NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

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  • SkinsBoYee
    Pro
    • Feb 2003
    • 793

    #31
    To not make this an actual playable camera when we have been screaming for this for the past 5 years is simply a slap in the face? Not Playable???? Wake up!
    I drink to make other people interesting.

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    • billysims
      Pro
      • Jul 2003
      • 593

      #32
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

      Finally...

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      • arobbi3
        Rookie
        • Mar 2010
        • 92

        #33
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

        Originally posted by SkinsBoYee
        To not make this an actual playable camera when we have been screaming for this for the past 5 years is simply a slap in the face? Not Playable???? Wake up!
        I'm not sure how you expect the broadcast cam to be remotely playable... You won't be able to see all of your receivers, You won't be able to hit holes correctly while running the ball, and how exactly are you going to make field goals?

        I HATE the broadcast cam style they put in RTG on field goals/punts. I don't know why anyone would want to play an entire game that way. The main camera used now has its faults, don't get me wrong, but I just don't understand the frustration for not being able to play with the broadcast cam angle.
        If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you.

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        • billysims
          Pro
          • Jul 2003
          • 593

          #34
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

          Oh wait. Didnt catch the nuance: this view is only available to you in Coach Mode. In other words: not a playable mode where you control the action.

          Better than nothing, but would prefer full playability from BC cam.

          Sounds like another feature being held back until next year.

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          • Scrapps
            Pro
            • Jan 2006
            • 825

            #35
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

            Originally posted by arobbi3
            I'm not sure how you expect the broadcast cam to be remotely playable... You won't be able to see all of your receivers, You won't be able to hit holes correctly while running the ball, and how exactly are you going to make field goals?

            I HATE the broadcast cam style they put in RTG on field goals/punts. I don't know why anyone would want to play an entire game that way. The main camera used now has its faults, don't get me wrong, but I just don't understand the frustration for not being able to play with the broadcast cam angle.
            Yet its playable in Madden. While this may not be your preferred angle of play, why not give the users more options? The fact that after 5 or 6 years on current gen, there is only one playable camera angle, is a disgrace.

            Hell, Joe Montana Football on the Sega Genesis, had multiple playable camera angles.
            Last edited by Scrapps; 05-19-2011, 09:16 AM.

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            • billysims
              Pro
              • Jul 2003
              • 593

              #36
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

              Originally posted by arobbi3
              I'm not sure how you expect the broadcast cam to be remotely playable... You won't be able to see all of your receivers, You won't be able to hit holes correctly while running the ball, and how exactly are you going to make field goals?

              I HATE the broadcast cam style they put in RTG on field goals/punts. I don't know why anyone would want to play an entire game that way. The main camera used now has its faults, don't get me wrong, but I just don't understand the frustration for not being able to play with the broadcast cam angle.

              For me, its playing it as if I were watching a TV broadcast. Simple.

              Granted, it's not for everyone. There are alot of guys (those who post and I would imagine those who dont) who enjoy playing from that angle. To each his own.

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              • Special27K
                Pro
                • Feb 2009
                • 554

                #37
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                OT: About the watching real games via those wire cams... Anyone remember like two or three years ago when ESPN showed a UNC vs Duke basketball game on ESPN and on ESPN2 they had like 9 different angles (exaggeration more like 5)? I'd be curious why they never did this for anything else, like a slow Saturday when The U isn't used for another game and do that?
                GT: TheHippySteve

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                • arobbi3
                  Rookie
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 92

                  #38
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                  Originally posted by billysims
                  For me, its playing it as if I were watching a TV broadcast. Simple.

                  Granted, it's not for everyone. There are alot of guys (those who post and I would imagine those who dont) who enjoy playing from that angle. To each his own.
                  I get having the option to play with BC. I hope they do implement it in the future for those who prefer it.I did sound kind of like a jerk, wasn't trying to be or flame.

                  And wow, I watched a video of someone playing with BC.. It would take me ages to get used to playing football sideways..
                  If for any reason you're not completely satisfied, I hate you.

