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  • OSUFan_88
    Outback Jesus
    • Jul 2004
    • 25642

    #76
    Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

    Is anyone going to give a legit answer to the "Why is Hillis considered pedestrian?" Question?

    Or is 1600 total yards and 13 TD's not good enough for some people? Especially considering he had one of the worst passing games in the NFL on his team too.
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    Urban Meyer is lol.

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    • kingkilla56
      Hall Of Fame
      • Jun 2009
      • 19395

      #77
      Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

      I still dont understand why it's illegal. From a legal standpoint. If EA doesnt honor the results of the "contest" who will sue? Nobody is exactly losing money here except maybe the contestants? I dont get it. (not very familiar with this side of the law in all honesty)
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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #78
        Originally posted by 31
        Why is it dumb? Its how EA wanted it. To let the fans choose. Its brilliant marketing actually. And I really don't think Hillis is stupid.
        LoL.

        I just didn't like the fact that someone without "star" power will be on the cover.

        For the record - I didn't partake in the voting, and I don't really care who's on the cover.

        Also, I didnt say Hillis isn't a good player. He just doesn't have that star power, yet. Maybe this will help make him a household name.
        Last edited by Brandwin; 04-24-2011, 10:49 PM.

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        • kehlis
          Moderator
          • Jul 2008
          • 27738

          #79
          Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
          Is anyone going to give a legit answer to the "Why is Hillis considered pedestrian?" Question?
          No, those making the claim don't follow football enough to know why what they are saying is false.

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          • kingkilla56
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jun 2009
            • 19395

            #80
            Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

            Hillis isnt a pedestrian player but he isnt top echelon out here. And dont get mad at Hillis people...you voted him this far (or the crazed browns/arkansas fans did). If EA went with Hillis on their own accord, I would say he Vince Young'd himself onto the cover...but thats not the case.

            EA messed this one up. The player representatives from many teams were questionable...just look at the two final teams...
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            • OSUFan_88
              Outback Jesus
              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #81
              Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

              The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season.

              His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.
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              Urban Meyer is lol.

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              • kehlis
                Moderator
                • Jul 2008
                • 27738

                #82
                Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                Hillis isnt a pedestrian player but he isnt top echelon out here. And dont get mad at Hillis people...you voted him this far (or the crazed browns/arkansas fans did). If EA went with Hillis on their own accord, I would say he Vince Young'd himself onto the cover...but thats not the case.

                EA messed this one up. The player representatives from many teams were questionable...just look at the two final teams...
                This is a very arbitrary statement.

                Maybe not to you. What makes a player top echelon?

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                • kingkilla56
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 19395

                  #83
                  Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                  Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                  The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season.

                  His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.
                  I disagree. His stats dont support him being elite.
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                  • mestevo
                    Gooney Goo Goo
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19556

                    #84
                    Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                    Originally posted by kingkilla56
                    I still dont understand why it's illegal. From a legal standpoint. If EA doesnt honor the results of the "contest" who will sue? Nobody is exactly losing money here except maybe the contestants? I dont get it. (not very familiar with this side of the law in all honesty)
                    State law related to contests are not typically a simple affair. As a result that's why your routinely see states or Canadian provinces excluded in the terms. In the case of this one "Residents of Florida, New York and Quebec are not eligible". Florida I think has a process where the state has to vet and approve the contest... a process few companies/contests bother to take the time to do so instead those residents are excluded.

                    Adembroski confirmed it would not be legal for them to change the results of the bracket contest... that doesn't mean they couldn't turn around and put Vick on the 360 and Hillis on the PS3 cover or something (or make all of the participants' covers available for download if licensed appropriately).

                    From a feature and promotional standpoint, I could make a pretty good case that Hillis and the Browns would make good poster children for franchise mode. Superstar mode too.

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                    • JerseySuave4
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 5152

                      #85
                      Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                      Originally posted by shigogouhou
                      Good for Hillis, but I feel bad for him. Unlike all the other cover athletes, he's going to be surrounded by questions; "Did he win just because Cleveland stuffed the ballot? Did he win because EA doctored it to keep Vick from repeating as cover boy? Did he win because supporters of the ones EA would've chosen all stuffed the ballots against to prevent the Curse from striking their team?"
                      these questions won't be asked because its the cover. Seriously, the cover of a video game. This is not a big deal. The only question people should be asking is whether or not this guy is a 1 year wonder or will he have long term success.

                      Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                      The only reason Hillis isn't considered elite is because he played on a team that sucked and had no QB until the end of the season.

                      His stats and ability are more than enough to be considered elite.
                      slow down before you call him elite. The guy has had 1 good year. He was 11th in rushing yards, tied 6th for tds, but also led the league in fumbles so his stats aren't really enough to consider him elite.
                      Last edited by JerseySuave4; 04-24-2011, 11:06 PM.

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                      • kingkilla56
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 19395

                        #86
                        Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                        Originally posted by kehlis
                        This is a very arbitrary statement.

                        Maybe not to you. What makes a player top echelon?
                        Well, disregarding team specific handicaps or advantages,
                        having 10 players ahead of you in rushing in the league,
                        10 players (with a min 1,000yrds) with a higher YPC than you,
                        20 players with more 20+ yard rushes than you,
                        Having a season long of 48 yrds,
                        Having 8 players with the same or more tds than you,
                        14 players with a higher ypg than you (73.6),
                        lead the league in fumbles,
                        10 players with more 1st down runs,

                        doesnt make elite in my book. You gotta be top 5 in something other than fumbles. Maybe its just me
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                        • PVarck31
                          Moderator
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 16869

                          #87
                          Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                          I don't think he is elite (yet), but I certainly don't think he is pedestrian.

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                          • kingkilla56
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 19395

                            #88
                            Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                            Originally posted by mestevo
                            State law related to contests are not typically a simple affair. As a result that's why your routinely see states or Canadian provinces excluded in the terms. In the case of this one "Residents of Florida, New York and Quebec are not eligible". Florida I think has a process where the state has to vet and approve the contest... a process few companies/contests bother to take the time to do so instead those residents are excluded.

                            Adembroski confirmed it would not be legal for them to change the results of the bracket contest... that doesn't mean they couldn't turn around and put Vick on the 360 and Hillis on the PS3 cover or something (or make all of the participants' covers available for download if licensed appropriately).

                            From a feature and promotional standpoint, I could make a pretty good case that Hillis and the Browns would make good poster children for franchise mode. Superstar mode too.
                            Thanks for the detailed response. It makes a little more sense now.
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                            • Dog
                              aka jnes12/JNes__
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 11846

                              #89
                              Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                              Eagles | Phillies | Sixers | Flyers
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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #90
                                Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                                Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                                EA blew this and they know it. Sorry but Peyton Hillis is not a house hold name. Cover players are usually establish stars and not one big year.

                                EA should have had Cribbs from Cleveland who is a known pro bowl player

                                Having Vick would suck because he is a POS but having Hillis is putting an unknown to the average football fan who is going to say WHO?
                                I disagree it will dent their sales big time. Most people don't buy who's on the cover, but what's inside the cover.

                                I don't know why people feel that cover athletes have this huge impact on sales.

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