Madden NFL 12 Franchise Mode Details, More Coming Monday (IGN)

[Smoke316]

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I love the fact madden comes out Aug 30th. For me itll signify the end of summer along with Labor Day. Now we dont have to wait that long to have the proper rosters to start our franchises with. Man its been a while since I really played offline franchise like that only because there wasnt anything drawing me to come back game after game. The reintroduction of player roles will bring back that PS2 madden franchise feel i really missed. That unpredicability has been missing but from the looks of things it looks to be back on track.

I liked the potential rating however i think with the roles you dont really need the actual rating anymore. I know Gms in my franchise would just go after A and B rated players which undermined the entire franchise with one team having 16 A rated players with 90+ ratings lol. I could see with the Player Roles certain potentials fitting into those roles, That way we dont need to see the actual rating at all.

I like where this is going. Looks like ill have a lotta reading to do in the office tommorow lol

[Smoke316]

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See, I don't have a problem with people saying this. Innovation is a lot different than "bringing back a feature". It is true that implementing a feature that was on last gen games is not innovative, but other than the initial design process, it takes just as much effort to develop an old idea as it does a new one. My logic is that if it was a good idea last gen, then I have no problem with them putting it in this game. To be honest, if you had asked me after M11 what feature from a past gen game I would want in this game it would have been player roles. I am sure others feel differently, but I liked the feature.

I understand the whole innovation thing but honestly lets just have a franchise that works, is functional and keeps us as fans coming back week after week. Sometimes when they try to get cute with features and all that the foundation gets neglected you know? So i have no issue with the "going back to basics" kinda thing. It was when they had player roles and Owner Mode when franchise had that RPG feel to it almost that made me come back game after game.

[jmurphy31]

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I know this is a long shot, but do you think they will talk about weather in franchise in the blog? Like last year when it always rained or snowed in the same game every year no matter what. Hopefully this year there is some variation to the weather.

[43M]

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I used to play online franchise.....too time consuming...too many quitting of other guys...schedules NEVER lining up....it became a chore, really.

I think more folks playing offline than online franchise...EA has data to prove that opinion

I'm glad they focused offline.....sorry to hear your bummed...it is what it is

This is exactly right.

While I do think the concept of online franchises are cool, all those factors are huge reasons why most online franchises go belly up or get lame. Lack of time or people losing interest.

This sums it up pretty well IMO...

Online franchises revolve around 32 (or how many ever you have) people.

Offline franchise revolves around one person.

Dont get me wrong, if you have 32 (or whatever) people that have the same schedules, alot of free time, and the desire to play it that much, then an online franchise would be amazing. But more often than not, thats not the case. Im willing to bet there are more online franchises that fail than those that even go a complete season.

On top of that, some dont have internet connectivity, or at least its not that good or dependable. And what if something like the PSN debacle happens again?

Again...I hope online franchise is great, but even if I were a huge fan of both, Id much prefer offline, because it revolves around my schedule.

[Thinking Out Loud]

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This is exactly right.

While I do think the concept of online franchises are cool, all those factors are huge reasons why most online franchises go belly up or get lame. Lack of time or people losing interest.

This sums it up pretty well IMO...

Online franchises revolve around 32 (or how many ever you have) people.

Offline franchise revolves around one person.

Dont get me wrong, if you have 32 (or whatever) people that have the same schedules, alot of free time, and the desire to play it that much, then an online franchise would be amazing. But more often than not, thats not the case. Im willing to bet there are more online franchises that fail than those that even go a complete season.

On top of that, some dont have internet connectivity, or at least its not that good or dependable. And what if something like the PSN debacle happens again?

Again...I hope online franchise is great, but even if I were a huge fan of both, Id much prefer offline, because it revolves around my schedule.

I was just going to ignore the requests for offline franchise to be improved "before" online franchise but I just can't hold my peace! LOL

Please, PLEASE, stop pretending as if these modes currently being separate, makes any sense. NCAA has a college franchise mode called Dynasty mode and it is ONE mode that can be played online or offline. That's what Madden franchise should be and hopefully will be this year.

Regardless of if you love playing offline for whatever reason or hate playing online for whatever reason, it should just be ONE franchise mode.

[Still2REal]

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WOW, So they basically add in features that are EXTREMELY SIMILAR to what they had in the past, use new descriptive words, ignore online franchise (apparently), and this is the new commitment?

I've never understood the excitement about practice squads. What's the big deal about adding a few more low rated players to your roster. 99% of practice sqaud people are bums, that's why they aren't on the regular roster.

Maybe tomorrow will prove me wrong, but none of these features seem like a big deal to me

[Hooe]

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I was just going to ignore the requests for offline franchise to be improved "before" online franchise but I just can't hold my peace! LOL

Please, PLEASE, stop pretending as if these modes currently being separate, makes any sense. NCAA has a college franchise mode called Dynasty mode and it is ONE mode that can be played online or offline. That's what Madden franchise should be and hopefully will be this year.

