First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

[Watson]

The grass really looks good.

simply amazing

[TDenverFan]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

1Pic = 25 Pages of Posts Each Day... What'd happen if they showed us 5 or 6 pictures at once?

When will they post the list of the new features shown in the picture?

[Tengo Juego]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

1Pic = 25 Pages of Posts Each Day... What'd happen if they showed us 5 or 6 pictures at once?

When will they post the list of the new features shown in the picture?

Some time today. It's only 7 pages for me, btw. 40 posts per ftw!

[Bama83]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

For all complainers, I have a question, if this game isnt good enough for you guys and they not satisfying you guys, then why do you guys continue to purchase this game? Just wondering

Simple answer - what is the alternative since EA basically bought the football market?

With that said, I purchased and played NCAA 2011 for a handful of games. The gameplay was abhorrent and took no significant strides since two years ago. I took it to the store and traded it in on NHL (EAs only game that seems to actually try to be better year after year).

I do not plan to purchase 2012 until a month after the season. Let the "OH NEAT DREADZ!" people to filter out.

[mm boost]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

okay one more thing, I know it could be more or less tied to lighting, but with the post where it showed the first comparison picture from ncaa 2011, does anyone notice how much better the orange color looks on the uniforms? Looks as if they made the colors more vibrant, which is how it should be. One of my BIGGEST arguments in visual department on ncaa 2011 was the uniforms with yellow, gold, and orange on them looked like crap. I think the orange in this picture looks leaps and bounds better, which should overall add to the appearance of the game.

and I made one more observation that could just be the picture, or me wanting to see more than what is just there. Does anyone see #55 standing in the screen. Look at him, and then look at the defender and the guy with the ball. Anyone notice how the skin on the lineman is a lot more "smooth", while the defender and the ball carrier are more toned/shredded/muscle bound? This could be a new addition in appearance department. In years past, all linemen looked like juiced muscle heads. Looks like they may have added more fleshed out skin and skin tones. Just another observation I've made. Anyone else notice it, or is it just me?

[djordan]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

Man every year the 1st pic of the game comes out everyone's mouth is on the floor...Until the 1st video comes out. You guys are gullible. Lets wait till the video drop to say "OMG BEST GAME EVER" once again.... We know the track record here. Hopefully it changes this year.

[Bama83]

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Oh and one other thing, for all you people saying "who cares about dreads", were you also the same people who thought it was just fine when all the players wore #88 on the field and were white? Were you also cool with there being no commentary and just beeps and boops because after all, commentary doesn't affect game play.

Yes, as I matter of fact I wouldn't really care. (Partly because when I was in the game, I was #83 and a white guy ... 83 looked pretty close to 88 on my ancient CRT. So I was happy).

Seriously though, think of the process as a reverse onion. The core of the onion is the gameplay and engine. From there, you can layer on details until you have a massive freaking onion, but you can't do it the other way starting with nice, shiny graphics and work in.

So, for me, until they fix the gameplay, I'd be fine with a bunch of stick figures on the screen with generic 16-bit sound. Once they get the gameplay mechanics and AI schemes right, then layer on the graphics, sounds, commentary, etc.

And for those of you crying about how dreads and long hair "took away from fixing the real issues", news flash for you - THE ART TEAM DOES NOT WORK ON GAME PLAY ISSUES!!!!!!!!!!. EA has come in here and said it time and time again but you people either bury your heads in the and and keep up with your ridiculous arguments or else you simply only poke your heads in here to whine and moan about some new flaw you found.

Yawn, and people that buy that nonsense are the same simpletons that don't understand budgets and constraints.

Fundamentally that statement is correct. In application, it's incorrect and downright misleading.

Projects are managed on a resource basis. The resources in this scenario aren't people, but cash and time. The project department will allocate a certain amount of money for the project and give a deliverable date.

So, while the the graphics team doesn't work on the core engine and vice versa - the dollars to pay for each one come from the same pool.

If we simplified the project to a simple spend equation based on funding two departments from the pool of funds we would see:
[$POOL] = [$GRAPHICS] + [$GAMEPLAY]

What does this tell you? It tells you that the amount you can spend on gameplay is directly impacted by the spend on graphics. The proof is done using ridiculously basic algebra:
[$GAMEPLAY] = [$POOL] - [$GRAPHICS]

So, while the teams may not be cross-functional - the resources spent on the project are defined and are the constraint that dictates the amount of attention the rest of the project gets.

Go ahead and bold it, capitalize it and put a dozen exclamation points next to it if it makes you happy - it only shows how ignorant you are of the budgeting process (albeit that lack of understanding might make you a sure-fire winner in congressional elections).

Also, for those of you who seem indifferent, I think you'll see when you get the game just how much it can really serve to make the game look less like a clone factory, as it does now, and more like a real NCAA game.

As was stated so eloquently earlier in this thread - people PLAY football, they don't LOOK football.

