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  • jeremym480
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    • Oct 2008
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    #151
    Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

    I don't remember all this uproar when VY was on the cover and that guy is the definition of average.
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    • djordan
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      • Nov 2005
      • 3052

      #152
      Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

      Originally posted by jeremym480
      I don't remember all this uproar when VY was on the cover and that guy is the definition of average.
      Vince Young was well known to the average person. Peyton Hillis isn't.
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      • bichettehappens
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        • Jun 2010
        • 2547

        #153
        Originally posted by djordan
        Vince Young was well known to the average person. Peyton Hillis isn't.
        To the average person? I don't feel like he was... Wasn't he on the cover after half a breakout year? If you asked a random civilian "who is this" I bet they would not have been able to tell you. Average football fan knew VY though, and they should know Hillis.

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        • bichettehappens
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          • Jun 2010
          • 2547

          #154
          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          Where are the, Peyton Hillis is Elite folks with a response to his numbers???
          Flawless Victory?
          Well to be fair, didn't he start the season splitting carries with Harrison? I believe he had single digit carries at least the first 2 games. Plus as the other guy mentioned teams were able to focus solely on stopping him, as well as Cleveland playing from behind often. I don't feel the guy is elite at this point but those numbers don't tell the whole story

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          • kingkilla56
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            • Jun 2009
            • 19395

            #155
            Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

            Originally posted by OSUFan_88
            You disregarded the entire reason why Peyton Hillis is a great player: He played with no passing game.

            No matter. I'm pretty sure I'm the only one who claimed that Hillis was elite, just to offset the misinformed that said he was pedestrian.
            I agree with Hillis being exceptional. No way he is pedestrian. And a lack of a significant pass game is a factor that boosts his perception. And I would take him over bum Jacobs every time.

            The Browns team passing between Wallace, Delhomme and McCoy yielded:

            3142 yards, not too bad. but still at the bottom.
            62.2 completion percentage average between them...not bad.
            The 12 TD to 18 INT ratio needs work.

            2010 Browns were 20th in rushing led by Hillis and 28th in passing
            2009 Browns were 8th in rushing led by Harrison and 32nd in passing (2,000 yrds total for the year).

            The no passing game may actually not hold up after all.
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            • Cre8
              Banned
              • Jan 2011
              • 1587

              #156
              Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

              I think the Browns 'lack of a passing game' comes from the fact that they rarely go vertical in the passing game. This will be much the same even with AJ Green or Julio Jones (assuming they go that direction) since the rumors have Shurmur being a WCO guy.

              Not to mention, Colt McCoy has a slight noodle arm that isn't ideal for a deep-threat passing game. Just one that involves accurate short passes to set up Peyton Hillis and Montario Hardesty.

              IMHO, of course.

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              • kirby314
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                • Apr 2011
                • 10

                #157
                Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                Originally posted by bichettehappens
                Who?

                Come on man, only person on that list even remotely in the same tier as Hillis would be Ahmad Bradshaw
                what? Jamaal charles is a top 5 RB now he is better than peyton hillis 10x. last year JC started week 8 still got a 1000 yards an would've broke AP rushing in a game record against Denver if Todd haley hadn't pulled him out. And this year was second in rushing in the NFL with only 230 attempts he spilts carries with thomas jones. and AVG. 6.4 yds a carry few more inches and he would have broke jim browns record. and he carried the chiefs offense on his back to the playoffs. peyton hillis is better than who?

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                • Giants4Natic
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                  • Oct 2010
                  • 2475

                  #158
                  Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                  Originally posted by The GIGGAS
                  Perennial stars, just like Daunte Culpepper and Vince Young.
                  Culpepper had a few very good years and in the mix for mvp. Also VY had star appeal coming from college and was a high draft pick who won rookie of the year

                  Sorry but Hillis had one good year last year on a crap team.

