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  • Rotax
    Banned
    • Jun 2009
    • 195

    #16
    Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

    Originally posted by Dr Death
    There's also the decided advantage of motioning the RB out and getting a quick read on whether the defense is in Zone or Man... this play should be in the Run & Shoot playbooks too, even though June Jones hardly ever motions the back out like in this play.

    Maybe we'll have CUSTOM PLAYBOOKS this year and we can add this to OUR VERY OWN PLAYBOOKS!

    And... whilst we're talking about motioning guys... it would be nice if EA went back to the way it used to be... when you could start a WR in motion and then immediately send him back to his original spot... like the Run & Shoot used to do. Now, once you send a guy in motion he has to complete the entire motion before sending him back... which takes time and also looks ridiculous.
    The way you format all of your posts is very annoying.

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    • Gotmadskillzson
      Live your life
      • Apr 2008
      • 23442

      #17
      Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

      I doubt we see any videos of actual game play until end of April to early May. But when they do start posting videos I hope they be LONG videos. At least 5 minutes long.

      Like just give a quarter of actual game play. That would be cool.

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      • TIGERPRIDE08
        Rookie
        • Jul 2008
        • 2

        #18
        Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

        Originally posted by ViLLiO
        I like it but I must admit that I'm a bit worried about the gameplay changes
        i agree hope the defense can keep up but im sure they going to put some good defensive plays that we can use to counter the offense but this play is going to kill the defense if they in man the middle going to be wide open

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        • Dr Death
          Air Raid
          • May 2009
          • 1632

          #19
          Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

          Originally posted by Rotax
          The way you format all of your posts is very annoying.
          That's why they have the ignore feature... give it a try...
          Dr Death
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          • Hova57
            MVP
            • Mar 2008
            • 3754

            #20
            Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

            I still don't see why we just can't audible to go under center or to shotgun that will add plays also, but more creative.

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            • Gotmadskillzson
              Live your life
              • Apr 2008
              • 23442

              #21
              Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

              Originally posted by TIGERPRIDE08
              i agree hope the defense can keep up but im sure they going to put some good defensive plays that we can use to counter the offense but this play is going to kill the defense if they in man the middle going to be wide open
              The middle is always wide open anyway.....Slants were an automatic 1st down majority of the time.

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2790

                #22
                Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                Eh, not a big fan of forced motion plays. They usually come back to bite me because I cannot move other players.

                I really hope multiple players can be put into motion; otherwise the option offense and endarounds are still crap.
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                • Dr Death
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                  • May 2009
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                  #23
                  Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                  Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm

                  I really hope multiple players can be put into motion; otherwise the option offense and endarounds are still crap.

                  Originally posted by Hova57
                  I still don't see why we just can't audible to go under center or to shotgun that will add plays also, but more creative.

                  Both very valid and excellent points!
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                  • Palo20
                    MVP
                    • Dec 2006
                    • 3908

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                    Eh, not a big fan of forced motion plays. They usually come back to bite me because I cannot move other players.

                    I really hope multiple players can be put into motion; otherwise the option offense and endarounds are still crap.
                    Why do you need to put multiple players in motion to have success with the option or end arounds?
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                    • poliscilawguy
                      Rookie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 17

                      #25
                      Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                      Originally posted by JerseySuave4
                      they should have included a video of each play to go along with the playbook. This whole announcing a new play everyday would be better if we had video to see it in action and see what the game is looking like.
                      Being that we pick apart a video about dreadlocks and sunlight.

                      It would be marketing suicide to release a video every week.

                      Do you know how much negative publicity they would get from every time they posted a video of a this game before they have finished it?

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                      • MrHyde
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 138

                        #26
                        Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                        I'll be really upset if the shovel pass isn't in this years game.It happens in almost every game so it needs to be in,period.EA screws this up and I'll boycott this game.

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                        • Dr Death
                          Air Raid
                          • May 2009
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                          #27
                          Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                          Originally posted by MrHyde
                          I'll be really upset if the shovel pass isn't in this years game.It happens in almost every game so it needs to be in,period.EA screws this up and I'll boycott this game.
                          I've been advocating for the shovel pass for years, including sending videos to the EA team of exactly how this play is run. It always goes unnoticed and/or ignored. If it's in the game... LOL
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                          • KyGamerLT
                            Pro
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 572

                            #28
                            Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                            Hope the lbs stay with the back. that was used as a quick pass for years, very hard to stop.

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                            • Kaiser Wilhelm
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 2790

                              #29
                              Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                              Originally posted by Palo20
                              Why do you need to put multiple players in motion to have success with the option or end arounds?
                              The option playbook is heavily reliant on pre-play motion in order to snap. The problem with this is that I cannot make any pre-snap changes, meaning if I can see an obvious blitz I have one choice, audible.
                              The problem is, if I see an obvious mismatch and have a free TE on the other side , I should be able to motion him before I snap.

                              This still wouldn't fix what is in my opinion is the most overlooked playbook by the developers. The entire playbook revolves around motion, play action and the option as well as the option pass. As it stands the option pass, play action and putting men in motion are broken.

                              As for endarounds, it is the same issue. If the defense lines up more men on the side I am running two I have to either accept a loss or audible.

                              Now in that situation /i should be able to move my TE to the other side in order to pick up one of the linebackers and let my other fullback act as my lead blocker.
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                              • Palo20
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 3908

                                #30
                                Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #3: Shotgun Spread Flex Wk Y-Stick

                                Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
                                The option playbook is heavily reliant on pre-play motion in order to snap. The problem with this is that I cannot make any pre-snap changes, meaning if I can see an obvious blitz I have one choice, audible.
                                The problem is, if I see an obvious mismatch and have a free TE on the other side , I should be able to motion him before I snap.

                                This still wouldn't fix what is in my opinion is the most overlooked playbook by the developers. The entire playbook revolves around motion, play action and the option as well as the option pass. As it stands the option pass, play action and putting men in motion are broken.

                                As for endarounds, it is the same issue. If the defense lines up more men on the side I am running two I have to either accept a loss or audible.

                                Now in that situation /i should be able to move my TE to the other side in order to pick up one of the linebackers and let my other fullback act as my lead blocker.
                                I can see how that could adversely affect your Madden game, but I think the auto motion is very realistic. The only thing I would change is to add the ability to change the snap count on the auto motion. As it stands, it's easy to time the snap when facing Flexbone auto motion.

                                As for the realism, I mentioned above, motion is always determined in the huddle, not at the line of scrimmage in real football. It's always a part of the play call. The Qb does not come to the line and say, "we're running right, let me just motion an extra TE over there." It's all done in the huddle. If the QB feels he's in a "bad" play, then his only choice is to audible to a different play.

                                I think we've all grown accustomed to the Madden/NCAA way of picking any of 5 men to motion and making our decisions at the line of scrimmage. I have no problem with this, but if we're talking about true "sim" football, it doesn't happen that way.
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