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  • Lisa_Bonami
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    • Aug 2003
    • 1293

    #1

    I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

    Its amazing the test of time this game has stood. When I think about how off the public reviewers were in sports games, I think of 2K8 and I think of NHL 2011. ( I dont want to get into how overly praised NHL 2011 is) but I do want to discuss how 2K8 was just so underappreciated by so many inexperienced sports video game writers.

    Yes, I do understand that there were some issues with the game's AI and the newly introduced control scheme (which is easily changed to Pro Classic and becomes absolutely stellar) but the things that this game DOES do right is head and shoulders above anything that we even have out on the market today!....and that is by BOTH EA ....and...'ahem'...2Ksports.


    However, To really appreciate it, you need to be away from it a while, playing both of the companies current Hockey offerings for a while.

    Then you need to tweak some sliders and you can have an almost beautiful rendition of the NHL sport we watch on tv moreso than any of the other games.

    I mean I was simply amazed at the ebb and flow of this game how it realistically portrays real hockey. From the battle to penetrate neutral ice , to the most realistic sensations of taking wristers, snap shots, slappers, quick flicks and off target backhanders that lack mustard. The controls (on Pro Classic mode) and animations wonderfully convey this feel and struggle to get off these variety of shots accurately to the net.

    There are just so many little relationships and attention to details that most gamers wont even notice how deep this game tries to capture the sport. The way the goalies will realistically fall to the ice and desperately lunge and flail to game control and reposition themselves which also leaves areas of the net open to only have a low accuracy shooter miss an easy flick to the corner of the net is simply a joy to experience.

    All the extra attributes such as shovel, nerve, composure, Star Quality, etc that play a subtle but noticeable difference making up for a variety of dynamic situations is a true testament of the team's love and experience of the sport.

    No hockey game I have played had the right balance of really rewarding me with the feel of accomplishment as I was able to string a series of passes around the offensive zone and then kick it back to an uncovered defender at the top of the point who pauses to receive the pass...lines it up and unleashes a lazered slapper to the top corner of a screened goalie that sends the puck rattling around and back out of the net.

    Sure this can be done in other games, but just not with the same sense of satisfaction when it can be realistically pulled off to perfection.

    The freedom of total right stick movement seperate from your player's motion was also fantastic. The ability to defend and poke the puck free was also done very realistically and dynamically.

    I can simply go on and on about all the wonderful elements of this game and all the little things it did right....but I'd rather go play another game in my new Franchise with the 2011 360 rosters that are floating around here.

    This game is just so underappreciated....and I felt the urge to discuss it. Perhaps Im simply off base with these observations. What do you think?
  • RealmK
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    • Sep 2003
    • 4198

    #2
    Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

    I think we played different versions of 2k8, mine had crappy controls, brain dead AI and a broken franchise mode.

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    • Fiddy
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      • Jul 2002
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      #3
      Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

      hahahahahaha

      2k8 had some of the best controls in a hockey game ever. decent AI (compared to NHL 11 etc) and a great franchise mode. deeper than anything any game has to offer to this day.

      i think you may just need to check out the NHL 94 section, bc that seems like the best game for you.
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      • Flyermania
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        • Jun 2004
        • 2182

        #4
        Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

        I thought the controls were a bit too cumbersome, and the check-happy AI was way too over the top --- it consistently left the AI-controlled players out of position and led to too many odd-man rushes and goals.
        "And by the way, you know, when you're telling these little stories? Here's a good idea - have a POINT. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener!"

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        • savoie2006
          R.I.P 2KHockey 2000-2011
          • Sep 2006
          • 4657

          #5
          Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

          I think 2K8 was a good game, but not great by any means. If not for the Franchise freeze issue and the over aggressive D, it may have been great. I never thought the controls were that bad, even when I first bought the game. I prefer analog, but 2K8's suffice. All that said, if there was some work around for the franchise freeze without having to play with injuries/trades off the entire year, I would enjoy 2K8 enough to play it. That and 2K10 are my only choices at the moment.
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          • daflyboys
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            • May 2003
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            #6
            Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

            AI controlled players not doing their job = sports game killer.

