NCAA Football 12 - Pre-Order Nike Pro Combat Bonuses and Enhanced Tackling Engine

[Mr5000]

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and i keep seeing people say "i'm not a fan of Gamestop" or displaying dislike with Gamestop and i dont understand why? Is there a personal experience you had? Is it because they don't sell the game early? Is it because they are a big chain? I've bought many games and sold games to Gamestop and i've never once had an issue with them. Its not like they are selling games for more money than other stores. They are pretty accessible with many locations and if there isn't one around there is the option to order online. Maybe you dealt with a jerk employee but that speaks more to that employee (maybe he/she was having a bad day, is not a nice person) than the company itself. I'm just curious as to the hatred towards Gamestop. And that isn't directed at any one person, i'm just curious.

Jersey, I'm not a fan of paying 60 dollars for a product that Gamestop has already opened. It just doesn't sit right with me. But the manager is usually cool about it when I ask her for a sealed copy.

I know it seems like a small gripe, but I just don't like that. Other than that I don't have a problem with it.

And am I the only person who wishes they'd go back to the way they use to do preorders? Where they'd call you the day before the game was set to release and tell you to come and pick it up.

[splff3000]

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Jersey, I'm not a fan of paying 60 dollars for a product that Gamestop has already opened. It just doesn't sit right with me. But the manager is usually cool about it when I ask her for a sealed copy.

I know it seems like a small gripe, but I just don't like that. Other than that I don't have a problem with it.

And am I the only person who wishes they'd go back to the way they use to do preorders? Where they'd call you the day before the game was set to release and tell you to come and pick it up.

Yep, this is my only gripe with them. I've been told since I was a kid, once the plastic comes off, the game is used. That's also the way that 90% of stores across America work. Once that plastic comes off, the game is used and can't be returned. So why am I getting a NEW game with the plastic ripped off. Gamestop has already confessed to letting employees tryout games. So what's the difference between Joe Blow, the gamestop employee, ripping off the plastic and playing the game for a few hours and John Blow, the gamestop customer, going home, ripping off the plastic, playing for a few hours, then deciding to trade the game in? There's nothing different, but Gamestop will sell one as new and one as used. I actually went to buy my son a PS3 game one time and the "NEW" game had fingerprints on it. When I asked the sales clerk about it, he casually sprayed some kind of solution on the disc and wiped it off, then handed it back to me. So I casually asked for my money back and went down to Walmart and bought an actual NEW copy of the game that was sealed in plastic. I try my best to not give Gamestop my business for this very reason. Promotions like this tick me off because I'd like to have those jerseys, but I refuse to go through Gamestop to get them.

[TajDeni]

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Maybe some folks dont like gamestop because of their buy-back/resell ratio. It just feels cheap when you go to trade a good game in and they offer yo usay $14, then 30mins later they're re-selling it from $49.99. I know plenty of times ive walked in there only to just walk back out with the game, and just give it away to another person in the family.

also video game are they only product that i can think of where you can be completely unsatisfied with the product yet you cant as a consumer that the product back. 4ex if the game has a major bug that alot ppl deem unacceptable. Instead ppl have to sit around and wait for a patch to happen to a game that they deem unplayable. 1st, there is never a guarantee that the issue will even get patched at all (but they usually try to some degree) and if i does get patched it could be 2mos down the line.

Thats why i buy alot my games used and just pay the online fee. Dont like that fee but atleast its somewhat understandable; tho someone had to have already purchased the game new inorder for another person to buy it used. so in theory you could say that EA already got their money because they have no way to determine if a person will keep a game or not.

Also i think alot of ppl are talking about the principles of it because its just like if we let this slide, then where will it end. It is said that a person should treat small problems as big problems and big problems as small problems. So you fix the dam at the 1st signs of a crack when its still managable, not when the water is already flowing out; i wont insult anyones intelligence by breaking it down further than that

another thing is I personally dont understand the group of folks that are arguing for EA/GS. If ppl dont like said tactics let them voice there opinion and maybe things will get changed. Mostly likely not thru posting on a board. But if for example everyone who didnt like said practices didnt purchase the game for say a 2wks (thats about how long it takes for the rosters to come out) then these types of practices could possibly come to an end. At the end of the day ppl have to speak with their wallets in order to change these types of practices, but it wont happen because we as a society always have to have things asap. Seems, ADD just morphs as you transition from childhood to adulthood.