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                  • Agent 007
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2011
                    • 140

                    #39
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                    Originally posted by arobbi3
                    I get having the option to play with BC. I hope they do implement it in the future for those who prefer it.I did sound kind of like a jerk, wasn't trying to be or flame.

                    And wow, I watched a video of someone playing with BC.. It would take me ages to get used to playing football sideways..
                    No it wouldn't. Chances are if you're a member of the OS NCAA community you're probably a die-hard NCAA gamer and have years of experience playing the game. Took me no time to learn. You'd be kicking tail in no time

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                    • billysims
                      Pro
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 593

                      #40
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                      Originally posted by arobbi3
                      I get having the option to play with BC. I hope they do implement it in the future for those who prefer it.I did sound kind of like a jerk, wasn't trying to be or flame.

                      And wow, I watched a video of someone playing with BC.. It would take me ages to get used to playing football sideways..
                      No worries, bro. Didnt take it that way. We're all game fans @ the end of the day!

                      You might be surprised if you tried it. All I know is that when they had multiple angles available, that was my favorite to play from.

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                      • shyvoodoo
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 277

                        #41
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                        Originally posted by arobbi3
                        I'm not sure how you expect the broadcast cam to be remotely playable... You won't be able to see all of your receivers, You won't be able to hit holes correctly while running the ball, and how exactly are you going to make field goals?

                        I HATE the broadcast cam style they put in RTG on field goals/punts. I don't know why anyone would want to play an entire game that way. The main camera used now has its faults, don't get me wrong, but I just don't understand the frustration for not being able to play with the broadcast cam angle.
                        Well, for one it makes you rely more on timing your receivers routes and makes you do your defensive reads in 2-4 seconds like real QB's.
                        I found playing this angle:
                        1. eliminated the "30 yard drop" and "scramble from sideline to sideline" type of
                        gameplay. I know madden players who hate this angle because of the fact that you cant just drop back and heave ho.
                        2. makes the passing game more fun and realistic to play. Instead of just "drop and pop", now you have to really rely on timing.
                        3. Makes the player learn how to read defenses better.

                        To each his own though..

                        ben
                        voodoo

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                        • Agent 007
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2011
                          • 140

                          #42
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                          Originally posted by shyvoodoo
                          Well, for one it makes you rely more on timing your receivers routes and makes you do your defensive reads in 2-4 seconds like real QB's.
                          I found playing this angle:
                          1. eliminated the "30 yard drop" and "scramble from sideline to sideline" type of
                          gameplay. I know madden players who hate this angle because of the fact that you cant just drop back and heave ho.
                          2. makes the passing game more fun and realistic to play. Instead of just "drop and pop", now you have to really rely on timing.
                          3. Makes the player learn how to read defenses better.

                          To each his own though..

                          ben
                          voodoo
                          This +10. It's called preference. It's the same reason why not everyone drives the same type of vehicle or wears the same type of clothes. We want to enjoy the game with a different camera angle.

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                          • billysims
                            Pro
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 593

                            #43
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                            Good point voodoo.

                            One thing that was a feature in one of the PC games back in the day (I think maybe it was Operation Sports Football or something like that) was a picture-in-picture feature. You would drop back, hit a button to cycle through receivers to see how open they were (or weren't). It was a small window in the corner of the screen that would pop up. Made it an awful lot like reading receivers and deciding where to go with the ball.

                            Now THAT would be a great feature for the future. Would really ramp up the realism factor when throwing the ball.

                            Food for thought...

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                            • Teddy_Long
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2458

                              #44
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                              it's very easy to throw deep passing routes on broadcast cam. u just have to watch whether or not the receiver has a step on the DB 1st 10 yards. at the same time, locate whether S will come up or play deep. it's very simple--not hard at all. it's great playing human vs cpu.

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                              • Agent 007
                                Banned
                                • Mar 2011
                                • 140

                                #45
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Video - Brand New Coach Cam Discussion

                                Originally posted by Teddy_Long
                                it's very easy to throw deep passing routes on broadcast cam. u just have to watch whether or not the receiver has a step on the DB 1st 10 yards. at the same time, locate whether S will come up or play deep. it's very simple--not hard at all. it's great playing human vs cpu.
                                In other words, what happens in real life.

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