First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

[Dalsanto0026]

Re: First NCAA Football 12 Screenshot, Dreads Are Back - What Else Can You Spot?

It amuses me to read the numerous comments which attack the dev & marketing teams. "I DON'T CARE ABOUT DREADLOCKS! SHOW ME GAMEPLAY."

Hey, chill out dude. Why the anger over a screenshot? It seems the point of this screenshot is to show-off a little of the graphical, equipment, and personality changes. Gameplay videos will come out, just relax.

What are you mad about? I'm seriously asking you. What makes you angry about this screenshot? It looks good, it serves it's purpose, and it's an update... So again, what exactly are you angry about?

I think someone said (paraphrasing here) "this is just more fluff to cover up bad gameplay." Really guy? You know this... how? Oh you mean, you're assuming. Right. Yeah, well, we all make assumptions. It's not unlike the guy who sees the Team Builder window on the bottom right hand corner of the NCAA 12 website, and continues to convince himself that it means we'll have customizable playbooks. Even though it looks like 2011 Team Builder screen to me.

In any event, just enjoy the fact that we're seeing SOMETHING.

This.

The screenshot looks amazing, the lighting, the grass, the player models and the dirt stains on their uniforms...truly impressive.

Incredible level of detail.

[da ThRONe]

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Let's not say that Backbreaker didn't look good. It didn't look real, but it was no graphical slouch.

Well I will apologize for making a generalization. I was talking about player models which IMO is the most important aspect of graphics.

[sparkdawg777]

Well about thirty minutes till all the guessing is over and in about forty minutes later you see 4-5 guys banned.lol

I'm still interested to see what comes. I'm still under the impression that this is the year for the football games to get physics every other sports game for EA has along with the EA non sport titles.

Yeh and I think it has worked well in the other games, I think the wait has just been because they need to get it right, football is the most physical sport. (Hockey is too) but I mean almost everyone is engaged in another player every play so that means if there are bugs players would be falling down all over the place lol. But I'm hoping this is the year!

[theharbinater]

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Not rushing to defense but laughing at folks like you who already condemn it months before release.

Oh...and Bammer sucks.

you shut your mouth...

about the last part, not the first part. i agree with that.

that last part, them's fightin' words

[rolltide282]

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WOW EA... way to give us dreads the year my favorite player, Julio Jones, leaves.

[Mr5000]

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Am I the only person who wishes they would bring suspensions back?

[mrMagic91]

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This post is ridiculous.
We get the first photo. Which is awesome, and people bash so hard. Its crazy.

[ipadblack11]

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The grass really looks good.

EVERYONE REMEMBER, this is a picture not ACTUAL GAMEPLAY the grass WILL NOT look like that all the time. Plus it seems REALLY bright. Still no mouth Pieces since 06. Cute though

[SynShadowzz]

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I can answer this from my perspective -

It's historically what EA does. They pepper in a great looking screen shot at a visual depth that is not representative of the in-game product to get people in a lather.

People go ga-ga and say "this is the year they really get it going" because it looks amazing.

But, the truth is - it's a zoomed in shot of the replay screen which shows depth that is actually not in the actual gameplay. So, they show off visual details that are misleading when you actually compare to gameplay visuals.

Further, EAs typical brand strategy is:
1) Upgrade graphics with small tweaks
2) Add/Enhance a poorly implemented gimmick feature
3) Upgrade some offensive aspects (including plays)
4) Make some minor tweak to the engine and call it revolutionary
5) Rinse and repeat for EA yyyy+1

So, I get upset when I see the same pattern emerge and the ongoing issues with the core mechanics are overlooked.

I've said it before and I'll say it again - football is a sport based around size, speed and strength. Yet, only one of these factors matter. The core engine needs to be built around a physics model. I don't mean layer in a few physics aspects and call it a day - I mean actually make it the fundamental aspect of the entire game.

From there, the entire attribute ratings system needs an overhaul. There should be far more actual attributes and modifiers that there currently are. As it currently stands, players are clones of one another for the most part. There is nothing that makes one player unique compared to another. There's no reason to sub players into certain plays or formations because they are an OVR downgrade. There was no real difference when I played with Tim Tebow or Sam Bradford or Colt McCoy ... but in real life each of these players play the game completely differently and have different skillsets.

From a actual gameplay standpoint, football begins at the offensive/defensive line and spreads outward. Get the basic mechanics and assignments correct here. Bring in OL/DL gurus and determine actual blocking schemes and what a lineman would do in certain situations. Give these positions a priority. Build outward from this.