Regardless of if you love playing offline for whatever reason or hate playing online for whatever reason, it should just be ONE franchise mode.

Online franchise can't quite work the same way as online dynasty does. The two particular events preventing this involve more live elements, that being the NFL Draft and, specifically for Madden 12, free agent bidding.

To elaborate: every action in NCAA's online dynasty can be broken up into discrete steps that doesn't require each player to be online simultaneously to perform; for example, recruiting is broken up into five stages in the offseason, each team puts in its plan independently, and then the game runs the results. This can't be done for the NFL Draft; all the players must be allowed to be present simultaneously to do it due to the dynamic nature of the event. Same with the new free agent bidding system. To Madden's credit, one of the things the existing online franchise does in fact have is a draft mechanism where all players can join and leave as they please while the draft operates.

In short, it's a separate but related set of technical challenges that's different enough for it to be its own game mode. Not to say I wouldn't like to see it done, however, I absolutely do.

[BlueNGold]

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WOW, So they basically add in features that are EXTREMELY SIMILAR to what they had in the past, use new descriptive words, ignore online franchise (apparently), and this is the new commitment?

I've never understood the excitement about practice squads. What's the big deal about adding a few more low rated players to your roster. 99% of practice sqaud people are bums, that's why they aren't on the regular roster.

Maybe tomorrow will prove me wrong, but none of these features seem like a big deal to me

1) They've paid enough attention to online users over the years. It's about time offline players get some love.

2) Way to assume they haven't done anything to OF when they haven't even spoken about online or the rest of franchise mode yet.

3) Dynamic Player Progression, live FA bidding, expanded rosters, etc. were never in last-gen. Just because they added Player Roles that they had in PS2 Madden 07 (something pretty much every franchise user has wanted) doesn't mean the world is on fire and this is somehow a bad thing, so people need to stop with that ****. The ones complaining that an old feature is returning are the EXACT same ones that would be bitching if it wasn't.

4) People want practice squads because -- surprise! -- they wanted realism and want their franchise mode to resemble the real NFL.

5) Just because these features aren't a big deal to you, doesn't mean they aren't to a lot of other people.

[Bedpan_Gamer]

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Dynamic weather is a must.

Playing in rain in Jacksonville in week 3 no matter what year, what season.... or snow in the playoffs in Cleveland last year was a joke of all jokes and is pure plum dog laziness on a developer's part. And something they never addressed as to why they cut corners on.

LOL @ integration with The Weather channel (or lack of)

[Hooe]

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Dynamic weather is a must.

Playing in rain in Jacksonville in week 3 no matter what year, what season.... or snow in the playoffs in Cleveland last year was a joke of all jokes and is pure plum dog laziness on a developer's part. And something they never addressed as to why they cut corners on.

LOL @ integration with The Weather channel (or lack of)

I don't see how the lack of dynamic weather is "laziness" on the part of EA Tiburon. It's not like they can just plug evolving weather during games into the game in a blink of an eye.

What other sports video game to this point has even had dynamic weather, anyway? As far as I know, FIFA doesn't have it, NCAA doesn't, and neither of the MLB games do. Point is, it's not easy to do and the developers chose to spend their resources elsewhere.

[TLF]

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I don't see how the lack of dynamic weather is "laziness" on the part of EA Tiburon. It's not like they can just plug evolving weather during games into the game in a blink of an eye.

What other sports video game to this point has even had dynamic weather, anyway? As far as I know, FIFA doesn't have it, NCAA doesn't, and neither of the MLB games do. Point is, it's not easy to do and the developers chose to spend their resources elsewhere.

to be Honest i never Noticed that


i just want them to get each Stadium's wetaher correct

like the Fog in Philly and the New Meadowlands and the Rainy Snow in Philly


and the snow better be in full effect in Chicago and Green Bay

[roadman]

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to be Honest i never Noticed that


i just want them to get each Stadium's wetaher correct

like the Fog in Philly and the New Meadowlands and the Rainy Snow in Philly


and the snow better be in full effect in Chicago and Green Bay

Eh, it doesn't always snow in December in the windy city or the frozen tundra. Snow is over-rated in December around here. January, more likely.

[Bellsprout]

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I don't think it's actually snowed in Green Bay during a game since the Playoff game against Seattle in '08.

I could be wrong on that, but snow games aren't as common here as people seem to think.

[Texans80AJ]

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To be honest the "player roles" thing scares me. They say there are 20+....OK..well there are 52 people on a football team so that means basically each role will be doubled on a team? Obviously you control what role you sign but from the roles they have shown there isnt much room for just regular guys. It's either stud, projected stuf, old guy, or flop.

Also, I would prefer more of a team chemistry aspect. What do these player roles even mean? If my guy has a role of "Franchise QB"...So what? does that mean he will automatically be good? I guess I just don't really seee the direction that these roles are supposed to take the game. Sounds like a gimmick to me.

[illwill10]

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I cant wait till tomorrow. I thin the blogs will be released at separate times. I think the SS blog will be released first. I think the blogs will be released arounf 12-5pm tomorrow