NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

[Chowdah]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

I have a feeling that the bull rush will be CHEESE online and does the A.I know when to dive catch. When they go towards the sideline will they know to keep both feet in or dive catch out of bounds

[turftickler]

Why use the same motion capture "actor" for every player that will use the dive and/or catch animations? That makes absolutely no sense and I feel that I would not be getting my money's worth. I hate to keep using 2k Sports as an example, but they used multiple real players for their animations, especially for star players.

Why do I feel like this year will be no different than last year's NCAA 11 and Madden NFL 11. All the graphical and presentational upgrades are great, but I have watched all of the videos and I see lots of problems. Some of the problems were fixed, while new ones were added.

[Gotmadskillzson]

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Am I the only one who noticed that the players seemed more grounded and the cuts were better than what we have seen?

Also, on the first pass it looked to be floated up pretty nice, not the typical frozen rope pass.

As far as the bull rushing goes, its really cool. Like others have said I hope it isn't overused.

Yeah the WR did seem to have to come to almost a complete stop before he turned in during those in and out routes. Which is a good thing IMO, hopefully they did the same thing on slant routes.

And the DE did seem to be running a lot slower too, compared to last year when from snap they would bolt a little bit too fast.

I wonder if they used the same running animation technology that madden 11 used. Because for those who played both games, the spin, juke moves animations on Madden 11 was totally different then NCAA 11.

[jagsrock95]

Yeah I didn't really see any "skating" in this video and those cuts did look pretty good too. oh and the grass continues to amaze me every time I see it =P

[Hova57]

Exactly why does it matter who does the motion capture shoots. I can understand if we're lookin for a specific animation that particular player does. It doesn't make sense to me.

[Keith121212]

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That bullrush animation is crap. Straight up. It almost never happens that way, especially from a defender coming from right over the line a yard away.

The line interaction in this game is so bad. It's laughable. Really. All this praise for that horrendous animation. OS never disappoints.

[Mr_Riddick]

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Exactly why does it matter who does the motion capture shoots. I can understand if we're lookin for a specific animation that particular player does. It doesn't make sense to me.

It matters bc we want this game depicted realistically. From the looks of the the mocap vids past and present, these guys don't even look like athletes let alone football players. And that is where I think the problem lies.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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That bullrush animation is crap. Straight up. It almost never happens that way, especially from a defender coming from right over the line a yard away.

The line interaction in this game is so bad. It's laughable. Really. All this praise for that horrendous animation. OS never disappoints.

Well I wouldn't say it is Horrendous bro. But I thought about it as I watched a few times. That I remember they are just showing off the bullrush right now. I'm sure the olineman ain't going to bowl over like that in the game. This is just mainly showing off the animation in the game. I'm sure they will sooner or later show off the olineman trying to block the bullrush. It's better to wait and see a full gameplay video before jumping the gun on this new animation they add onto the Dline and all.

[TDenverFan]

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Well I wouldn't say it is Horrendous bro. But I thought about it as I watched a few times. That I remember they are just showing off the bullrush right now. I'm sure the olineman ain't going to bowl over like that in the game. This is just mainly showing off the animation in the game. I'm sure they will sooner or later show off the olineman trying to block the bullrush. It's better to wait and see a full gameplay video before jumping the gun on this new animation they add onto the Dline and all.

That was my thought exactly... Who wants to watch a failed bull-rush animation a dozen times?

[illwill10]

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Well I wouldn't say it is Horrendous bro. But I thought about it as I watched a few times. That I remember they are just showing off the bullrush right now. I'm sure the olineman ain't going to bowl over like that in the game. This is just mainly showing off the animation in the game. I'm sure they will sooner or later show off the olineman trying to block the bullrush. It's better to wait and see a full gameplay video before jumping the gun on this new animation they add onto the Dline and all.

It was probably shown on Freshman difficulty like the Hillis video. They most likely boosted the DLine rating and decrezsed the oline rating.

[canes21]

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These videos are meant to show off the animations smoothly, so we're going to see the defensive lineman dominate and the WR's have great athleticism and hands. Like will said, the Hillis video was just like this. They aren't going to show the animations failing or the average play when showing the game off.

And watching it again and just focusing on WR routes and coverage, it looks very very good.

[illwill10]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Diving Catches and Bull Rushes

These videos are meant to show off the animations smoothly, so we're going to see the defensive lineman dominate and the WR's have great athleticism and hands. Like will said, the Hillis video was just like this. They aren't going to show the animations failing or the average play when showing the game off.

And watching it again and just focusing on WR routes and coverage, it looks very very good.

agreed.
To hardcore fans it is a great animations, but it may seem to see abused and over done.
To casual fans they would be sold.
They are trying to sway the casual into being sold and trying to assure hardcore that "we are listening".
So I doubt it would have 5+ times a game

[LiquorLogic]

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I can already tell that I'm going to have slider the hell out of this to get the results I want.

People keep saying that they can fix this with sliders, but without the proper animations, which we have yet to see, sliders will just get rid of bull-rush all together.

[=Tac=]

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Would be awesome too seeing a DT pushing their guy backwards and grabbing the qb on the way by

[Pokes404]

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I like the move, but let the offensive player stay on their feet most of the time. Sure, he's going to get driven back into the backfield, but at least he still has a chance to make a play. Please, please don't tell me that every successful bull rush is going to flatten the blocker. When we complain about "scripted" outcomes and a lack of organic gameplay, this is what we're talking about. Just let the guy stay on his feet most of the time and this will be a nice addition.

As for the diving catches, pretty much the same thing. As long as they don't happen too often or result in a catch the majority of the time, I'd rather have stretch/diving catch attempts over warping players any day. EA's walking dangerous ground here. I can easily see either one of these things being overpowered. However, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt until we see actual gameplay videos.