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  • RaychelSnr
    Executive Editor
    • Jan 2007
    • 4845

    #1

    Dynasty League Baseball Update



    Last fall, I provided an overview of Dynasty League Baseball Online, a browser-based baseball simulation. Since then, the game has seen the addition of some new features; the biggest is a league mode featuring some of the greatest teams of all time.

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  • PatriotJames
    Banned
    • Nov 2009
    • 1204

    #2
    So you're saying OOTP is less sim than this? I find that hard to believe...

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    • ChaseB
      #BringBackFaceuary
      • Oct 2003
      • 9844

      #3
      Originally posted by PatriotJames
      So you're saying OOTP is less sim than this? I find that hard to believe...
      ? OOTP isn't browser based.
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      • Sportsforever
        NL MVP
        • Mar 2005
        • 20368

        #4
        Re: Dynasty League Baseball Update

        Originally posted by PatriotJames
        So you're saying OOTP is less sim than this? I find that hard to believe...
        First off, comparing OOTP to this genre of game is like comparing apples & oranges. Secondly, having played both, yes, this game is more "sim" than OOTP. By "sim" I mean player abilities and statistics are more accurately represented. Everyone will have their own definition of sim, however.
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        • choadler
          MVP
          • Feb 2004
          • 2001

          #5
          Yes, from playing it, OOTP is less sim than this. This is on a different level than OOTP as far as simulating on the field action. This does not simulate the front office like OOTP. this is on the field simulation.

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          • bkrich83
            Has Been
            • Jul 2002
            • 71582

            #6
            Re: Dynasty League Baseball Update

            Originally posted by Sportsforever
            First off, comparing OOTP to this genre of game is like comparing apples & oranges. Secondly, having played both, yes, this game is more "sim" than OOTP. By "sim" I mean player abilities and statistics are more accurately represented. Everyone will have their own definition of sim, however.
            Originally posted by choadler
            Yes, from playing it, OOTP is less sim than this. This is on a different level than OOTP as far as simulating on the field action. This does not simulate the front office like OOTP. this is on the field simulation.
            Agreed. When talking a simulation of the on field baseball action this game is far beyond OOTP. Not even close.

            OOTP is in it's own class as a GM off the field sim, but from a strictly baseball played on the field perspective Dynasty League is on a whole other level.
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            • CPRoark
              Staff Writer
              • Feb 2003
              • 117

              #7
              Just for reference: dynastyleaguebaseball.com

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              • Craigsca
                Rookie
                • Dec 2003
                • 276

                #8
                So, what kind of sample sizes are required to ensure that a pitcher is truly "lockdown"? When you start trying to replicate the minutiae of baseball, you run the risk of replicating luck, rather than true skill.

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                • MikeCieslinski
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 54

                  #9
                  Good question. There is a special "JAM" pitcher situation rating and primarily only ERA qualifiers or Save leaders are candidates to be awarded the JAM pitcher situation rating. For the ON and OFF ratings the qualifications are not as stringent, but for the reasons you mention we manually review the pitcher ratings to make sure the pitcher "earned" the rating.

                  Here's more on Pitcher Situation ratings and replication of ERA:

                  Only DYNASTY League Baseball has special situation pitcher ratings that modify play results for the three most important situations pitcher's face:

                  - Pitching out of a Jam (JAM rating) example: Pete Vuckovich 1982 Milwaukee

                  - Rarely walking the lead off man (OFF rating) example: Dennis Eckersley
                  1988 A's

                  - Rarely allowing home runs with runners on base (ON rating) example: Jim Palmer 1982
                  Orioles

                  Without these three special pitcher situation ratings (JAM, OFF and ON) you can't realistically replicate a pitchers ERA.
                  Last edited by MikeCieslinski; 04-28-2011, 09:56 AM. Reason: typo

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                  • choadler
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 2001

                    #10
                    Re: Dynasty League Baseball Update

                    Originally posted by MikeCieslinski
                    Good question. There is a special "JAM" pitcher situation rating and primarily only ERA qualifiers or Save leaders are candidates to be awarded the JAM pitcher situation rating. For the ON and OFF ratings the qualifications are not as stringent, but for the reasons you mention we manually review the pitcher ratings to make sure the pitcher "earned" the rating.

                    Here's more on Pitcher Situation ratings and replication of ERA:

                    Only DYNASTY League Baseball has special situation pitcher ratings that modify play results for the three most important situations pitcher's face:

                    - Pitching out of a Jam (JAM rating) example: Pete Vuckovich 1982 Milwaukee

                    - Rarely walking the lead off man (OFF rating) example: Dennis Eckersley
                    1988 A's

                    - Rarely allowing home runs with runners on base (ON rating) example: Jim Palmer 1982
                    Orioles

                    Without these three special pitcher situation ratings (JAM, OFF and ON) you can't realistically replicate a pitchers ERA.
                    Mike,

                    I love the product that you guys have put out. But with family and work, it is hard to dedicate time to do tournaments and franchise leagues. Any thoughts on putting an option for users to be able to run a solitaire league with the product. I would definitely subscribe for the ability to do that.