Assign as much time to "boring defense" as you do to "exciting offense". Give people the ability to truly bring in complex defenses that mask or confuse the offense.

Until they begin to admit it's flawed and outline a strategy to address them - they are not making a better product. I would liken it to building a computer with a crappy graphics card and rather than updating the graphics card to make the system better, you buy a new monitor and hard drive. Sure, it adds value to the system but the same core issue remains.

Right, ok... and where exactly do you see that the gameplay hasn't improved? You're assuming WAY too much from a screenshot.

[ODogg]

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Honestly game play gurus have NOTHING to bitch about until multiple videos of the game in action are released and they can pick them apart (as they always do). I do find it funny though how so many folks think that you have to choose one or the other. I wonder how you guys select your girlfriends, do you think "hmm...this time my girlfriend either has to be really hot and dumb as a bag of rocks or a genius with a face only a mother could love?" They are not, never have been, and never will be, mutually exclusive. Improving graphics and details does not mandate that game play has not improved. Just as game play tweaks improving does not mean they didn't work on the details.

The bottom line is I'm sure EA has improved some things in game play and made some folks happy while improving some things in graphics & details and made some folks happy. And all the while I'm sure they'll make a good deal of folks mad about their game as well. If ultimately you find the game "abhorrent" then quit buying it and vote with your dollars. To find a game abhorrent and still buy it means you either have too much money or not enough brains.

BTW - Some of you guys are extremely clueless as to how games in general are developed and it's showing in this thread. Maybe visit a game company, read a magazine on game development or simply read more online about the process sometime.

[Hooe]

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Just now seeing the video and blog. This game is gorgeous.

I'm curious to see how the point-sprite grass looks while the game is in motion, though.

[Hooe]

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Let's not say that Backbreaker didn't look good. It didn't look real, but it was no graphical slouch.

Not to go too far off-topic, but aside from the player models, which was an interesting design choice by NaturalMotion and 505, Backbreaker looked great. I'd put the character animation of that game against any other video game that has ever come out and I think it'd compare favorably, let alone any other football game.

[mrMagic91]

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Honestly game play gurus have NOTHING to bitch about until multiple videos of the game in action are released and they can pick them apart (as they always do). I do find it funny though how so many folks think that you have to choose one or the other. I wonder how you guys select your girlfriends, do you think "hmm...this time my girlfriend either has to be really hot and dumb as a bag of rocks or a genius with a face only a mother could love?" They are not, never have been, and never will be, mutually exclusive. Improving graphics and details does not mandate that game play has not improved. Just as game play tweaks improving does not mean they didn't work on the details.

The bottom line is I'm sure EA has improved some things in game play and made some folks happy while improving some things in graphics & details and made some folks happy. And all the while I'm sure they'll make a good deal of folks mad about their game as well. If ultimately you find the game "abhorrent" then quit buying it and vote with your dollars. To find a game abhorrent and still buy it means you either have too much money or not enough brains.

BTW - Some of you guys are extremely clueless as to how games in general are developed and it's showing in this thread. Maybe visit a game company, read a magazine on game development or simply read more online about the process sometime.

Odogg, Im glad you back homie. You couldnt have said this any better

[BamBam_db]

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Odogg, Im glad you back homie. You couldnt have said this any better

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[jeremym480]

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Honestly game play gurus have NOTHING to bitch about until multiple videos of the game in action are released and they can pick them apart (as they always do). I do find it funny though how so many folks think that you have to choose one or the other. I wonder how you guys select your girlfriends, do you think "hmm...this time my girlfriend either has to be really hot and dumb as a bag of rocks or a genius with a face only a mother could love?" They are not, never have been, and never will be, mutually exclusive. Improving graphics and details does not mandate that game play has not improved. Just as game play tweaks improving does not mean they didn't work on the details.

The bottom line is I'm sure EA has improved some things in game play and made some folks happy while improving some things in graphics & details and made some folks happy. And all the while I'm sure they'll make a good deal of folks mad about their game as well. If ultimately you find the game "abhorrent" then quit buying it and vote with your dollars. To find a game abhorrent and still buy it means you either have too much money or not enough brains.

BTW - Some of you guys are extremely clueless as to how games in general are developed and it's showing in this thread. Maybe visit a game company, read a magazine on game development or simply read more online about the process sometime.

Now this is a time when I wish OS had a "Like" or "Thanks" button. Odogg, You have no idea how much I've missed you up here in these football forums. Hope your doing well and congrats on your mission to get dreads in!!