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  • UniversityofArizona
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    • Dec 2009
    • 322

    #61
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

    Would be nice to see the wide receiver break and fight for the ball as well instead of running away to blindly continue his route even as the ball is in the air. Would be nice to see a wide receiver occasionally stumble trying to turn around and recover to catch the ball.

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    • redskinst21
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      • Feb 2009
      • 129

      #62
      when the players back pedal and side shuffle its looks way to floaty, they need to try and tone that down

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      • Blackout863
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        • Feb 2009
        • 271

        #63
        what 4-2-5 was he watching vs wisconsin because i remember wisconsin gashing it.
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        • Blackout863
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          • Feb 2009
          • 271

          #64
          if shutting down a wisconsin rushing attack is holding them to 226 on the ground and avg 4.9 a carry, then that defense will be easy to beat this yr


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          • StL_RamZ
            Pro
            • Mar 2011
            • 726

            #65
            Looks like the defender is ice skating...

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            • Bfreecloud
              Rookie
              • Apr 2010
              • 16

              #66
              more skating than the NHL

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
                MVP
                • Sep 2010
                • 2801

                #67
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                Is it just me or does it look like the D-Line actually gets off the line more realistically.

                I do not have the most keen eye but it seems that the D-Line will move forward off the snap, rather than stand straight up and then forward.

                The speed of the baackpeddal/sidestep still looks a little odd.
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                • Card-me
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 275

                  #68
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                  I'll be honest, that was very disappointing to watch. DBs were floating all over the place, linebackers were backpedaling faster than receivers were running, and all the defenders seemed to react way too fast. The problem last year was that the defenders never committed to a route, they just stood around and let receivers run around them, so certain routes were almost always open. What this video looks like is that the defenders still aren't committing to routes, they're just floating around super fast covering all routes and jumping ones as you push the button. What they really should be doing is copmmitting to a route and trusting somebody else to cover the other routes. Good passing schemes are designed so that you force a defender to go one way and leave the other guy open. That won't work if the defender can just float around covering both guys.

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                  • LionsFanNJ
                    All Star
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 9472

                    #69
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                    ...Did I just see an edge rush??? Very nice. And i can deal with the sliding, its been in the game for years and i'm used to it. I would be nice if i got tweaked. The zone coverage/pre snap movement looks great too.

                    I'm really going to enjoy the game this year. Though i already see the whining about zone's too good, and a day 1 or close to it patch, and well never see the zone coverage fix again.
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                    • frankrizzo380
                      Pro
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 525

                      #70
                      Re: New Zone Coverage Video

                      great vid, but i never had any problem taking away the skinny post or any other over the mid passes to TEs and/or slot WRs, never had any problem with stopping RB flats passes either, wish we could see some base 3-4 defense plays tho!
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                      • drlw322
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                        • Jun 2007
                        • 1430

                        #71
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                        good vid but why is everyone sliding
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                        • backinblack23
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                          • Oct 2009
                          • 33

                          #72
                          Re: New Zone Coverage Video

                          Originally posted by frankrizzo380
                          great vid, but i never had any problem taking away the skinny post or any other over the mid passes to TEs and/or slot WRs, never had any problem with stopping RB flats passes either, wish we could see some base 3-4 defense plays tho!
                          Well consider yourself lucky than, I would say over 70% of the guys that I played online abused the hell out of it. I could stop the passing routes by manually controlling a safety but then they would just take off running with a scrambling qb or wait for a lb'er to quit covering a guy.

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                          • big_larry
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 574

                            #73
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                            I hate how the receivers don't plant their feet when cutting on their routes, looks like they are gliding and turning, instead of planting an cutting.

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                            • ODogg
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                              • Feb 2003
                              • 38006

                              #74
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - New Zone Coverage

                              Great to hear that's fixed, that's pretty much why the NCAA 11 was such a score fest!
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                              • poilbrun
                                Rookie
                                • Aug 2009
                                • 41

                                #75
                                I watched this video at work with no sound, but there seems to be several where the safety (who should cover the top of the routes while the corner protects underneath), drops underneath for the interception.

                                There's also a lack of videos on the transition between zones. A good way to beat zone coverage is to have crossing receivers that move from one side of the formation to the others. I'd be curious to see some videos to see if the quality of the defenders influences it. It happens all the time that one defender will cover his receiver for too long and then have to play catch-up to the other ones because his team mate did it correctly.

                                Basically, I hope that zone coverage will not become the one and only way to defend. Currently, they showed it worked well (of course, you wouldn't show your new system and how it could be beat), but if zone coverage means no dropped coverage and risky moves that always turn into interceptions, why play man coverage.

                                I hope also that it will be possible to play mixed man/zones, where you leave your #1 CB on the #1 WR while the rest of the defense plays a zone. That's a risky move since you have one player less to cover the zones, but it's not an unusual defense when you have a very good corner.

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