Madden NFL 12 Videos - Gameplay From ESPN First Take

[K_GUN]

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not impressed with it

their animations just seem to lack frames....making them look *quick*..sometimes herky/jerky....maybe it was the game speed setting, i don;t know.

i want to see long-drawn out animations

[BezO]

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Not to open up this can of worms again, but that wasn't a "consecutive hit" tackle. Just a two man gang tackle.

I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, that was nothing we haven't seen before.

[Only1LT]

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not impressed with it

their animations just seem to lack frames....making them look *quick*..sometimes herky/jerky....maybe it was the game speed setting, i don;t know.

i want to see long-drawn out animations

I agree with this and I don't think it's the speed setting. Their animations are just plain odd. They don't resemble human motion much at all. It's like they are pop locking or something.

Definitely missing frames in the animations and the transitions happen in the blink of an eye.

This is partly a design choice I think though. They know that people love Madden for it's unrealistic movement. If they were to make long drawn out animations and people didn't have pinpoint stop on a dime control, there would probably be outrage.

The other part is their tech. I'm sorry, but it's some of the worst animation tech out there. I never understand how this is possible when I know for a fact that they spend tons more money than every other studio does on animation.

It makes no sense.

[SageInfinite]

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not impressed with it

their animations just seem to lack frames....making them look *quick*..sometimes herky/jerky....maybe it was the game speed setting, i don;t know.

i want to see long-drawn out animations

I feel the exact same way. Their animations pop in and out too quickly. That's why they look so awkward. The need to be long so they connect back the running animations properly.

[TreFacTor]

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Looks like M11... I can't see anything from watching it over and over that is different (with the exception of the entrance and the celebration that Vick does after getting tackled). Maybe I'm just simply refusing to fall for the hype and have lost any optimism with regard to drastic improvements to this franchise.

[spankdatazz22]

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I agree with this and I don't think it's the speed setting. Their animations are just plain odd. They don't resemble human motion much at all. It's like they are pop locking or something.

They're trying to clean it up, but at it's core it still has too much next-gen [Tiburon movement] DNA. The skating was really bad in the earlier Madden/NCAAs, and the players still aren't tethered to the ground enough. The two catch animations were both poor/bad. It's like the game is trying to select a cool animation to render and the game seems to pause slightly, instead of having it occur naturally/fluidly. Player post-play movement looks a little better but you can still see players looking hunchbacked/walking robotically in the background of the few plays that were shown. Graphics are good. Will be interesting to see full gameplay video, but likely won't see that for a while

[brza37]

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. Then I tried to see if they had Vick's throwing motion right. Couldn't tell on either of the two throws.

Vick's throwing motion is spot on. That was the first thing I noticed from that clip.

[ViLLiO]

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Looks terrible, but of course that's just my opinion. Reminds me a lot of Madden 11, which I played for a total of five minutes. But sure I'll waste some more space on my PS3 HDD again this year to see if it'll be worth picking up.

The thing I absolutely must do is enter this with extremely low expectations. Maybe then it won't be a total flop. What was the sales drop last year, again? 18%? I am very curious as to what changes they've made in Madden 12.

[ch46647]

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Unfortunately, it looks very much the same to me as well. I truly believe that EA simply cannot do anymore with the games current engine, or series of engines Ian said it has.

I think EA is just going to ride out the rest of this generation of consoles on the fact that they hold the exclusive license. Hopefully they atleast learn their lesson and dont push out a terrible engine when the new system of consoles eventually comes out. Sadly, I think that we just have to concede the fact that this is just a lost generation of gaming for football fans.

My .02

[Thinking Out Loud]

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What little bit I saw, I liked. Liked the intro presentation and the co-op tackle.

Not to open up this can of worms again, but that wasn't a "consecutive hit" tackle. Just a two man gang tackle.

I didn't want to say anything, but yeah, that was nothing we haven't seen before.

OnlyLt and Bezo, are you guys sure you have seen that type of co-op tackle in Madden 11? I am asking because I can not honestly recall ever seeing a co-op tackle like that in Madden 11 and tackling is one of my biggest issues with that game. I agree with OnlyLT that it's a protak tackle but going back and looking at this versuz youtube video, it seems slightly modified from last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kivw9wVfD1E

Doesn't seem like the "suction" is occurring to halt the ball carriers forward momentum. Could just be happening on this specific protak tackle or could be because of the new collision system. Guess we will know more Thursday.

[jWILL253]

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I don't think that was M12. That looked just like 11 to me...

[sportsfanatic1]

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at the end vick does the hillis touchdown celebration do the cover athlete do the motion capture

[PVarck31]

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Still a little herky jerky. But does show some improvement. I was waiting for the DB to morph in front of the ball or the WR to morph further to get it, but it didn't happen. Tackle looked good too. Wasn't a true consecutive hit tackle but didn't notice any suction.

[Thinking Out Loud]

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I don't think that was M12. That looked just like 11 to me...

It would be brutal if a Madden dev says the intro was from Madden 12 but the gameplay is Madden 11.

Sure would make my earlier post sound mighty silly. LOL!

[Only1LT]

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What little bit I saw, I liked. Liked the intro presentation and the co-op tackle.



OnlyLt and Bezo, are you guys sure you have seen that type of co-op tackle in Madden 11? I am asking because I can not honestly recall ever seeing a co-op tackle like that in Madden 11 and tackling is one of my biggest issues with that game. I agree with OnlyLT that it's a protak tackle but going back and looking at this versuz youtube video, it seems slightly modified from last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kivw9wVfD1E

Doesn't seem like the "suction" is occurring to halt the ball carriers forward momentum. Could just be happening on this specific protak tackle or could be because of the new collision system. Guess we will know more Thursday.

I've seen that "type" of tackle before on Madden 10. It was nothing new, but that wasn't really my point. My only point was that it wasn't a "consecutive hit" tackle. The defenders both latched onto the ball carrier at the same time. That was a typical Pro-tak type 2man gang hu... I mean tackle lol.

A "consecutive hit tackle would be one after the other where you see the effect that both hits or wrap up, or what ever, has on the runner. There is little doubt in my mind that if a 3rd defender were foolish enough to try and add on to that tackle that he would have been dropped like a $3 bill.

Whether there was any suction on that or not, I can't tell. Maybe there wasn't. Like I said, my point wasn't really that I have seen that particular tackle, or play previously, although I'm pretty sure I have. My point was simply that whether that was a new tackle scenario or an old one, it wasn't a "consecutive hit" tackle. That's all.