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            • savoie2006
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              • Sep 2006
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              Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

              Originally posted by daflyboys
              AI controlled players not doing their job = sports game killer.
              So you're not playing any sports games at the moment huh, because I know they don't do what they are suppose to in NHL 11 and they don't any other sports games that I've seen either.
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              • RealmK
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                • Sep 2003
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                #8
                Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                Originally posted by savoie2006
                So you're not playing any sports games at the moment huh, because I know they don't do what they are suppose to in NHL 11 and they don't any other sports games that I've seen either.
                I dunno, I actually don't hate 11's AI, its not perfect by any means but it at least knows what positioning is and what a proper break out is. If you have to go D to D to get out you can. 2k's game once you have the puck the 4 other players sprint out of the zone instantly.

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                • daflyboys
                  Banned
                  • May 2003
                  • 18238

                  #9
                  Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                  I sold NHL 11 back to Amazon when I could get a prime buck after I realized what is was. I re-bought 2K10 when I jumped over to the PS3. And there are times when the AI cycles the puck and it's jaw dropping, but the AI positioning on defense is too aggressive. I don't get as wiggy about goalie animations like a lot of you hardcore hockey gamers do and I think 2K10 is serviceable. 2K's larger problem is service, not product.

                  I do play a ton out of MVP 05 on the PC and the AI is great with no catch up logic when set the correct way.

                  NFL 2K5 when tweaked properly also has/had great AI and the APF crowd will tell you the same (but that game never grabbed me the same way).

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                  • TSOLEliot
                    Pro
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 965

                    #10
                    Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                    I think the answer is none of the games are great.

                    I think 2K8 is better than the current offerings out there even with its faults...I love the controls which took some time to get. It's not perfect by any means but personally I enjoy it.

                    NHL11 was fun for a while but I got bored with it...I liked the HUT feature but that grew tired. The franchise customization was a little stale for my liking. Gameplay itself was pretty tight.

                    2K10 is fun as well but the player models bug me and the lack of the other visuals (stats in game, assists, etc)...although gameplay AI is improved over 2K8. The stat tracking outside of the game is stellar.
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                    • aloncho11
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                      • Jul 2010
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                      #11
                      Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                      Can anyone please post some gameplay footage?
                      Only respectable people deserve respect, you destroyed the game.

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                      • savoie2006
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                        • Sep 2006
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                        #12
                        Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                        Originally posted by aloncho11
                        Can anyone please post some gameplay footage?
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                        • CupCrazyManiac
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                          Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

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                          • MiNiDiTkA
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                            • Aug 2003
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                            #14
                            Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                            Originally posted by aloncho11
                            Can anyone please post some gameplay footage?
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                            Last edited by MiNiDiTkA; 05-23-2011, 01:04 PM.

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                            • phillyfan23
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                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2319

                              #15
                              Re: I just cant believe how PLAYABLE NHL 2K8 is...yes 2K8!

                              bought 2k8 2 days ago....(bought it at launch, but since I had nhl 08, I didn't give 2k8 a fair chance and didn't really mess with sliders enough)...

                              Fast forward nearly 4 years later, I re-purchased the game after seeing near up-to-date roster edits) .....after tinkering with sliders the last 2-3 days...the game plays great. Great scoring variety, Cpu plays a realistic game, they dump and chase, they are aggressive, they cycle and it's just a fantastic game.

                              ONE huge problem for me however. I commit enough penalties ( raised my roughness slider to 100),but the CPU commits 1-2 penalties a game max 3. I play 10 minutes , All Star and everything else is good statwise.

                              I tried to edit the CPU's roughness to 100 in the team strategies page, and it starts out at 100 , but after a shift the CPU roughness level drops to default. I edited their dump/chase tendencies to high 90s and it sticks, but the roughness won't stay the same.

                              Anyone know how to draw more penalties?
                              Anyone know how to lock the cpu roughness level ?

                              thanks a lot!

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