NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playbooks

[theaub]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

And you can do that yourself. Other people who want to have some ridiculous offense that ranges from a 5 wide set to the flexbone shouldn't be limited.

[209vaughn]

WOW!! EA has me seriously excited this year!! Hopefully NCAA 12 gets some of the presentation effects that Madden is recieving.

[XMr HIT STICKX]

Here is the difference, custom playbooks is not to define to the style f the school, it's to fully define what YOUR style is, and not anyone else's, so limiting creativity and options would defeat the purpose. I for one loved this feature on the PS2, and I will definitely enjoy creating the Spread Option/Pistol Attack of my dreams, as well is creating the my 3-4/3-3-5 hybrid defense.

[coogrfan]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

And you can do that yourself. Other people who want to have some ridiculous offense that ranges from a 5 wide set to the flexbone shouldn't be limited.

I agree with Ryno that this is completely un-sim, but I also agree that the only limits should be self-imposed.

[smace767]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

Really? i disagree with that. The box i play in is called SIM... and you don't see Texas Tech running the flexbone mixed in with their spread. You don't see Standford running wishbone sets or the Maryland I.

The extra layer needed is "style". You should have to designate a "style" that limits the formations you can choose from... I'm not saying you couldn't have some option stuff in there as a spread team.. but it should be very limited selection.

Again, all my opinion.

thanks rynoaid you beat me to it.

while 40 formations is only 20% of avail, lot of plays are the same concept out of a slightly different alignment. i'm sure there are a good 15 iso plays.

however i would like to see that additional filter and force some kind of range limit of playbooks. If you chose a style 70 percent of the playbook match that style. i mean a pass off can still have pistol, one back ect and even have a few different style formations.

I would like to see If you choose multiple playbook style then you are limited to 3 or 4 formations from each parent group,(shotgun, wishbone, pistol, i form, ace, ect...)

as a note uconn, ucla, utah st, illin, mich st, miami had the most diverse playbooks with only a max of 6 different formation types. and miami had the most formations at 23. The avg was like about 4 different parent formation types.

ncaa 11 parent formation types:

ace
empty
far
flexbone
i form
jumbo
Maryland
pistol
power I
shotgun
split
strong
weak
wishbone

[da ThRONe]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

Never was a big fan of custom playbooks. Glad so many of you are getting what you want. I'm of the mindset that all these additional plays and custom playbooks are rather useless until the CPU AI actually starts taking into account the way I call plays.

[smace767]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

Create a playbook and put any formation you want but you should still have some type of base line. why because thats football. if the battle cry is EA needs to be more realistic, sim or whatever we want to call it.

Then having :

3 wishbone,
6 flexbone,
5 pistol,
10 shotgun
8 I
6 ace
2 empty

formations in the same playbook is about as bad as any animation, slide, warp or suction block in terms of realism.

Now it is a game and you should be able to make them and use them as you wish in single player. but in an od or online we should stick to a more realistic approach to playbooks.

Anybody who has ever played football knows there is no way you could implement the offense i listed above with any kind of realistic success of execution. There is a reason you dont see real teams diversfy to this extreme. Utah st, uconn and UCLA have very diverse formation sets but even they dont go that far out of their base approach.

[coogrfan]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

Two words--house rules.

[NDAlum]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

My girl is going to be so pissed...

[NDAlum]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

How do you figure that? With being able to only having 15 offensive playbooks, you realistically will only be able to change 14 CPU offensive playbooks in dynasty (Considering that you change your own). So out of 100+ teams in NCAA you will only be able to change 1/10 of the teams "play calling".

Granted you will never play all 100+ teams in dynasty and maybe only 20+ regularly, it still leaves a gap where you will be forced to go with EA's default playbook for that team. Unless you can add/delete/change pb's in dynasty mode and re-assign them to new teams.

Now I look forward to this feature and playing with it. Just wish they would have let us create as many as we like and assign them to as many teams as we like.

Thought:

Create 14 playbooks for different play styles and assign to CPU teams accordingly.

So you can create 14 playbooks but assign them to whoever you want, right? That's my take

No more pocket QBs trying to run!!!

