Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

**econoodle** · 03-24-2011, 04:57 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

yikes
i preordered this the other day based on the new career mode, but you guys saved me 69.99.

I'll pass thanks to the caddy nonsense.
oy vey what a strange decision to cut out true aim.

I'll have to pass this info along to a couple of my friends who were thinking of getting it.

thanks guys for the impressions, it helped.

**The Bimmer** · 03-24-2011, 05:50 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

I know I probably wont make alot of friends by this comment about true aim, but...

Assuming we are all talking about tournament mode.... yes when you flick up on the left stick (ps3) it zooms out to the fairway and reveals everything you need know, same thing as TW11 and we can use the directional pad to aim where we want to hit it.

Now I agree when we flick down and zoom back to the tee there isnt the distance of the club we want to use just the %. Now if we disable the caddie from the beginning we are using the custom club, so all draws, fades and loft are set up here just as in TW11 granted in a different manner as we all have seen.

Now what puzzles me is why all the complants? How many times does a person have to use his 8 iron for example to know it carrys 152 yrds at 100%? This would be like going out on the golf course in real life and placing a little tag on every club with a note of how far you can hit it.

To be honest in TW11 it got to the point that after 300 rounds and hours of club tuning I never even noticed the club distances. I knew in an instant what club I was gonna use based on yardage. I just had to factor the wind and swung the club based on feel or %.

Yes, at first it will be more of a thinking game, but 2 months in I believe it will be routine.

**Flightwhite24** · 03-24-2011, 05:59 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by The Bimmer

I know I probably wont make alot of friends by this comment about true aim, but...

Assuming we are all talking about tournament mode.... yes when you flick up on the left stick (ps3) it zooms out to the fairway and reveals everything you need know, same thing as TW11 and we can use the directional pad to aim where we want to hit it.

Now I agree when we flick down and zoom back to the tee there isnt the distance of the club we want to use just the %. Now if we disable the caddie from the beginning we are using the custom club, so all draws, fades and loft are set up here just as in TW11 granted in a different manner as we all have seen.

Now what puzzles me is why all the complants? How many times does a person have to use his 8 iron for example to know it carrys 152 yrds at 100%? This would be like going out on the golf course in real life and placing a little tag on every club with a note of how far you can hit it.

To be honest in TW11 it got to the point that after 300 rounds and hours of club tuning I never even noticed the club distances. I knew in an instant what club I was gonna use based on yardage. I just had to factor the wind and swung the club based on feel or %.

Yes, at first it will be more of a thinking game, but 2 months in I believe it will be routine.

Pretty much how I feel at this point Bimmer. Hopefully all will be well come release.

**rangerrick012** · 03-24-2011, 08:02 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Well I'm getting it. For one I didn't get TW 11 and need a golf fix. And for 2, I didn't like the version of True Aim in the TW 11 demo, but do like True Aim in tournament mode in TW 12 demo. Though the caddy is an annoyance at times and do hope EA patches in the option to turn it off completely, it isn't nearly the game killer some of you guys are making it out to be. All things considered I'm ready for TW 12 and hoping it's a great experience.

I still think that even w/ the caddy it's still in the player's hands to hit the shots necessary. And I do find that I do better on my own than by using the caddy's suggestions, which somewhat puts to bed the notion that it's only a game of matching percentages now.

**RockyTop1** · 03-24-2011, 08:08 PM

$25 post purchase credit on Amazon just announced tonight. Very solid deal

**Rules** · 03-24-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally posted by RockyTop1

$25 post purchase credit on Amazon just announced tonight. Very solid deal

No brainer I'm keeping my TW12 preorder.

**misterkrabz** · 03-24-2011, 09:43 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Lieutenant Dan

All spot on...and I hope you're wrong about TrueAim being ruined too. That mode MADE TW11 a big step forward in videogame golf.

TrueAim/Tour Pro difficulty is a blast...and you DO learn from it for when you go out on the course for real.

According to a blog on EA's website True Aim is still in the game:

Q. Will 2012 feature True Aim and if so will it be available in online play?

A. True Aim is now built into the new “Tournament” difficulty and you can play online.

ref:

404 - Official EA Site

http://www.ea.com/tiger-woods/blog/facebook-qa

**Seymour Scagnetti** · 03-24-2011, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by misterkrabz

According to a blog on EA's website True Aim is still in the game:

Q. Will 2012 feature True Aim and if so will it be available in online play?

A. True Aim is now built into the new “Tournament” difficulty and you can play online.

ref:
http://www.ea.com/tiger-woods/blog/facebook-qa

You need to read the last couple of pages of this thread.