For me, i have never purchased a game from a M&P store (dont know of 1) so that part of it is not the issue for me, my only concern is if the game had a major glitch or bug that i deemed made the game broke and i had to sit 4 say 2mos waiting for it to get fixed.

a minor gripe would be that if you were put in a circumstance where gamestop was not a reasonable option 4 yourself and you had to purchse thru another vendor and now you had to pay for a perk that other got 4 free. I could see how that could annoy some ppl.

but all in all i think the folks who are ok will EA doing this should just fall-back and the ppl who dont approve should do more than just mere online-site complaining, if you really unhappy, only money talks...

[Mr5000]

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Yep, this is my only gripe with them. I've been told since I was a kid, once the plastic comes off, the game is used. That's also the way that 90% of stores across America work. Once that plastic comes off, the game is used and can't be returned. So why am I getting a NEW game with the plastic ripped off. Gamestop has already confessed to letting employees tryout games. So what's the difference between Joe Blow, the gamestop employee, ripping off the plastic and playing the game for a few hours and John Blow, the gamestop customer, going home, ripping off the plastic, playing for a few hours, then deciding to trade the game in? There's nothing different, but Gamestop will sell one as new and one as used. I actually went to buy my son a PS3 game one time and the "NEW" game had fingerprints on it. When I asked the sales clerk about it, he casually sprayed some kind of solution on the disc and wiped it off, then handed it back to me. So I casually asked for my money back and went down to Walmart and bought an actual NEW copy of the game that was sealed in plastic. I try my best to not give Gamestop my business for this very reason. Promotions like this tick me off because I'd like to have those jerseys, but I refuse to go to Gamestop to get them.

Exactly. Like I said the manager was cool about it the couple of times I asked for a sealed copy. But still, what I'd like to know is why are they opening them?

[LionsFanNJ]

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I don't think you will get the codes unless you actually buy (and pre-order, of course) the game from Gamestop. I could be wrong though.

Yeah more than likely it will be a card they attach on the top of the pre orders when its picked up. from GS's website

Online Customers: A code and download instructions will be provided to the customer when the game releases.

Store/In-Store Pickup Customers: A pre-order card containing a code and instructions on how to download the course will be available at time of game release.

So you will have to buy it from GS for the unis, and more than likely if you didn't EA is going to charge for them otherwise.

[pmurray20]

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I don't think you will get the codes unless you actually buy (and pre-order, of course) the game from Gamestop. I could be wrong though.

haha i did it for gears of war 3 and i got the beta codes lol

[JerseySuave4]

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Jersey, I'm not a fan of paying 60 dollars for a product that Gamestop has already opened. It just doesn't sit right with me. But the manager is usually cool about it when I ask her for a sealed copy.

I know it seems like a small gripe, but I just don't like that. Other than that I don't have a problem with it.

And am I the only person who wishes they'd go back to the way they use to do preorders? Where they'd call you the day before the game was set to release and tell you to come and pick it up.

ive never really noticed that the game isn't sealed. I mean, i'm sure i noticed when i bought the game and went to open it but when i first read this response i thought to myself, "don't they sell the games sealed up?" Especially after the other guy talked about buying a sealed game with no disc inside.

But now that i think about it anytime i've bought something with a preorder it wasn't sealed and they opened the case to make sure the code card was in there which in one way is, like you say, wrong that they are selling you an unsealed game but on the other hand does make sure you dont have the problem the other person had when he bought a sealed game with no disc inside.

I have no problem with them letting their workers play the games or something like that (just as long as it isn't one they are going to then sell to the customer) because when i worked at a restuarant i got to try the food (again not the food they were then going to give to customers), and other jobs you can test out the products. The same person who talked about buying a sealed game with no disc inside went on to say he was playing Mortal Kombat before it was released so it isn't like Wal Mart or Best Buy or these other places don't do the same things.

