NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

[mgoblue678]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I would guess that the examples we saw of the d-lineman bowling overs guys are players with high strength and power move rating against smaller, lower rated offensive lineman. I would guess that if you have a more balanced matchup you will get the two players engaging and pushing back before getting past the o-linemen. Just not knocking them on their backs.

I hope so because very rarely do you see a d-linemen just topple an o-linemen like that. With most bull rushes the d-linemen drives the o-linemen backwards towards the QB to collapse the pocket, with the o-linemen still on his feet. That animation needs to be pretty rare, because that simply isn't the way most bull rushes play out.

Here is an example the interaction on the majority of successful bull rushes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Smuv32N0Bc8 (sorry don't know how to embed)

Notice how the d-linemen drives the o-linemen back though, he doesn't topple him over.

[carnalnirvana]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

even D2 OL wont get pushed down like that, guys get pushed back and if an OL falls its due to bad footwork after a struggle not an insta punked like we just say.

if that happened 2 times to a player he would be cut.

but sliders will fix this, they put this in for guys who were putting QB's on the O line doing tests.....

[radatdude2]

bull rush looks good but the offensive lineman is not giving enough resistance

[DavidmOrtiz15]

In Ncaa and In Madden, not enough balls are caught in traffic period. I hate the fact that I bullet a pass and fit it through a window to have my receiver or tight end drop it, and not even that the corner or whomever is playing the ball can be three yards away and he'll still managed to drop it. These animations look great, by far something I look forward to buying along with Madden. I just hope our recievers and tight ends do one of the few jobs they have which is catching the ball. But EA, your doing great so far, keep up the good workk.

[wrigleyville33]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I like how they are implementing diving catches considering how often they are used in real life. Hopefully they get the receivers to actually jump up for the ball rather then wait for the ball to get to them. I also hope they threw out the Tyree animation for good.

[DGMikeBarker]

If this takes into account the players ratings/weight etc..., then maybe.
If it's just a random AI decision, then OMG, here we go :P

Also, a true bullrush does not just run over the OL.
The DL/LB drives the OL backwards while "Engaged".
Not just topple the guy.

For the diving catch animation.
As long as every attempt is not a success.
There are more dropped passes when such an attempt is made vs caught.

Still waiting for actual College style pass catching.
Very few college players catch with their hands only.
Most use the stomach or shoulder pad catch.

Can't wait to see everything in it's fullness vs snippets.

I agree with everything you said. Hope they've added those animations.

[Jessep07]

Wow. I LOVE the cuts the receivers make at 42 seconds and 49 seconds. Those look fantastic.

[rylynner]

NCAA and Madden 12 seems like they might be very similar games this year, and i for one, am A-OK with that.

[Diabolicole]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I wonder what would happen if an OL got bull rushed into your HB after a handoff, would he get juke around, jump over or just get hung up until a defender gets there?

Dive catches are nice as long as it's not a guaranteed catch every time you see that animation, should be a tough catch to pull in.

[rylynner]

*I wonder what would happen if an OL got bull rushed into your HB after a handoff, would he get juke around, jump over or just get hung up until a defender gets there?*

Hopefully these situations play out more like FIFA in that there is a organic result every time and not some canned animation that you can't break out of.

[J-SKI]

very disappointing.....hope it doesn't look that easy when the game comes out

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

As much as I am glad they added the bull rush finally in ncaa and mostly madden this year. The DE bowling the olineman over like that without the olineman putting up a fight does not happen just like that. It might happen once in a while. But the true bullrush has the dlineman pushing the olineman back into the QB hip pocket or bullrushing and then doing a swim move to get to the QB. I really hope this is going to be fine tune and all. This looks ok but needs some major tuning to make it look more real. I love the diving catches aswell. But I think both the bullrush and diving catching needs some tuning to make sure it ain't overdone. Overall is looks ok for now.

[UniversityofArizona]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I can see it now. I am playing with a weak team and all 5 of my offensive linemen get swim moved or bull rushed and they all just fall over, and my running back gets tackled by 4-5 people the moment he gets the hand off.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I can see it now. I am playing with a weak team and all 5 of my offensive linemen get swim moved or bull rushed and they all just fall over, and my running back gets tackled by 4-5 people the moment he gets the hand off.

Yea I can see it now. But on a serious note tho. I really hope they do tune the bullrush to only happen at certain times and is done according to the players ratings. If the bullrush is overdone then a ton of people on day one are going to complain about this. But we have to remember this is just a video to show off the bullrush. I'm sure they will show video later on to show how the olineman will counter it and all. So not to worried right now. I will wait until more videos are shown.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I can see it now. I am playing with a weak team and all 5 of my offensive linemen get swim moved or bull rushed and they all just fall over, and my running back gets tackled by 4-5 people the moment he gets the hand off.

LOL you can see that now in NCAA 11. Play as Akron or Western Kentucky against Alabama or Wisconsin. You won't stand a chance.