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  • bhl
    Rookie
    • Jan 2007
    • 114

    #1

    Wrigley Field

    Does anyone else have trouble hitting here in the late innings in day games...? Seeing the ball in the 7th-9th innings is next to impossible for me. Thoughts?
  • Neolithic
    Pro
    • Apr 2003
    • 699

    #2
    Re: Wrigley Field

    as a Cubs fan, I can say that the shadows do play with hitters in those late innings. however, the shadows in 2k11 are a ...... touch extreme. It's a shadow, not an eclipse.
    You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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    • bhl
      Rookie
      • Jan 2007
      • 114

      #3
      Re: Wrigley Field

      Originally posted by Neolithic
      as a Cubs fan, I can say that the shadows do play with hitters in those late innings. however, the shadows in 2k11 are a ...... touch extreme. It's a shadow, not an eclipse.
      Yeah, I am a Cubs fan as well...I know that there are shadows there...but seriously it is unplayable if I don't score by the 6th inning or am down late I automatically lose.

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      • cardswin2006
        Rookie
        • Mar 2011
        • 328

        #4
        Re: Wrigley Field

        Originally posted by bhl
        Yeah, I am a Cubs fan as well...I know that there are shadows there...but seriously it is unplayable if I don't score by the 6th inning or am down late I automatically lose.
        As a Cub fan, you should be used to this



        Sincerely,

        A Cardinals fan

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        • Neolithic
          Pro
          • Apr 2003
          • 699

          #5
          Re: Wrigley Field

          Originally posted by cardswin2006
          As a Cub fan, you should be used to this



          Sincerely,

          A Cardinals fan
          I'll return this favor when Carpenter blows his arm out this season.
          You do what you want in your association, don't let others ruin the fun. Just because other people say it's cheap doesn't mean you have to let it affect your association, just have fun - Evan_OS

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          • cardswin2006
            Rookie
            • Mar 2011
            • 328

            #6
            Re: Wrigley Field

            Lol. Well we already had Wainright go down for the year, that would just be unfair.

            Plus it's highly unlikely both pitchers would have catastrophic injuries, right? I mean, who do we have as our manager, Dusty Baker or something?

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            • Chasden
              Rookie
              • May 2011
              • 10

              #7
              Re: Wrigley Field

              Everyone knows that pitchers are 16.7% less likely to be injured when hitting in the 8th spot.

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              • ambizytl
                Banned
                • Feb 2011
                • 548

                #8
                Re: Wrigley Field

                Originally posted by bhl
                Does anyone else have trouble hitting here in the late innings in day games...? Seeing the ball in the 7th-9th innings is next to impossible for me. Thoughts?
                Yes, and I think it's ridiculous. I complained about this before and a few people came on and said it was realistic--they liked it that way.

                As a person playing a video game that in no way makes me think it's real, I think this shadow thing is way overdone. I just want to have fun, and I want to see dee ball.

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                • p00p1
                  Pro
                  • Aug 2002
                  • 987

                  #9
                  Re: Wrigley Field

                  Agreed. WAY overdone. It's a nice effect to have, but the developers seem to think that baseballs are invisible when they are in a shadow.

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                  • lnin0
                    MVP
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 1507

                    #10
                    Re: Wrigley Field

                    In general 2K uses bright and contrast to try and simulate lighting conditions that are not translatable to TV. While 2Ks approach may seem overdone at times I think it creates a more realistic simulation of how our eyes actually behave.

                    I am sure we have all watched a televised skiing event on a sunny, snow covered mountain. While the tv image can convey that it is indeed a sunny day it really doesn't convey the same reality on our eyes as 'being there'. Really skiiing on a sunny, snow covered mountain is almost blinding - so what is a problem for our eyes is not for the tv. Same with bright sun and shadows. These can be immense trouble for eyes to adjust to.
                    Last edited by lnin0; 05-04-2011, 05:41 PM.

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                    • bulls23
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 1740

                      #11
                      Re: Wrigley Field

                      About ready to make my first trip into Wrigley during franchise. I'll check it out myself, but first thought is that I appreciate the realism 2K put into this aspect of the game. Hitters have always said it is hard to pick up balls in the shadow.

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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22923

                        #12
                        Re: Wrigley Field

                        Originally posted by lnin0
                        In general 2K uses contrast to try and simulate lighting conditions that are not translatable to TV. I think it it what gives the game an odd look but also a more realistic simulation of sunny conditions.

                        I am sure we have all watched a televised boat race on a bright, sunny ocean or a skiing event on a sunny, snow covered mountain. While the tv image can convey that it is indeed a sunny day it really doesn't convey the same reality on our eyes as 'being there'. Really skiiing on a sunny, snow covered mountain is almost blinding - something that does not translate to your TV.

                        Same with bright sun and shadows. These can be immense trouble for eyes to adjust to. While 2Ks approach may seem overdone at times I think it creates a more realistic simulation of how our eyes actually behave.
                        I concur.
                        “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                        ― Plato

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                        • bhl
                          Rookie
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 114

                          #13
                          Re: Wrigley Field

                          Originally posted by bulls23
                          About ready to make my first trip into Wrigley during franchise. I'll check it out myself, but first thought is that I appreciate the realism 2K put into this aspect of the game. Hitters have always said it is hard to pick up balls in the shadow.
                          That may be true...but they can still hit the ball late in the game. Score before the 7th or you're in trouble in my opinion.

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                          • p00p1
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 987

                            #14
                            Re: Wrigley Field

                            Originally posted by bulls23
                            About ready to make my first trip into Wrigley during franchise. I'll check it out myself, but first thought is that I appreciate the realism 2K put into this aspect of the game. Hitters have always said it is hard to pick up balls in the shadow.
                            I played there the first time about a week ago, after hearing everyone complain, I was curious to see how bad it was. I've played in other parks where shadows were noticeable, but nothing as bad as Wrigley. Unless they fix it, I'm planning on simming any future games there.

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                            • jeffy777
                              MVP
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 3325

                              #15
                              Re: Wrigley Field

                              I think the shadows are fine. The problem with Wrigley is the default hitting camera is very low, so the "batter's eye" on the outfield wall doesn't help much. The pitcher's release point is higher than the outfield wall so the ball blends in with the crowd in the outfield bleachers. What I usually do is just bump the camera height up a bit at Wrigley and that helps, but it makes it a little harder to read pitches that are low in the zone.

                              Otherwise, I love the default hitting camera in his game, but the dimensions of Wrigley aren't really suited for it because the "batter's eye" on the outfield wall is lower than most other parks.

                              Switching to the old school camera angle solves this too (I think it's the batter 3 preset maybe, I don't have the game in front of me right now), but I prefer the new camera angle for reading balls and strikes.
                              Last edited by jeffy777; 05-05-2011, 11:40 AM.

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