[COACH WEBB]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

So, for me, until they fix the gameplay, I'd be fine with a bunch of stick figures on the screen with generic 16-bit sound. Once they get the gameplay mechanics and AI schemes right, then layer on the graphics, sounds, commentary, etc.

I HIGHLY doubt this, especially this being the next generation of consoles. And besides, its EARLY. I don't understand why people are getting bent out of shape over one picture. The gameplay things they added/changed, will be addressed to us.

[peteykirch]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12

Dreads are in, but will they be static or will they be free flowing?

[Catamount53]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

Yawn, and people that buy that nonsense are the same simpletons that don't understand budgets and constraints.

Fundamentally that statement is correct. In application, it's incorrect and downright misleading.

I don't think you understand, EA is going to work on graphics every year. They can spend the whole time working on field goal nets and things people don't really care about or they can spend the time working on things that the community has been asking for.

There is not ever going to be a year where they don't work on graphics at all and only focus on gameplay. The most important point is that they have not announced anything about game play changes yet but you are on this thread about a picture complaining about something that has nothing to do with it.

At least give the guys a chance nobody is forcing you to look at this forum about NCAA or buy the game.

[da ThRONe]

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I HIGHLY doubt this, especially this being the next generation of consoles. And besides, its EARLY. I don't understand why people are getting bent out of shape over one picture. The gameplay things they added/changed, will be addressed to us.

This. I took a bunch of heat around here during the 10' cycle. I was applauded that "Team Builder" made it in over locomotion. I said 10' would be a crappy game(and IMO I was right), but this was after I received all the important info about the game.

I have no problem with potential and/or loyal buyers calling out a product ,however maybe you should wait until all the info is out before blasting the game.

NCAA 11 was leaps and bounds better then anything this gen(which isn't saying much I admit). If NCAA 12 takes a similar leap this year we could be talking about game of the year. While I doubt it NCAA is under new leadership and after NCAA 11(which wasn't prefect) I think the new lead has earned some leeway.

[SynShadowzz]

It amuses me to read the numerous comments which attack the dev & marketing teams. "I DON'T CARE ABOUT DREADLOCKS! SHOW ME GAMEPLAY."

Hey, chill out dude. Why the anger over a screenshot? It seems the point of this screenshot is to show-off a little of the graphical, equipment, and personality changes. Gameplay videos will come out, just relax.

What are you mad about? I'm seriously asking you. What makes you angry about this screenshot? It looks good, it serves it's purpose, and it's an update... So again, what exactly are you angry about?

I think someone said (paraphrasing here) "this is just more fluff to cover up bad gameplay." Really guy? You know this... how? Oh you mean, you're assuming. Right. Yeah, well, we all make assumptions. It's not unlike the guy who sees the Team Builder window on the bottom right hand corner of the NCAA 12 website, and continues to convince himself that it means we'll have customizable playbooks. Even though it looks like 2011 Team Builder screen to me.

In any event, just enjoy the fact that we're seeing SOMETHING.

[TallyBoi7]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

Haven't been in the NCAA Forum in a while...still kinda bummed that I spent 60 bucks for NCAA 11 and then my XBOX got the RROD...switched to PS3.

HOWEVER, just by going off of the early pic, graphic look pretty nice. I really love the look of the grass. I hated how in other versions of the game, it looked as if players were "floating" over the playing surface. The pic makes me wonder if the field tears up in real-time(kinda like MLB the Show or NFL 2K5). It would be a nice touch and one of those little things that adds to the overall game.

[RGiles36]

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Man every year the 1st pic of the game comes out everyone's mouth is on the floor...Until the 1st video comes out. You guys are gullible. Lets wait till the video drop to say "OMG BEST GAME EVER" once again.... We know the track record here. Hopefully it changes this year.

True, but NCAA 11 was well received around here. Many OSers profess it to be better than Madden, although that is subjective. I think the arrow is pointing up for NCAA.

[Bama83]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

I HIGHLY doubt this, especially this being the next generation of consoles.

Doubt it all you want. I would easily be happy this year with an authentic football experience. Physics, momentum, more diversity in playing styles and skills all wrapped in the stick figure shell.

Add the graphics and presentation layers after.

And besides, its EARLY.I don't understand why people are getting bent out of shape over one picture. The gameplay things they added/changed, will be addressed to us.

Yes, they added/changed/tweaked gameplay last year too.

The issue is that the core is broken. So they simply spin their wheels and promise new enhancements to gameplay but it's more of the same.

The issue is that the core aspect of fundamental football isn't entertaining or splashy. The foundation of the gameplay foundation is broken. It's the offensive and defensive line. Without these players doing their actual jobs properly (assignments, skill, etc) the rest of the engine is broken.

Instead, we'll get enhancements to QBs. Or new running animations. Or new tackling "engine". Which is all fine and dandy, but the fundamental of the entire game is broken which means the rest will follow suit.

So, sure, they'll tell us what they "fixed" but they still won't address the real issue - the core engine.