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  • Molarmite
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    • Mar 2009
    • 1869

    #1

    Madden NFL 12 Gameplay Q&A (ESPN The Gamer)


    Jon Robinson of ESPN The Gamer has interviewed Madden NFL 12 Producers Phil Frazier and Mike Scantlebury to get a feel for what fans should be looking for in the gameplay department come August 30.

    "The biggest difference gamers will notice right away, however, is the increased violence of every hit. With the old Pro-Tak tackling system, the game turned into gang tackles where groups of players ended up huddled together pushing a pile one way or another. But now that the new tackling system has more to do with momentum and point of impact, instead of watching a pile moving in boring fashion, now one defender might grab the ball carrier while the second defender charges in and cleans the pile out."

    Source- Madden NFL 12 Gameplay Q&A
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  • Exonerated
    MVP
    • Dec 2007
    • 4899

    #2
    Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

    sick.

    this game is gonna be off the hook lol.

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    • Hooe
      Hall Of Fame
      • Aug 2002
      • 21555

      #3
      Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

      Phil Frazier: You can have up to 400 plays and up to 75 individual sets in your custom playbook. You can also have up to eight custom playbooks saved. And with 400 plays, I don't think our fans and our community are going to have any problem filling out a playbook.

      Mike Scantlebury: We added a new pump fake mechanic where you can actually pump fake towards a specific receiver. We think this is something the hardcore will utilize as it really ups the value of our double moves. Now you actually have a reason to call some of these double move routes like the post corner because when you pump fake towards a specific receiver, the defensive back is more likely to bite.

      Phil Frazier: The way it worked before was more of a generic pump fake, but now you can actually direct where you're faking to throw the ball. So now you can pump fake one direction, then throw the ball to the other side of the field.

      Another thing we added this year is the ability to adjust the shading of your defensive backs on receivers. Now you can play press on an individual receiver on a play as opposed to playing press on everybody. You can also have a defender shade inside or outside of the receiver depending on whether you press shade left or shade right. Or you can just back one guy off and give him extra space. We give you a lot of options, and while some of these might sound like small features, with our goal to be true to the game and true to the NFL, we want to make sure we're giving our "Madden" fans ultra-fine control over our defense this year. It has been a while since some of these features have been in our game and we're glad to finally have them back.
      This is my happy face.

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      • J-Unit40
        Boom!!
        • Sep 2005
        • 8261

        #4
        Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

        And Madden comes back onto my radar again.

        Looking very good this year EA. NCAA 12 and now Madden 12 too!
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        • carnalnirvana
          Pro
          • Jan 2007
          • 1981

          #5
          Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

          i am hoping an praying the cpu can benefit fram these changes, lets give them custom playbooks or let them actually pump fake....

          i wish they would see things this way the AI needs these options too
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          • Jd_Seven
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            • Aug 2005
            • 481

            #6
            Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

            lets see if this new tackling system works correctly, sounds impressive. How great does it look during gameplay?
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            • jmurphy31
              MVP
              • Jun 2008
              • 2803

              #7
              Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

              Glad to see defensive shading is in. I also thought Mike's answer about why it took so long to get zone coverage correct was funny.

              One question though. Is pro-tak gone or modified?

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              • die2cry
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                • Jul 2010
                • 75

                #8
                Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

                wow sounds amazing!!!! cant wait to see some videos......
                its in the game!

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                • ch46647
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                  • Aug 2006
                  • 3515

                  #9
                  Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

                  "Pro-Tak is OUT, point of contact tacking is in"

                  This is music to my ears as I never liked the pro-tak tackling system! However, it is just amazing how the #1 feature put into the game two years ago is already scrapped. This is why Madden is where it is today. It seems like nothing is really implemented correctly or built on after it is put in the game.

                  I am also thrilled that they added WR shading and press back in the game. Hopefully they added a TON of animations for WR/DB interaction as well. This is much needed.

