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  • Sportsforever
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    • Mar 2005
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    #2416
    Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    Not one guy on ESPN can hold a candle to Mayock. It's not even close. Mayock has actually had teams offer him front office jobs. You think any team would ever hire Kiper or McShay for a personnel job? Nope.
    Agree completely. One thing I like about Maycock is he can tell you WHY he likes a player in football terms. He breaks it down. Kiper just gets going all high energy talking about how much he likes a player because he's "insert generic football term".
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    • illwill10
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      • Mar 2009
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      #2417
      Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

      Originally posted by bkrich83
      Not one guy on ESPN can hold a candle to Mayock. It's not even close. Mayock has actually had teams offer him front office jobs. You think any team would ever hire Kiper or McShay for a personnel job? Nope.
      I would hire him quick If i was a Owner. It seems like he will make great picks for my team and they would fit my team

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      • IlliniM1ke
        Heroes Never Die
        • Feb 2003
        • 8082

        #2418
        Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

        Should be fun to watch, Cam Newton wants #2, doesn't sound like Clausen wants to give it up:

        Two days after Carolina drafted Cam Newton No. 1 overall, the Auburn quarterback stood beside Panthers passer Jimmy Clausen at a charity kickball game, both players donning shirts emblazoned with No. 2.

        "It's mine right now," Clausen told The Charlotte Observer in a story for Sunday's editions. "We'll see what happens."

        Clausen has welcomed Newton to the fold, but he's not about to hand over the No. 2 jersey -- or the No. 1 role.

        http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...e=HP_headlines

        Have to see how this plays out, you know Clausen has a huge ego and isn't going to want to give it up but I would think Carolina is going to back Newton and I won't be surprised if he gets it.
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        • bostonsports
          Rookie
          • May 2011
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          #2419
          Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

          Originally posted by CardsFan27
          Should be fun to watch, Cam Newton wants #2, doesn't sound like Clausen wants to give it up:

          Two days after Carolina drafted Cam Newton No. 1 overall, the Auburn quarterback stood beside Panthers passer Jimmy Clausen at a charity kickball game, both players donning shirts emblazoned with No. 2.

          "It's mine right now," Clausen told The Charlotte Observer in a story for Sunday's editions. "We'll see what happens."

          Clausen has welcomed Newton to the fold, but he's not about to hand over the No. 2 jersey -- or the No. 1 role.

          http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/09000...e=HP_headlines

          Have to see how this plays out, you know Clausen has a huge ego and isn't going to want to give it up but I would think Carolina is going to back Newton and I won't be surprised if he gets it.
          Lol he can give clausen his signing bonus and he can have the number, clausen didnt even wear 2 in college though
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          • IlliniM1ke
            Heroes Never Die
            • Feb 2003
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            #2420
            Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

            Originally posted by bostonsports
            Lol he can give clausen his signing bonus and he can have the number, clausen didnt even wear 2 in college though
            Exactly, I can't see why Clausen would care other than his ego, he knows Newton is going to take his job and I would bet he tries to hang onto #2 just to stick it to Cam.
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            • bostonsports
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              • May 2011
              • 192

              #2421
              Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

              Originally posted by CardsFan27
              Exactly, I can't see why Clausen would care other than his ego, he knows Newton is going to take his job and I would bet he tries to hang onto #2 just to stick it to Cam.
              Ya ive heard while clausen wont show it publicly, hes pritty arrogent. Who knows though, if I was in clausens shoes I would say all the right things to the media but not let cam have the number. A distraction like this for cam, could cause clausen to win the job or at least would make cam either pay or wear a different number.
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              • IlliniM1ke
                Heroes Never Die
                • Feb 2003
                • 8082

                #2422
                Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                Originally posted by bostonsports
                Ya ive heard while clausen wont show it publicly, hes pritty arrogent. Who knows though, if I was in clausens shoes I would say all the right things to the media but not let cam have the number. A distraction like this for cam, could cause clausen to win the job or at least would make cam either pay or wear a different number.
                Very true, I'm not particularly fond of either of them and don't really think either will be a successful QB at this level so I'm in for watching any kind of potential drama between them lol.
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                • ThePPL
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                  • Jun 2008
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                  #2423
                  Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                  I would hire him quick If i was a Owner. It seems like he will make great picks for my team and they would fit my team
                  I'm a big fan of Mayock and his analyst skills. But recently, days prior to the draft, I've been checking some of Mayock's position rankings and I am surprised with some of his 2010 player projections.

                  He put Gerald McCoy over Ndamukong Suh.

                  Aaron Hernandez was not even in his top 5 TE list, yet 7th round pick Dorin Dickerson was.

                  And he liked Earl Thomas more than Eric Berry.

                  Those picks kind of disappointed me. He makes great quick notes about each player selected, but I don't think he has the magic eye of finding a diamond in the rough.

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                  • bostonsports
                    Rookie
                    • May 2011
                    • 192

                    #2424
                    Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                    Originally posted by CardsFan27
                    Very true, I'm not particularly fond of either of them and don't really think either will be a successful QB at this level so I'm in for watching any kind of potential drama between them lol.
                    exactually how ive felt the whole time, I never lived up to the pro style hype of clausen last year, and never lived up to the explosive hype of newton this year. personaly I just dont like either guys personality's, but I also never have thought they would be sucussful nfl qb's. I would love some sorta drama between them
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                    • Hooe
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Aug 2002
                      • 21555

                      #2425
                      Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                      Originally posted by big_larry
                      Christian Ponder, worst pick in 2011 draft?

                      Ive seen him play a few times, and there is no way he is a first round draft pick. What were the Vikings thinking, who idea was this, they alt to be fired.
                      I pretty much ripped Ponder apart a few pages back, so I basically agree with you. Ponder had no business getting drafted until the third day, IMO.

                      Originally posted by bkrich83
                      Not one guy on ESPN can hold a candle to Mayock. It's not even close. Mayock has actually had teams offer him front office jobs. You think any team would ever hire Kiper or McShay for a personnel job? Nope.
                      I agree with you by-and-large. That said, I do think Trent Dilfer and Jon Gruden are competent specifically when evaluating quarterbacks.

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                      • Hova57
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                        • Mar 2008
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                        #2426
                        Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                        overall I'm happy with the eagles draft. Over the last two years I think they have done well. But hard to say how well the defense will be. A Former Offensive line coach head of defense and so other pieces added. I don't know, couple that with no free agency yet its hard to say how well this drafted players will contribute. IMO I don't see immediate starters except first pick. I feel like they put their practice team together during the draft.

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                        • Chrisksaint
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                          • Apr 2010
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                          #2427
                          Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                          Indeed I really liked Dilfer and Gruden on the Draft they werent afraid to dish it out especially Dilfer, I just feel that Kiper focuses too much on the positives if a prospect that when atleast analyzing the players it seems he just barely mentions the negatives imo
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                          • goh
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 20755

                            #2428
                            Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                            Originally posted by SouthernBrick
                            Dude is 5'8 180 pounds of air. I think he needs to add 10 pounds and I to am surprised but, then again I'm kinda not. And if he has injury history I could see why teams would shy away from Noel although I was hoping SD would grab him. At his weight I think he can make a team if in the right situation.
                            Can he be a returner maybe? Looks pretty fast from what I looked up. I reconize the name but don't know why,did he get into some kind of trouble?

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                            • AuburnAlumni
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                              • Jul 2002
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                              #2429
                              Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                              <--- Still angry. WTF Minnesota???
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                              • kingkilla56
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                                • Jun 2009
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                                #2430
                                Re: 2011 NFL Draft Thread

                                Best Pick In Draft!!!

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