**misterkrabz** · 03-24-2011, 09:53 PM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Just read the impresions thread on EA"s forum...10 to 1 hate the caddie...hehe...classic EA. Now instead of admitting defeat, they'll spend next years deelopment cycles trying to "fix" it.

**ShivasIrons** · 03-25-2011, 04:06 AM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Seymour Scagnetti

You need to read the last couple of pages of this thread.

This is to the poster that Seymour's post quoted above was to.

Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

**The Bimmer** · 03-25-2011, 06:04 AM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by ShivasIrons

This is to the poster that Seymour's post quoted above was to.

Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

If you base this statement on the fact that you cannot see the distance of your clubs at the tee box, you are incorrect sir.

**DivotMaker** · 03-25-2011, 07:30 AM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by ShivasIrons

Yes, True Aim is gone. All EA has done is to make it a camera view (optional on some modes, just like the presentation or follow cams). True Aim has nothing to do with aiming in TW 12. So, their use of the term in TW 12 is deceiving or a misnomer to put it more kindly. To be more accurate, they should call it the "True View camera", as it no longer has anything to with aiming in a true manner, but rather is reduced to a "view" of one's shot.

Sorry, but I just played TW11 in TOUR Pro with TrueAim, then played Tournament mode in TW12 and I completely disagree. They are EXACTLY the same with the following exceptions:

1) TW11 gives you distance to the hole, TW12 does not. They both give you distances to the front and rear of the green as well as yardage markers in the fairway.

2) When aiming in Zoomed mode, TW11 does not change the aim at the tee where TW12 changing the aim in Zoom applies to the aim at the tee. TW12 does allow for the aim or "view" to change while zoomed whereas TW11 TrueAim does not, but you can still do the same thing in TW11, y backing out of Zoom, changing club type, then zoom in again to get the new aim or "view". It just takes longer in TW11, but you can do the exact same thing as 12 as far as this part of the game is concerned.

I would like to see them change the aim in 12 to where you can only adjust it from the ball position and not in Zoomed mode. Other than those two features, TrueAim is exactly the same as 11.

As for your last comment in BOLD, the same thing can be said of both 11 and 12.

**JayhawkerStL** · 03-25-2011, 08:27 AM

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I'm going to download and give the demo another chance in order to see if it really does have the TrueAim functionality I failed to see the first time I played it.

That's Divot getting the benefit of the doubt. But I am going to be really irritated if I cannot play without being given a line to the perfect shot and the % I need to hit the ball to do that. I was really shocked to see his support of the game this year, as it felt like the complete opposite of what he would want. He helped explain and sell me on TrueAim last year.

But I'm assuming I missed something if the guy that pimped TrueAim last year is really believing that the mode is still there. It's still a problem that my carrying distance is not given. Considering our player is constantly evolving, it is not a static number.

**ShivasIrons** · 03-25-2011, 08:27 AM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by The Bimmer

If you base this statement on the fact that you cannot see the distance of your clubs at the tee box, you are incorrect sir.

I have no idea what this statement is supposed to mean.

**DivotMaker** · 03-25-2011, 08:36 AM

Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 12: The Masters Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

Originally posted by Jayhawker

That's Divot getting the benefit of the doubt. But I am going to be really irritated if I cannot play without being given a line to the perfect shot and the % I need to hit the ball to do that. I was really shocked to see his support of the game this year, as it felt like the complete opposite of what he would want. He helped explain and sell me on TrueAim last year.

But I'm assuming I missed something if the guy that pimped TrueAim last year is really believing that the mode is still there. It's still a problem that my carrying distance is not given. Considering our player is constantly evolving, it is not a static number.

You are not given a line to the perfect shot in Tournament mode. TOUR Pro does have this along with the putting circle which is thankfully NOT in Tournament mode. I will fire up the demo to see if the shot lines are in TOUR Pro with TrueAim on.

True Aim IS in TW12 as my post above verifies this. There are some very minute differences, but the core functionality is the same as TW11, IMO.

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