NCAA Football 12 Announcement Sizzle Trailer

[DorianDonP]

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Downright BEAUTIFUL.

[stewart#28]

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Looks great so far!....I hope there can fix the background wall at Autzun should be solid Green "WTD"...and a helmet & letterman's jacket on the motorcycle driver if possible?
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[wrigleyville33]

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All of this pregame presentation is nice. But like others have said, after the 20th time, will you still let it play through? You guys are getting too hyped. I have a gut feeling that the in game presentation will be the same stale presentation. Hope I'm wrong though. Also, I'm not seeing this new tackling system.

[Cardot]

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EA knows how to put together a Sizzle trailer, that is for sure.

For those of us into the "Immersion" thing, this is looking incredible. I may bypass some cut-scenes in the middle of a game, but I always like a good intro.....helps set the mood. I can watch it over and over and over. And I admit to being shallow, and will likley select my team based upon the pregame....Colorado being in the driver's seat at the moment for that distinction.

[Dashdagreat]

Of course no doubt and unquestionably the graphics looks AMAZING as they always do. I seen some improved animations as far as how fluid they look... but the major issue i see STILL is lack of double hit tackling. Every tackle was a single man tackle. Thats a negative, but the presentation and graphics looks very VERY nice

[Phobia]

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That's the question I have about the whole consecutive hit tackling thing. If the technology allows the alternate defender to engage the tackle, then there should be an animation where he does so. Rather, he'll either run an animation where he pauses and then leaps over the tackle, stutters and backs off or attempt to engage but perform a weird roll off animation. So I'm lead to believe that they just can't do it with the tech both Madden and NCAA uses.

So now with the "all new tackling system" you have to ask yourself why the defender stutters there and holds off on engaging. It wouldn't have been a late hit. There was still time for him to help on the tackle. The highlights we saw in this video shows one on one type stuff, and that is a concern for those who are hoping that this will be the year they make the leap to multiple defenders in on a tackle.

I do know that what the main goal of this video was to highlight the school specific intros etc., so there's hope we may see something different in future specific videos that deal with tackling and other gameplay mechanics.

I completely agree Dave. The video looks fantastic and truly shows that the presentation is seeing a improvement. Plus the graphic improvements are jaw dropping, the 3D grass is BADASS!!! But I also have several issues with the video and direction of franchise.

1) No real time presentation like NBA 2k11. This is huge because after you play through 2 or 3 seasons, you have seen all the entrances many times and will skip through them to get to the meat and potatoes of the game....THE GAMEPLAY. So having pre-rendered entrances and such is nice, but real time camera work for presentation would of be HUGE in making every camera cut away draw you in that the action is happening on the field and not a standard cut scene.

2) Multiple hit tackles are a absolute must. It is by far one of the biggest "wants" by the consumers and I would believe would have been high on EA's to do list. So if they are not in, I highly suspect it is due to engine constraints. Lets all hope they can get them in, because it has been shown the old PS2 engine has multiple hit tackles.

3) Tackles......Tackles.....Tackles. I sure hope they have way more "wrap up" tackles. You see these big shoulder tackles but far more often in football are guys hitting square in the middle of the chest with the arms coming around to wrap up. Seeing defenders constantly go for these big shoulder hits just looks "gamey".

To wrap up my feelings is like this. I LOVE this video and the presentation looks great, the graphics look amazing, and the level of detail to so many areas is truly impressive. But at the end of the day I think the gameplay will be the #1 most important part of the game. The "jerseys" being right, correct entrances, #9 wearing wrong cleats, etc etc will all fade and will turn less important if the gameplay does not improve.

Important!!
1)So I hope the passing engine from both the offensive and defensive side of the ball improve greatly. No longer should defenders break on the ball when I press the pass button if they are running with their back to the QB. They should have to acquire the football by sight. The same should happen for the WR's, if you are forced to get rid of the ball early and the WR is still looking down field he should not break automatically because you pressed the button for the ball. This hurts immersion and gameplay.

2) Multiple hit tackles. This is KEY!!! Defenders should not do that akward falling animation and stutter step as Dave touched on. They should be able to come in and finish a ball carrier. It will help gameplay and specifically the run game. It is not a true game killer if it is not in, but will continue to make the series look substandard to its past PS2 iterations.

3) BLOCKING!!! We have to see a more natural flow to the blocking engine. I can't count how many times last night when I was playing how often the blocking just seems completely RANDOM. One moment my RT is completely man handling a DE all play brick walling him to the ground, then boom next play the DE turns into Reggie White and blows past my guy the instant the ball is snapped or another good example is when you are running the ball with your running back. I am scare to run towards my blockers because you know at any point the defenseman will beat your blocker. It is not "what happens" that is the issue it is "HOW it happens". The blocking engine just does not seem to have the correct weight and momentum flow to it. Defenders don't beat blockers by going around them, all blocking is almost a stand still block with very little side to side battling. Then out of no where the defender just beats the blocker with ZERO lateral movement. It just looks really wrong and not natural at all. I hope this is fixed to a degree, because last night I was getting so frustrated.

