25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

[Knight9299]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

Actually it's the TE but I agree he will never get there to set a good block.

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"Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep – Oregon State’s Weak I Normal Fly Sweep has the TE aligned on the line of scrimmage to the split end side of the formation. This creates an unbalanced set to the left with extra blockers for the fly sweep. "

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So unless EA is clueless about a formation they put in the game, then it's a tackle. If the backside tackle can pull and get out in front of a fly sweep, then it's no fly sweep, it's an end around. Which is fine. Oregon state might just call end arounds fly sweeps to sound cutting edge.

[Claymaker52]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

Actually it's the TE but I agree he will never get there to set a good block.

Won't you have the option of handing it off to the HB instead of the WR?

[germainoinsano]

I wish we could create the plays

[Solidice]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

Won't you have the option of handing it off to the HB instead of the WR?

probably not on the same play. there could be a linked play that hands it off to the HB instead. Ace - Big had a similar play like that in a few playbooks in NCAA 11, Houston and Oklahoma State were 2 that did.

[Kaiser Wilhelm]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

I wish we could create the plays

They did this one year. The problem with creating plays is that it would completly screw with the system because of how inorganic it is. By that I mean that the game cannot adjust, so adding in a new play that the AI is not scripted to understand would be an issue. (Atleast that is my take from playing the game.)

As for this play, I agree it is hopeless unless defenses bite on fakes. Also it would help if I could move a second defender pre snap so I can pick up the extra blocker like I do on any other play.

Another thing that would help is if we could just make every fake style handoff into an option style play. So if I call HB fake endaround, if I see that the defense is heavily lined up on the side my endaround is run to, I can decide to give the handoff. I'm not sure if plays work like this IRL but it seems plausible using the triple option for my reasoning.

[mikehud]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

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"Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep – Oregon State’s Weak I Normal Fly Sweep has the TE aligned on the line of scrimmage to the split end side of the formation. This creates an unbalanced set to the left with extra blockers for the fly sweep. "

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So unless EA is clueless about a formation they put in the game, then it's a tackle. If the backside tackle can pull and get out in front of a fly sweep, then it's no fly sweep, it's an end around. Which is fine. Oregon state might just call end arounds fly sweeps to sound cutting edge.

to me, it looks like whoever described the play did an bass-ackwards job of describing it. from the play art, the tackle could possibly make it over there to lead if, and only if, the play is slower developing with the HB running off tackle before the sweep action. i'm interested in seeing how this thing looks in actual gameplay.

[baufan2005]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

I have a feeling that this play will turn out like a lot of the play action plays and sweeps in the games do, the defense shoots straight through the line and hits your ballcarrier too quickly for you to do anything about it.

[SkillzKillz719]

I like the attention to Oregon State lol. Good to see.
Dunno if it'll work, but hey, we can at least wait and see this year. who knows

[scotty1011]

I just want custom playbooks, new plays are nice but whats the point if there are only limited to certain playbooks.

[SonOfEd]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

I just want custom playbooks, new plays are nice but whats the point if there are only limited to certain playbooks.

100% agree with both points here. Just not enough of these plays in '11 compared to how many teams actually utilized the Fly Sweep and Reverse plays.
As already mentioned, there should also be an option, or seperate play to give it to the HB for the dive, and a play action to compliment. Any team that runs this IRL will have these in their playbook.

[TyghtWork]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

good play, crappy formation, unless he is shifting (need some clarification EA). this should be run out of the slot so that the TE is already playside. the mesh point on a jet sweep happens as soon as the ball is snapped, so the TE will never get there, unless EA has messed the timing up, which knowing them they probly have. one more thing- even with the shift, the playside G or T should be pulling and the TE should be playside and blocking down on the end.

This post is 110% right.

[44drob]

Thats Nice !!!

[nighttrain32]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

This play looks like it has fail all over it. I can't see that tackle pulling fast enough.

I've played running back in an offense like this and the tight end won't be able to get there. If this was normal I, the fullback might not make it to a block before the receiver tried to turn upfield. My coach would have call this play a cluster fack because its not practical.

I'm not hating but this play has disaster written all over it in real life.

[Solidice]

Re: 25 New Plays Coming to NCAA Football 12 - Play #5: Weak I Normal Y Over Fly Sweep

I'm fairly certain that the TE will be lined up on the left side for that play. the blocking line is just there to show where he would normally be at in that formation. At least that is what I get from the description, "TE aligned on the line of scrimmage to the split end side of the formation. This creates an unbalanced set to the left with extra blockers for the fly sweep."

[Massive Meat]

new plays dont matter when the game is broken and basic football fundamentals, momentum, physics, and height and weight are ignored. players dont even know how to block.