[TheTodd84]

This is so amazing. I cannot wait to make my team a run-first team with a multitude of formations. It won't be strictly option, but you can bet the zone read, the pistol plays and the flexbone and wishbone plays will be in there. S***. Just gave away my team's philosophy. Oh well.

My only question to EA is this... and it is a HUGE concern for me as well. Will the CPU defensive play-calling be fixed? What I mean by that is... will the user have to go into to every team's coaching philosophy during a dynasty and turn down the blitzing so it is realistic?

I can remember a couple of CPU teams I played in a "Play Now" game and in dynasty before I made the adjustments literally blitzing 80% of the time. That's just plain un-realistic. No team in the HISTORY of football has ever blitzed that often. The most blitz-happy teams in football history at any level have blitzed between 30 and 40% of the time, that's it. It's too kamikaze to blitz more often than that. I REALLY hope they have fixed this so when I am doing a play now before the custom rosters come out, I'm not breaking 80 yard runs with a power back on 1st and 10 because the CPU sent their 4th engage 8 blitz on the 4th consecutive first down and there is no one home deep to take the angle on my RB and he is gone to the house. God, that was irritating. Don't get me wrong, I love racking up 400+ rushing yards as much as the next guy, but I want to do it realistically, so it is more rewarding.

So anyway, that is my biggest concern.

[blkrptnt819]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

And you can do that yourself. Other people who want to have some ridiculous offense that ranges from a 5 wide set to the flexbone shouldn't be limited.

Yes, Exactly! U can control your own sim experience if u so choose but don't limit ppl who pay their hard earned money.

[mikehud]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

Really? i disagree with that. The box i play in is called SIM... and you don't see Texas Tech running the flexbone mixed in with their spread. You don't see Standford running wishbone sets or the Maryland I.

The extra layer needed is "style". You should have to designate a "style" that limits the formations you can choose from... I'm not saying you couldn't have some option stuff in there as a spread team.. but it should be very limited selection.

Again, all my opinion.

I kind of disagree with you. For instance, the NE Patriots will come out one play in a shotgun spread formation with 5 WR, then next play hit you with a three TE look, or multiple RB's. the reason this shouldn't be limited is that it's a game. in real life, teams may be limited by theire personnel. in a fantasy world, i don't think that should be limited.

[blkrptnt819]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. & 15 Def. Playboo

thanks rynoaid you beat me to it.

while 40 formations is only 20% of avail, lot of plays are the same concept out of a slightly different alignment. i'm sure there are a good 15 iso plays.

however i would like to see that additional filter and force some kind of range limit of playbooks. If you chose a style 70 percent of the playbook match that style. i mean a pass off can still have pistol, one back ect and even have a few different style formations.

I would like to see If you choose multiple playbook style then you are limited to 3 or 4 formations from each parent group,(shotgun, wishbone, pistol, i form, ace, ect...)

as a note uconn, ucla, utah st, illin, mich st, miami had the most diverse playbooks with only a max of 6 different formation types. and miami had the most formations at 23. The avg was like about 4 different parent formation types.

ncaa 11 parent formation types:

ace
empty
far
flexbone
i form
jumbo
Maryland
pistol
power I
shotgun
split
strong
weak
wishbone

That defeats the purpose. What if I want a refined version on LSU's multi? Then what? I can't have it because it doesn't ft in a methodology? That ain't right! (Mike Gundy Voice)

[blkrptnt819]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

Create a playbook and put any formation you want but you should still have some type of base line. why because thats football. if the battle cry is EA needs to be more realistic, sim or whatever we want to call it.

Then having :

3 wishbone,
6 flexbone,
5 pistol,
10 shotgun
8 I
6 ace
2 empty

formations in the same playbook is about as bad as any animation, slide, warp or suction block in terms of realism.

Now it is a game and you should be able to make them and use them as you wish in single player. but in an od or online we should stick to a more realistic approach to playbooks.

Anybody who has ever played football knows there is no way you could implement the offense i listed above with any kind of realistic success of execution. There is a reason you dont see real teams diversfy to this extreme. Utah st, uconn and UCLA have very diverse formation sets but even they dont go that far out of their base approach.

Tht's not the point. Ppl can have pieces and parts of whatever offense the want especially in dynasty! My playbook is mostly based off pro looks but it will be a lot of pistol with some spread principles. Also I will diversify my redzone looks.