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  • illwill10
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    • Mar 2009
    • 19836

    #91
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

    I agree that it would be unsim to have formations that doesnt match. Especially if a person uses it online.
    My Run Playbook wont have any Air Raid plays, 5 wide sets, complicated passing plays. I will have alot of running formation(no wishbone or triple optionS). I willl formations like Maryland I, House, Full House, I forms and Shot gun(mostly run plays).
    But I feel if a person buys a game, they can do what they want. They could have Wing T and 5 Wides only. Mainly because I will never play them anyway. I dont play Online at all and dont plan too

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    • rollinphat
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      • May 2003
      • 476

      #92
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

      I really don't see what the problem is.
      If your in a sim league then your still going to be in a sim league, because that's what you and everybody else in your league wants to do. If your not in a sim league then you can create whatever your heart desires. This is about you the user being able to create whatever offense you want instead of having to settle for something that is the closest to what you want to do. This feature is long over due.

      I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it
      hahaahahaha

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      • smace767
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        • Apr 2009
        • 290

        #93
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

        Originally posted by mattbooty
        I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook.

        College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week.

        Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awareness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well. Look at Cam Newton... Auburn ran a very limited playbook because he was just incapable of knowing a large number of plays, but was so athletically gifted they had to keep him on the field.
        we had discussion about playbook size and diversity along with gameplan and practice here http://www.thegamingtailgate.com/for...laybooks/page6
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        • The JareBear
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          • Jul 2010
          • 11560

          #94
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

          Originally posted by mattbooty
          I'm sort of with some of the other guys in thinking this could take a lot of realism out of the game. I'm not complaining about it, I think custom playbooks are great, I'm just concerned they are allowing too many different / diverse formations into a playbook.

          College teams' gameday playbooks are much smaller than even the playbooks we use in NCAA 11. Normally a team will have a playbook about the size of NCAA 11 (but based on a certain philosophy or style) and then based on the team they play each week they trim it down. The reason is that the players (being college kids and of a wide variety of skill levels, this is not the pros) are just incapable of learning a huge playbook with various sets and styles and be able to accurately run them each week.

          Now, I would be all for allowing a wide range of formations in a custom playbook IF there was some sort of awareness penalty or practice schedule... essentially during the week in a dynasty have to select X number of formations to practice and any other formations you take an awareness hit when you call them in that week's game. Just brainstorming but that would make this realistic... so if you run all of your plays out of similar formations that fit your team's style, you get no awareness loss each week but you have a less diverse offense, and vice versa you could have a wildly diverse playbook to try to catch your opponent off guard but your players are unable to run all of those plays consistently well. Look at Cam Newton... Auburn ran a very limited playbook because he was just incapable of knowing a large number of plays, but was so athletically gifted they had to keep him on the field.
          This makes a lot of sense, the practice points idea is golden.

          This year we will probably have to just deal with the sandbox freedom of the customs but maybe next year they could implement a system like this.
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          • godylla
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            • Jan 2009
            • 305

            #95
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

            Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?
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            • The JareBear
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              • Jul 2010
              • 11560

              #96
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

              Originally posted by godylla
              Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?
              No, unfortunately
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              • rollinphat
                Rookie
                • May 2003
                • 476

                #97
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                Originally posted by godylla
                Is there a "Playbook Share" like a "Roster Share"?
                no...not at this time.
                your playbook is associated with your user profile.

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                • mattbooty
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                  • Feb 2009
                  • 160

                  #98
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                  Originally posted by rollinphat
                  I really don't see what the problem is.
                  If your in a sim league then your still going to be in a sim league, because that's what you and everybody else in your league wants to do. If your not in a sim league then you can create whatever your heart desires. This is about you the user being able to create whatever offense you want instead of having to settle for something that is the closest to what you want to do. This feature is long over due.

                  I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it
                  hahaahahaha
                  Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc...

                  I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.

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                  • floppychulo
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 70

                    #99
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                    This is a major announcement and some folks are more concerned about what type of playbook the next guy will have instead of focusing on their own playbook. I don't understand that, lol...

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                    • rollinphat
                      Rookie
                      • May 2003
                      • 476

                      #100
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                      just for discussions sake...
                      I think it would cool if your playbook was tied to your QB's awareness rating.
                      The higher your QB's awareness rating is the more formations and plays you could have in your playbook.

                      Same for the MLB on defense.

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                      • mpeischl
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                        • Apr 2011
                        • 5

                        #101
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                        Originally posted by mattbooty
                        Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc...

                        I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.
                        I don't understand what is so unrealistic about that. Every team in America has vastly different formations in their playbook. And personally, the only two formations that seem really out of the ordinary are the flex and wishbone- you could find the rest in the playbook of any pro-I team in America. The only teams that you don't see all those sets from are spread teams and even they have those sets in their playbook, they just aren't used often (if at all).

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                        • jello1717
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                          • Feb 2006
                          • 5721

                          #102
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                          Originally posted by mattbooty
                          Originally posted by rollinphat
                          I guess the Air Force playbook is unrealistic since it has shotgun, i form and flexbone in it
                          hahaahahaha
                          Not at all. That is 3 formations. With this though you could create a playbooks that has a dozen vastly different formations (not just different versions of a formation like shotgun big, trips, 4 wide, etc) like shotgun, i form, flexbone, wishbone, pistol, ace, pro set, strong i, etc...

                          I'm not arguing that one way is better than the other, I'm just saying for my opinion I like the game to try to stay as true to real college football as possible, and it would be nice if there was some sort of penalty for getting unrealistic with crazy playbooks... not eliminate the opportunity to create them, but add a negative effect for doing it. It would add some strategy to it.
                          Actually Air Force has 4 types of formations, Ace, I, Flex, Shotgun and it's one of the most diverse playbooks in the game. The only one (that I can think of) that's more diverse is Utah State with Ace, Flex, I, Pistol, SG, Wishbone.
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                          • HogWild63
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                            • May 2011
                            • 2

                            #103
                            Originally posted by Roggie
                            Time for me to make my dream Pistol playbook.
                            I know I love the Pistol Offense and can't wait to make a playbook with all the pistol formations in it!!!! Plus i really want to try out the new pistol formations such as full house and the train formations!!!
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                            • illwill10
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 19836

                              #104
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

                              I probably wont even need over 5-7 formations for each playbook. I will try to have a diverse run playbook. But I will have a lot of plays.

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                              • 44drob
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                                • Oct 2010
                                • 848

                                #105
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Custom Playbooks, 40 Total Formations, 15 Off. and 15 Def. Playb

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