Presting Rating for Coaches NCAA 12

[PikeJR23]

We should start rating each teams head coaches now so that we can have a thread where we can just edit the Presting ratings when the game drops. I know its early but if we start now we can debate on the ratings so that we can get a close consensus on each coach.

I'll start it off with a couple (judging from the screens the ratings are numbers based but show as a grade):

Nick Saban - Alabama HC (Prestige: 94-98) A+....obviously one of the best coaches in football

Lane Kiffin - USC HC (Prestige: 80-85) B- or B+....new to the college game but doing well in recruiting and has NFL experience.

Will Muschamp - UF HC (75-80) C+ or B-...new head coach, highly respected coordinator.

Charlie Weiss - UF OC (75-80) C+ or B-...yes he was a HC so maybe he should be higher, but judging his lack of success recruiting hurts him. Still a highly respected coordinator.

Mario Cristobal - FIU HC (60-68) D or D+...he's on the rise but not quite getting looks from the major schools yet.

edit: can a mod change the title to Prestige instead of presting

[Hooe]

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Let's do the whole ACC for fun.

Boston College - Frank Spaziani - B-. I'm going to be honest, I don't really know a whole lot about Spaziani.

Clemson - Dabo Swinney - C+. Swinney hasn't done a whole lot since taking over for Tommy Bowden, and his team went sub-.500 last season.

Duke - David Cutcliffe - C/C+. He continues to get the most that he can out of the Duke program, and at one point was a pretty well-established offensive coordinator.

Florida State - Jimbo Fisher - B+. Fisher has not only survived the transition period from Bobby Bowden, but he's positioned Florida State back into the forefront of the conscience of college football. Big things are expected of the Seminoles this season.

Georgia Tech - Paul Johnson - B+. Johnson's option system is well-established in Atlanta now, and he's enjoyed a surprising amount of success with it. He won the ACC in 2009.

Maryland - Randy Edsall - C+. Got UConn, of all teams, to a BCS bowl. On the first year on the job at Maryland.

Miami - Al Golden - C+/B-. He had great success at Temple, can he translate that to Da U, however?

North Carolina - Butch Davis - B+. Davis can build programs, obviously, but some question his gameday coaching.

North Carolina State - Tom O'Brien - B. O'Brien was solid at Boston College, and after two subpar seasons in Raleigh appears to have turned the Wolfpack around.

Virginia - Mike London - C+. London obviously can recruit, as evidenced by a Top 25 recruiting class for the Class of 2011. He needs to get more results on the field in his second year, however, before I can rank my guy any higher.

Virginia Tech - Frank Beamer - A. Not an A+ because he's not won a national title, but he's one of the more well-recognized head coaches in college football for certain, certainly the most-recognized head coach in the conference.

Wake Forest - Jim Grobe - C/C+. He's had a reasonable amount of success, but not a whole lot lately.

[theohiostbuckeye]

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Is there a N/A rating for the Bucks coach?

[dan_457]

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Is there a N/A rating for the Bucks coach?

If were going by pure recruiting, and on the field results, he's no doubt an A+. Now off the field, that is a different matter.

Also APF 2k8
I think you're ratings are too lenient. No way should Jimbo be an A after only one season. Dan Mullen is another that comes to mid, he's good, but not A- worthy. Same for gundy, and others as well. I think A's entirely should be reserved for only the best coaches, who have proven there worth over multiple seasons

[speedy43]

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Joe Pa has to be A+

[greasyindiekid]

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A+:
Stoops (no homer)
Saban
??Tressel??
Joe Pa

A:
Jimbo (borderline A+, I think he's Saban-lite)
Mack Brown (say what you want about recruiting, but he just went 5-7)
Les
Beamer
Chip Kelly
Chizik
Gary Patterson
Chris Peterson
Muschamp
Mark Richt
Spurrier

A-:
Dan Mullen
Bobby Petrino
Kiffin
Nueheisel
Brian Kelly
Kirk Ferrentz
Jim Bielema
Mark D'Antonio
Mike Gundy
Gary Pinkel
Bo Pelini
Butch Davis
Paul Johnson

I think you need an MRI if you think rick neuheisel is anywhere close to being ranked as an A- coach. The guy is gone after this year and done nothing at UCLA. Jimbo Fisher has potential, but again... Is not an A coach right now. He doesn't deserve it.

[volstopfan14]

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My Opinion on the SEC
ALABAMA: Nick Saban: (A+) In my opinion, the best coach in college football
ARKANSAS: Bobby Petrino (B+) He's been very sucsessful at Louisville and Arkansas
AUBURN: Gene Chizik (B) I think he's overrated but he did win a national championship.
FLORIDA: Will Muschamp (B-) Sucsessful as a coordinator but unproven as a head coach.
GEORGIA: Mark Richt (B+) He's done well at Georgia although I don't see him staying there much longer.
KENTUCKY: Joker Phillips (C) I don't think Joker is that good of a coach. Kentucky isn't getting any better.
LSU: Les Miles (B+) The luckiest coach in America but he keeps on winning.
OLE MISS: Houston Nutt (C+) He's an OK coach, but Ole Miss seems to be going downhill fast.
MISSISSIPPI STATE: Dan Mullen (B) Has the Bulldogs headed in the right direction.
SOUTH CAROLINA: Steve Spurrier (B+) An extremely succsessful coach, although his USC teams aren't as good as his Florida teams.
TENNESSEE: Derek Dooley (B-) I really think Dooley will be extremely succsessful for Tennessee.
VANDERBILT: James Franklin (C-) I'm not really sure why Vanderbilt hired him.