                    I realize that you guys have a single player game for people to purchase, but I would prefer the subscription method and pay for the ability to play any season I want.

                    Again, congratulations on the product, it is really really fun, just not sure I can get enough value out of the gameplay for $15 a month.

                    Also for the single player game is there digital distribution or do you only do mail order. One last question does the single player game have card images and the die rolls just like the online version?

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                    • MikeCieslinski
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 54

                      #11
                      Originally posted by choadler
                      Mike,

                      I love the product that you guys have put out. But with family and work, it is hard to dedicate time to do tournaments and franchise leagues. Any thoughts on putting an option for users to be able to run a solitaire league with the product. I would definitely subscribe for the ability to do that.

                      I realize that you guys have a single player game for people to purchase, but I would prefer the subscription method and pay for the ability to play any season I want.

                      Again, congratulations on the product, it is really really fun, just not sure I can get enough value out of the gameplay for $15 a month.

                      Also for the single player game is there digital distribution or do you only do mail order. One last question does the single player game have card images and the die rolls just like the online version?
                      Great to hear you love DYNASTY League Baseball! The Greatest Team bracket tournaments are short format in that they are single elimination and there is a regular daily schedule of tournaments you can join.

                      The Greatest Team 54 game league option plays either one two or three game series a week and has flexible reschedule options. If you have time to play solitaire "Series" you would also have time for the multi-player tournaments and leagues. The idea behind the Online version was to make it easy for busy people to play in leagues and tournaments and take the time consuming drudgery out of multi-player leagues by eliminating things like having to export and import files to a central commissioner.

                      Having said all that, the Online version does have a solitaire "Series" play format as well where you have access to the entire library of DYNASTY League Baseball seasons.

                      There also is a discounted $11 per month rate if you select six months.
                      Last edited by MikeCieslinski; 04-28-2011, 02:35 PM.

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                      • dannyheck
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2005
                        • 30

                        #12
                        I will be honest. I am sad my trial is over, BUT, I'm going to try a month of this online stuff. OOTP is way too much GM stuff for me. I LOVE your game play, and having the stadiums already there, and not having any mods to add. I have actually already purchased another baseball sim game this year, but I'm STILL doing your game as well. Thanks for such a great game!

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                        • MikeCieslinski
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 54

                          #13
                          Great to hear Danny! See you in some of the Greatest Team multi-player bracket tournaments.

                          You are right about making things easy and not having to bother with installation, mods, imports and exports. Just log in and start playing!

                          We just added the 1974 season last week by the way and all seasons have actual vs. LH and vs. RH splits vs. ptichers and hitters which is critical in making a realistic baseball simulation.

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                          • Brandwin
                            Hall Of Fame
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 30621

                            #14
                            This game sounds pretty fun. I might have to give it a try.

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                            • canadian content
                              Rookie
                              • Mar 2011
                              • 4

                              #15
                              Re: Dynasty League Baseball Update

                              Originally posted by choadler
                              I love the product that you guys have put out. But with family and work, it is hard to dedicate time to do tournaments and franchise leagues. Any thoughts on putting an option for users to be able to run a solitaire league with the product. I would definitely subscribe for the ability to do that.
                              I have enjoyed playing in some of the greatest teams tournaments. The head to head games have, at times, been intense and a lot of fun (no connection problems whatsoever), but my main interest would have been in the draft leagues. I’ve been lobbying hard on other forums to get Mike and Jamie to consider computer manager/ netplay optional formats. It would be pretty tough to free up a couple of hours every week to play a series head to head with families and work commitments. I would love to take part in a 162 game draft league and it’s doable if a person can play exactly when they want.

                              Today, I’m up at 5 in the morning. Toast and coffee in the morning before heading off to work, enough time to play a few innings against my opposition’s computer manager. I can finish off the game when I get home after work before the kids get home. Up late on another occasion…1 AM, love to play a game and one that matters..…a league game, I can play the opposition’s computer manager. Next Thursday night, everyone else in the house is busy and that frees up some time, I’ll get a hold of the opposition’s manager and ask him if he would like to netplay a double header! Have leagues that are netplay optional…they will be far more popular than leagues that essentially force you to play your games head to head at set times.

                              Sometimes you want to zip through your games, sometimes you want to take your time and spend some time gazing over and dissecting your opposition’s cards, sometimes in the middle of a game I want to refer to my Baseball Prospectus to look at the scouting reports of a specific player….all of these instances lend themselves to the computer manager/ netplay optional format.

                              I really want to get involved in a 162 game draft league with Dynasty but without this kind of flexibility, I'll probably be sticking to a couple of stable OOTP leagues.

                              OOTP is a great game, too, but it's a completely different experience, one that I immensely enjoy but I am definitely more of a Stratomatic/ Replay/ Pursue the Pennant type of guy.

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