                  Not saying he can't be a good player for a while but to me Madden usually puts a player of relevance or that his high appeal

                  Hillis is not known by the casual gamer. And in terms of marketing is a dumb idea but Madden will sell because Madden is a very popular game.

                  You could put the 12th man flag for the Seahawks and it will sell.

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                  • roadman
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                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #159
                    Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                    Originally posted by Giants4Natic
                    Culpepper had a few very good years and in the mix for mvp. Also VY had star appeal coming from college and was a high draft pick who won rookie of the year

                    Sorry but Hillis had one good year last year on a crap team.

                    Not saying he can't be a good player for a while but to me Madden usually puts a player of relevance or that his high appeal

                    Hillis is not known by the casual gamer. And in terms of marketing is a dumb idea but Madden will sell because Madden is a very popular game.

                    You could put the 12th man flag for the Seahawks and it will sell.
                    So, if the game is still going to sell, why do you say it's a dumb marketing idea. Hillis popularity will soar if he wins.

                    Still, there is no proof that a cover athlete sells the cover, it's what is inside the cover that sells the game.

                    Things change and people resist change.

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                    • LiquorLogic
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 712

                      #160
                      Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                      No disrespect to Hillis, but it's sort of laughable for him to be on the cover when looking and some of the current stars who have yet to grace the cover. Let's see: there's Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, LT, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rogers, and many other household names that haven't been on the cover.

                      Honestly, Peyton Hillis being in the running for the cover seem like a prank to me.

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                      • bichettehappens
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2010
                        • 2547

                        #161
                        Originally posted by LiquorLogic
                        No disrespect to Hillis, but it's sort of laughable for him to be on the cover when looking and some of the current stars who have yet to grace the cover. Let's see: there's Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, LT, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rogers, and many other household names that haven't been on the cover.

                        Honestly, Peyton Hillis being in the running for the cover seem like a prank to me.
                        If people wanted to see them on the cover, wouldn't they have voted for them though?

                        Hillis went head-to-head against Aaron Rodgers and crushed him 61% to 39%

                        For him to make it this far shows that the "nobody knows who he is" notion is likely false.

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                        • roadman
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #162
                          Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                          Originally posted by LiquorLogic
                          No disrespect to Hillis, but it's sort of laughable for him to be on the cover when looking and some of the current stars who have yet to grace the cover. Let's see: there's Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, LT, Adrian Peterson, Aaron Rogers, and many other household names that haven't been on the cover.

                          Honestly, Peyton Hillis being in the running for the cover seem like a prank to me.
                          Two words, Brett Favre.

                          He wasn't on till 2yrs before he retired, EA's 20th season.

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                          • ABR173rd
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                            • Aug 2009
                            • 1523

                            #163
                            Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                            Originally posted by bichettehappens
                            If people wanted to see them on the cover, wouldn't they have voted for them though?

                            Hillis went head-to-head against Aaron Rodgers and crushed him 61% to 39%

                            For him to make it this far shows that the "nobody knows who he is" notion is likely false.

                            Well, EA controlled the actual player pool and their seeding, I think Peyton Hillis is going to win because he had a good year and he's not a guy most non browns fans like or dislike. Versus some of the other players who talent wise should be on the cover but are not favorites of the fans.

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                            • coogrfan
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #164
                              Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                              Originally posted by bichettehappens
                              If people wanted to see them on the cover, wouldn't they have voted for them though?

                              Hillis went head-to-head against Aaron Rodgers and crushed him 61% to 39%

                              For him to make it this far shows that the "nobody knows who he is" notion is likely false.
                              That, or there are a lot of folks in Cleveland, OH who have (1) an internet connection and (2) a fair amount of time on their hands.
                              Last edited by coogrfan; 04-25-2011, 04:04 PM.

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                              • Dirty Turtles
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                                • Feb 2010
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                                #165
                                Re: Hillis Ahead of Vick For Madden NFL 12 Cover

                                GO HILLIS!
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