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                  • jmurphy31
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                    • Jun 2008
                    • 2803

                    #10
                    Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

                    Originally posted by ch46647
                    "Pro-Tak is OUT, point of contact tacking is in"

                    This is music to my ears as I never liked the pro-tak tackling system! However, it is just amazing how the #1 feature put into the game two years ago is already scrapped. This is why Madden is where it is today. It seems like nothing is really implemented correctly or built on after it is put in the game.

                    I am also thrilled that they added WR shading and press back in the game. Hopefully they added a TON of animations for WR/DB interaction as well. This is much needed.
                    I never understand why EA does this all the time (I can see it happening every now and then, but it seems like every big feature gets removed a year or two later). I am wondering with custom playbooks in will game planning still be in the game or will it to be removed

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                    • RGiles36
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                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3960

                      #11
                      Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

                      Originally posted by ch46647
                      This is music to my ears as I never liked the pro-tak tackling system! However, it is just amazing how the #1 feature put into the game two years ago is already scrapped. This is why Madden is where it is today. It seems like nothing is really implemented correctly or built on after it is put in the game.
                      I have to agree.

                      Like I said a few wks ago, M10 was a solid football game and turned the franchise around. But I think they tried to accomplish a lot without re-inventing the wheel. They tried to improve tackling and blocking with existing code, and I think they've arrived at the conclusion that they can not.

                      So they're going back and re-building the game, piece by piece.
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                      • ch46647
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                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3515

                        #12
                        Re: Madden 12 gameplay adds new tackling system, smarter defense (ESPN)

                        Originally posted by rgiles36
                        I have to agree.

                        Like I said a few wks ago, M10 was a solid football game and turned the franchise around. But I think they tried to accomplish a lot without re-inventing the wheel. They tried to improve tackling and blocking with existing code, and I think they've arrived at the conclusion that they can not.

                        So they're going back and re-building the game, piece by piece.
                        You are probably correct about this and Adembroski tried to tell us this several times without actually saying it. Unfortunately, with this new approach it will probably still be 2-3 years before gameplay is where it needs to be.

                        They still need to fix:

                        1. ANIMATION overhaul. The animations still look choppy and disjointed.
                        2. Passing game- More realistic velocity of passes, more ability to put a touch and arc on the pass, route based passing, etc..
                        3. Locomotion and foot planting- This may still be Maddens biggest area in need of improvement. They need to put FIFA's entire locomotion AND foot pinning technology in.
                        4.More realistic AI and ADAPTIVE AI. They made a big deal about this in Madden 10 and never said a word about it since.
                        5. Realistic DL play and DE's running actual arcs when pass rushing.
                        6. WR/DB interaction- They need to add a ton of realistic looking animationd in this department.
                        7. Realistic QB movement- No more QB's sprinting around and turning their back to the play to turn around and sprint. Make it like APF2k8.
                        8. PLAYER SPECIFIC animations based on ratings. The 2k team has always been great with this and it makes every player look and feel different.
                        9. Overall ratings in the game need to matter more. Speed is the only real rating that seems to consistantly work.

                        If they could get these gameplay fixes into the game we may actually be onto something..

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                        • PSRusse83
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                          • Mar 2011
                          • 138

                          #13
                          I kind of hope all tackles arent just going to be collision and done. I mean sometimes there is a pile that is rubbing up against each other I think Pro Tak type things should happen every now and then

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                          • PSRusse83
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                            • Mar 2011
                            • 138

                            #14
                            Mike Scantlebury: Instead of having tackles where guys are stood up and other defenders are adding on just for the sake of the gang tackle, now we have a much stronger, much more powerful impact that knocks the ball carrier down almost immediately.

                            This is what im talking about. Thats not exactly a great thing.

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                            • paptester
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                              • Aug 2009
                              • 41

                              #15
                              Its crazy how they finally adding back shading and individual press or back off for defensive backs. I mean they had these features back in the PS2 days and now they finally adding this in. That's 1 of the big problems i had with madden over the years. To me madden hasnt been the same since the PS2 days. Best madden is with

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