      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

      Originally posted by prostige-
      I have a question. Why is desean jackson speed and acceleration where it is? I just want to now why it is like that.
      Because Jackson posted the following times at his combine/pro day:
      4.35 40, 1.53 10, 4.19 shuttle

      The best of these times correlate to the SPD of 92 and ACC of 87. Now, remember that a 90 is considered to be elite. The number of players with a 90+ speed is very small. Combine this with the position-specific ratings to be added and Desean will for certain, be a formidable weapon. His SPM, and JKM ratings will be very high. Remember, it is not how one player is rated in one attribute, but rather how ALL the attributes work together. You can no longer take the fastest or most agile players and expect them to be supermen. Rather, they have to have solid ratings in each relevant category to be great players. The days of having all 99s in each attribute are over in this system.
      Dan B.
      Player Ratings Administrator
      www.fbgratings.com/members
      NFL Scout
      www.nfldraftscout.com/members

      Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
      https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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      • prostige-
        Banned
        • Jan 2011
        • 86

        #108
        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

        Originally posted by DCEBB2001
        Because Jackson posted the following times at his combine/pro day:
        4.35 40, 1.53 10, 4.19 shuttle

        The best of these times correlate to the SPD of 92 and ACC of 87. Now, remember that a 90 is considered to be elite. The number of players with a 90+ speed is very small. Combine this with the position-specific ratings to be added and Desean will for certain, be a formidable weapon. His SPM, and JKM ratings will be very high. Remember, it is not how one player is rated in one attribute, but rather how ALL the attributes work together. You can no longer take the fastest or most agile players and expect them to be supermen. Rather, they have to have solid ratings in each relevant category to be great players. The days of having all 99s in each attribute are over in this system.
        thanks man

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        • KWicKy78
          Rookie
          • Mar 2011
          • 26

          #109
          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

          This is incredible man. I'll admit I haven't read through the whole thread so a couple quick questions:

          1. Are you going to post it publicly when you are finished? Or do you have to be a member to see the complete ratings?

          2. Are you guys planning to be done by the release of Madden 12 or what is your time table?

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          • at23steelers
            Pro
            • Dec 2009
            • 950

            #110
            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

            Originally posted by KWicKy78
            This is incredible man. I'll admit I haven't read through the whole thread so a couple quick questions:

            1. Are you going to post it publicly when you are finished? Or do you have to be a member to see the complete ratings?

            2. Are you guys planning to be done by the release of Madden 12 or what is your time table?
            Whatsup 49ers fan!! I agree this has the potential to be very good. Keep it up, DCEBB!!
            Have an awesome day!!

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            • Yrogergj24
              MVP
              • Feb 2011
              • 1102

              #111
              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

              Originally posted by DCEBB2001
              When you type in the address make sure you include the WWW. at the beginning and the /members at the end. That will allow you to see everything. The proper link is on my post signature.
              Thanks very much

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              • DCEBB2001
                MVP
                • Nov 2008
                • 2569

                #112
                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                Originally posted by KWicKy78
                This is incredible man. I'll admit I haven't read through the whole thread so a couple quick questions:

                1. Are you going to post it publicly when you are finished? Or do you have to be a member to see the complete ratings?

                2. Are you guys planning to be done by the release of Madden 12 or what is your time table?
                It is open to ANYONE with the proper web address. You have to have the correct address which is in my sig.

                I am planning on being entirely done for Madden 12. All players should be good to go by then if all goes according to plan.
                Dan B.
                Player Ratings Administrator
                www.fbgratings.com/members
                NFL Scout
                www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                • KingV2k3
                  Senior Circuit
                  • May 2003
                  • 5881

                  #113
                  Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                  Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                  It is open to ANYONE with the proper web address. You have to have the correct address which is in my sig.

                  I am planning on being entirely done for Madden 12. All players should be good to go by then if all goes according to plan.
                  I'm really hoping that there will be PS3 versions of the Madden 12 roster available for download...

                  I used to use the site for CAPs, but I have to admit that editing the whole league by hand would be impossible for me...

                  I'd happily pay a fee for downloads or contribute by subscribing to the site as a member...

                  Do you have a outline for how you will proceed with all of that yet, Dan?

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                  • DCEBB2001
                    MVP
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 2569

                    #114
                    Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                    Originally posted by KingV2k3
                    I'm really hoping that there will be PS3 versions of the Madden 12 roster available for download...

                    I used to use the site for CAPs, but I have to admit that editing the whole league by hand would be impossible for me...

                    I'd happily pay a fee for downloads or contribute by subscribing to the site as a member...

                    Do you have a outline for how you will proceed with all of that yet, Dan?
                    Once fully operational with all ratings, the site will be publicly open to anyone. After that, I will employ a team to create the rosters for DL on Xbox and PS3. I have not yet decided if there will be any charge for the rosters, but I will not rule it out. I guess if I got a job doing rosters at EA that would make the point of charging people useless...but I can only hope that the site and method gains enough attention to get an offer. Until then, I already have another job to pay the bills while I continue on this massive undertaking for your pleasure LOL!
                    Dan B.
                    Player Ratings Administrator
                    www.fbgratings.com/members
                    NFL Scout
                    www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                    Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                    https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                    • KingV2k3
                      Senior Circuit
                      • May 2003
                      • 5881

                      #115
                      Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                      Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                      Once fully operational with all ratings, the site will be publicly open to anyone. After that, I will employ a team to create the rosters for DL on Xbox and PS3. I have not yet decided if there will be any charge for the rosters, but I will not rule it out. I guess if I got a job doing rosters at EA that would make the point of charging people useless...but I can only hope that the site and method gains enough attention to get an offer. Until then, I already have another job to pay the bills while I continue on this massive undertaking for your pleasure LOL!
                      Thanks for the clarification, Dan...