[pirates946]

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Looks great so far!....I hope there can fix the background wall at Autzun should be solid Green "WTD"...and a helmet & letterman's jacket on the motorcycle driver if possible?
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Man the very start of the video before anything was shown was my favorite part. You just hear that vroom vroom of the motorcycle and you are like it, it cant be, and then boom you see the oregon motorcycle. Im so ready for this game.

[DJACK]

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One thing I caught was different running styles. if you look at how the clemson rb is carrying the ball high and tight at 1:08 after he breaks the tackle, it is a different ball carry animation from the other rb's in the video.

Possibly we can choose different running styles? And I reaaaaally hope we have different passing animations to select like madden has had the last 2 years

[SageInfinite]

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I completely agree Dave. The video looks fantastic and truly shows that the presentation is seeing a improvement. Plus the graphic improvements are jaw dropping, the 3D grass is BADASS!!! But I also have several issues with the video and direction of franchise.

1) No real time presentation like NBA 2k11. This is huge because after you play through 2 or 3 seasons, you have seen all the entrances many times and will skip through them to get to the meat and potatoes of the game....THE GAMEPLAY. So having pre-rendered entrances and such is nice, but real time camera work for presentation would of be HUGE in making every camera cut away draw you in that the action is happening on the field and not a standard cut scene.

2) Multiple hit tackles are a absolute must. It is by far one of the biggest "wants" by the consumers and I would believe would have been high on EA's to do list. So if they are not in, I highly suspect it is due to engine constraints. Lets all hope they can get them in, because it has been shown the old PS2 engine has multiple hit tackles.

3) Tackles......Tackles.....Tackles. I sure hope they have way more "wrap up" tackles. You see these big shoulder tackles but far more often in football are guys hitting square in the middle of the chest with the arms coming around to wrap up. Seeing defenders constantly go for these big shoulder hits just looks "gamey".

To wrap up my feelings is like this. I LOVE this video and the presentation looks great, the graphics look amazing, and the level of detail to so many areas is truly impressive. But at the end of the day I think the gameplay will be the #1 most important part of the game. The "jerseys" being right, correct entrances, #9 wearing wrong cleats, etc etc will all fade and will turn less important if the gameplay does not improve.

Important!!
1)So I hope the passing engine from both the offensive and defensive side of the ball improve greatly. No longer should defenders break on the ball when I press the pass button if they are running with their back to the QB. They should have to acquire the football by sight. The same should happen for the WR's, if you are forced to get rid of the ball early and the WR is still looking down field he should not break automatically because you pressed the button for the ball. This hurts immersion and gameplay.

2) Multiple hit tackles. This is KEY!!! Defenders should not do that akward falling animation and stutter step as Dave touched on. They should be able to come in and finish a ball carrier. It will help gameplay and specifically the run game. It is not a true game killer if it is not in, but will continue to make the series look substandard to its past PS2 iterations.

3) BLOCKING!!! We have to see a more natural flow to the blocking engine. I can't count how many times last night when I was playing how often the blocking just seems completely RANDOM. One moment my RT is completely man handling a DE all play brick walling him to the ground, then boom next play the DE turns into Reggie White and blows past my guy the instant the ball is snapped or another good example is when you are running the ball with your running back. I am scare to run towards my blockers because you know at any point the defenseman will beat your blocker. It is not "what happens" that is the issue it is "HOW it happens". The blocking engine just does not seem to have the correct weight and momentum flow to it. I hope this is fixed to a degree, because last night I was getting so frustrated.

Great post.

[DaggerSwagger]

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I'm more of an NFL fan than college, but love coming here to see what you guys are talking about. Caught this image somewhere in the thread. Can't read through all 18 pages, but -- is that pic REAL or is that pic NCAA 12? I honestly can't tell.

it's a real pic because the ball isn't sooo big like in the game

[44drob]

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I was looking thru the shots and i Noticed new better looking addidas cleats ???

[inglip]

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I might be getting my hopes up here, but I really think consecutive or at least double hit tackling will be in this year, because I don't see how they can say that gameplay is their number one priority and not add it, especially considering it was already in a game that came out in 2004.

[Phobia]

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I might be getting my hopes up here, but I really think consecutive or at least double hit tackling will be in this year, because I don't see how they can say that gameplay is their number one priority and not add it, especially considering it was already in a game that came out in 2004.

Yea but one thing I learned when I went to EA is that just because they don't do something the "masses" want does not mean they didn't want to do it. It might be that it is just not possible with the current tech used.

[Mike Smoove]

ok but wheres the double hit tackles ?

[DaggerSwagger]

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Yea but one thing I learned when I went to EA is that just because they don't do something the "masses" want does not mean they didn't want to do it. It might be that it is just not possible with the current tech used.

i couldn't resist....