I do know ive bought games from Gamestop that were sealed but i do also remember sometimes the person selling me the game opening the case to make sure the game and preorder code was in there.

[poopoop]

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Also i think alot of ppl are talking about the principles of it because its just like if we let this slide, then where will it end. It is said that a person should treat small problems as big problems and big problems as small problems. So you fix the dam at the 1st signs of a crack when its still managable, not when the water is already flowing out; i wont insult anyones intelligence by breaking it down further than that

another thing is I personally dont understand the group of folks that are arguing for EA/GS. If ppl dont like said tactics let them voice there opinion and maybe things will get changed. Mostly likely not thru posting on a board. But if for example everyone who didnt like said practices didnt purchase the game for say a 2wks (thats about how long it takes for the rosters to come out) then these types of practices could possibly come to an end. At the end of the day ppl have to speak with their wallets in order to change these types of practices, but it wont happen because we as a society always have to have things asap. Seems, ADD just morphs as you transition from childhood to adulthood.

Exactly.

And I agree that money talks. If I end up buying the game there's a 0% chance that I preorder it from gamestop, or buy DLC for procombat uniforms if/when EA starts trying to sell it. It won't help though because I already know a ton of other people will.

If EA sees a bunch of people flock to gamestop and preorder it's only going to lead to them making more deals like this in the future. From microtransactions, to online pass, to hinting that they're going to start adding a subscription service (http://www.pastapadre.com/2011/04/22...iption-service) and backroom deals with gamestop it's just too much.

[Mr5000]

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ive never really noticed that the game isn't sealed. I mean, i'm sure i noticed when i bought the game and went to open it but when i first read this response i thought to myself, "don't they sell the games sealed up?" Especially after the other guy talked about buying a sealed game with no disc inside.

But now that i think about it anytime i've bought something with a preorder it wasn't sealed and they opened the case to make sure the code card was in there which in one way is, like you say, wrong that they are selling you an unsealed game but on the other hand does make sure you dont have the problem the other person had when he bought a sealed game with no disc inside.

I have no problem with them letting their workers play the games or something like that (just as long as it isn't one they are going to then sell to the customer) because when i worked at a restuarant i got to try the food (again not the food they were then going to give to customers), and other jobs you can test out the products. The same person who talked about buying a sealed game with no disc inside went on to say he was playing Mortal Kombat before it was released so it isn't like Wal Mart or Best Buy or these other places don't do the same things.

I do know ive bought games from Gamestop that were sealed but i do also remember sometimes the person selling me the game opening the case to make sure the game and preorder code was in there.

I'd be fine with it if they were opening it in front of me. Problem is, they don't. I've watched them take the game disc out of a drawer and put it into the game case. It's one thing if they're opening a sealed product in front of you. Then I could buy the "we're just checking to make sure the preorder code is in there" excuse. But when the game has been opened and they physically take the disc out and put it in a drawer? I'm sorry I'm not down with that.

[JerseySuave4]

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I'd be fine with it if they were opening it in front of me. Problem is, they don't. I've watched them take the game disc out of a drawer and put it into the game case. It's one thing if they're opening a sealed product in front of you. Then I could buy the "we're just checking to make sure the preorder code is in there" excuse. But when the game has been opened and they physically take the disc out and put it in a drawer? I'm sorry I'm not down with that.

you're right that happened to me once now that i think about it although the guy had said they were all out until he looked in the drawer, found a disc and put it in an empty case. I guess it never really bothered me as long as the game works ok. But to each their own and if its something that bothers you then theres nothing wrong with that either.

[kodawg9]

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"NCAA Football 12 takes the journey of the college athlete to the next level of depth and authenticity. Experience the pride and pageantry of gameday Saturday like never before as you go from high school superstar to top college player to head coach in Road to Glory and Dynasty modes."

This is what I'm focused on. I don't care about some unis. Just give me coaching carousel