BONUS
USC: Lane Kiffin (F) seriously, I would rate him a B

[franch1se]

Re: Presting Rating for Coaches NCAA 12

There needs to be separate categories. Like for Kiffin, I'd give him a B or B- for coaching but A for recruiting.

[volstopfan14]

Re: Presting Rating for Coaches NCAA 12

There needs to be separate categories. Like for Kiffin, I'd give him a B or B- for coaching but A for recruiting.

I agree. I think that we will see ratings for coaches. In the screenshots it says page 1 of 3 on the edit coaches picture so I think there will be more than just the prestige rating.

[blkrptnt819]

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My Opinion on the SEC
ALABAMA: Nick Saban: (A+) In my opinion, the best coach in college football
ARKANSAS: Bobby Petrino (B+) He's been very sucsessful at Louisville and Arkansas
AUBURN: Gene Chizik (B) I think he's overrated but he did win a national championship.
FLORIDA: Will Muschamp (B-) Sucsessful as a coordinator but unproven as a head coach.
GEORGIA: Mark Richt (B+) He's done well at Georgia although I don't see him staying there much longer.
KENTUCKY: Joker Phillips (C) I don't think Joker is that good of a coach. Kentucky isn't getting any better.
LSU: Les Miles (B+) The luckiest coach in America but he keeps on winning.
OLE MISS: Houston Nutt (C+) He's an OK coach, but Ole Miss seems to be going downhill fast.
MISSISSIPPI STATE: Dan Mullen (B) Has the Bulldogs headed in the right direction.
SOUTH CAROLINA: Steve Spurrier (B+) An extremely succsessful coach, although his USC teams aren't as good as his Florida teams.
TENNESSEE: Derek Dooley (B-) I really think Dooley will be extremely succsessful for Tennessee.
VANDERBILT: James Franklin (C-) I'm not really sure why Vanderbilt hired him.

BONUS
USC: Lane Kiffin (F) seriously, I would rate him a B

Did u give Les Miles a B+?!?!? He deserves an A- and so does Spurrier. They are upper echelon.

[xcrushx]

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Frank Beamer: A (Possibly A- depending on the ratings of some of the other coaches) He's one of the best coaches in the country but just can't seem to put it all together. Great at evaluating talent and getting the most out of his players. Struggles in big games against Top 5 teams. Has been very loyal to his staff (perhaps a little too loyal).

Mike London: C (Possibly C+) Good recruiter but very unproven on the field. He's a players coach who is very inspirational. Has everything going for him except the X's and O's. Has a lot of upside but also a very risky hire. Is youthful so has time to develop into a great college coach.

[sparkdawg777]

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There needs to be separate categories. Like for Kiffin, I'd give him a B or B- for coaching but A for recruiting.

I agree too, this is why ratings are so important. A lot of coaches are only great in certain areas, that's why we need ratings for...

-Recruiting
-Charisma
-Offense (Should be split up by positions: QB, RB, WR, OL)
-Defense (DL, LB, DB)
-Special Teams

I'm sure there are a few more, these were off the top of my head.

There are only a few coaches who are great in all these areas.


EDIT: Also if you have ratings that plays a large part in choosing your assistants. If you're a Defensive mind you could get away with hiring an above average DC who can recruit or has great charisma, while at the same time you better get a good OC whose best attributes are Offense.

[PikeJR23]

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I agree. I think that we will see ratings for coaches. In the screenshots it says page 1 of 3 on the edit coaches picture so I think there will be more than just the prestige rating.

I just noticed that too...there may be a offensive and defensive rating for each coach or it could just be their offensive and defensive playbooks (more likely).

[sparkdawg777]

Re: Presting Rating for Coaches NCAA 12

I just noticed that too...there may be a offensive and defensive rating for each coach or it could just be their offensive and defensive playbooks (more likely).

I hope it's ratings but I have a feeling that it will only be the offensive and defensive playbooks? I might and hope I'm wrong but it seems like coach prestige is the only thing important (just according to the screenshots with the list of coaches).

[volstopfan14]

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Did u give Les Miles a B+?!?!? He deserves an A- and so does Spurrier. They are upper echelon.

I'd be more for spreading out the ratings but looking at it now, I would agree that Miles and Spurrier need to be a bit higher.

I just noticed that too...there may be a offensive and defensive rating for each coach or it could just be their offensive and defensive playbooks (more likely).

I don't see them creating two pages just for a playbook. Maybe I'm wrong