                      Very, very generous of you!

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                      • DCEBB2001
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2569

                        #116
                        Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                        Originally posted by KingV2k3
                        Thanks for the clarification, Dan...

                        Very, very generous of you!

                        To be honest I would probably do it for my own pleasure just as well LOL! I love doing this stuff. I get a huge amount of gratification just seeing people interested in my work...so please just enjoy it and I will continue to do it!
                        Dan B.
                        Player Ratings Administrator
                        www.fbgratings.com/members
                        NFL Scout
                        www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                        Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                        https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                        • da bucs gm
                          Rookie
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 227

                          #117
                          Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                          so I've been very interested in these ratings and have put them all in(well just the physical ratings u have up so far) in my madden 11. just one question? are u going to put in the rookies physicals? and when? thanks


                          btw love how the game is playing so far

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                          • DCEBB2001
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2569

                            #118
                            Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                            Originally posted by da bucs gm
                            so I've been very interested in these ratings and have put them all in(well just the physical ratings u have up so far) in my madden 11. just one question? are u going to put in the rookies physicals? and when? thanks


                            btw love how the game is playing so far

                            Glad to hear you like how the ratings are working. I am making some more big adjustments to all of those ratings, and things should be fully operational with ALL ratings up by kickoff 2011 whenever that is. As for the rookies, they will have their physical attributes up in a matter of weeks. There are about 2400 rookies that need to be added with each draft class and I have to enter in all data for them, including their basic data (ht, wt, college, DOB, etc) so it will take a while. Hoping that ALL basic data will be up by the end of June. After that I will have the rest of the ratings and OVR ratings ready to go for Camp circa late July.

                            BTW, what did you like or dislike about how the ratings were working in Madden 11? Would love some feedback.
                            Dan B.
                            Player Ratings Administrator
                            www.fbgratings.com/members
                            NFL Scout
                            www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                            Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                            https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                            • Thinking Out Loud
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 357

                              #119
                              Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                              Originally posted by DCEBB2001
                              Glad to hear you like how the ratings are working. I am making some more big adjustments to all of those ratings, and things should be fully operational with ALL ratings up by kickoff 2011 whenever that is. As for the rookies, they will have their physical attributes up in a matter of weeks. There are about 2400 rookies that need to be added with each draft class and I have to enter in all data for them, including their basic data (ht, wt, college, DOB, etc) so it will take a while. Hoping that ALL basic data will be up by the end of June. After that I will have the rest of the ratings and OVR ratings ready to go for Camp circa late July.

                              BTW, what did you like or dislike about how the ratings were working in Madden 11? Would love some feedback.
                              Hey DCEBB, I want to thank you for what you are trying to accomplish and I hope you meet your ultimate goal of having an official input with EA football ratings. With all the interaction that goes on between EA football devs and the community now a days, have you had a chance to even communicate with Donny Moore?

                              Man, that guy..... I want to keep this respectful, so I will tread lightly. LOL

                              In a recent video, the interviewer talked about Donny have Ratings Czar on his business card, seriously? I am glad he enjoys his job because it's hard to find a job you love and his passion for ratings really shows. I just wish he had a partner or ratings team with a different POV than his. When I read that Scouting Talent interview Donny did, I felt his approach to ratings was convoluted and over complicated. I feel with your straight forward, easy to understand, data driven approach, you at least deserve a seat at the EA football ratings table.

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                              • DCEBB2001
                                MVP
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 2569

                                #120
                                Re: FBGRatings Seeks to Recalibrate Madden Ratings, Change Game

                                Originally posted by Thinking Out Loud
                                Hey DCEBB, I want to thank you for what you are trying to accomplish and I hope you meet your ultimate goal of having an official input with EA football ratings. With all the interaction that goes on between EA football devs and the community now a days, have you had a chance to even communicate with Donny Moore?

                                Man, that guy..... I want to keep this respectful, so I will tread lightly. LOL

                                In a recent video, the interviewer talked about Donny have Ratings Czar on his business card, seriously? I am glad he enjoys his job because it's hard to find a job you love and his passion for ratings really shows. I just wish he had a partner or ratings team with a different POV than his. When I read that Scouting Talent interview Donny did, I felt his approach to ratings was convoluted and over complicated. I feel with your straight forward, easy to understand, data driven approach, you at least deserve a seat at the EA football ratings table.
                                I have not had a chance to discuss anything with Donny. If he pays enough attention to the OS, I am sure he has seen a thread or two about my site. I do know for a fact that whoever does the ratings does subscribe to the organization that powers my website, NFLdraftscout.com. If you recall that interview where the Madden devs were owned by TJ Houshmanzedeh a few years ago stating he ran a 4.61 40 time and TJ replied that he never ran one, that data was from our site. I also know that they have been around to my site as well scoping things out. If fact, some of the players they would add to roster updates in past versions of Madden (05, 06) would have the SAME CAPS as players on FBGratings.com with only a few minor differences (like KPW for a WR for example).

                                What I am attempting to do is simply do things BETTER than what EA does. Improve the quality of the game from a particular angle: ratings. I looked at all the hard data first to determine the ratings scale that matches in-game performance. I also incorporated REAL scouting data for all of my 16000+ players in the database. Converting them to Madden ratings, is actually the easy part. It's unbiased, complete scouting data in your Madden. No opinion, no BS.

                                Thanks for the props and I do hope one day to receive an offer from EA once the community realizes how complete and accurate this system is. Thanks again!
                                Dan B.
                                Player Ratings Administrator
                                www.fbgratings.com/members
                                NFL Scout
                                www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                                Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                                https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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