Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

[PaperBoyx703]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

This is the first year implementing it and I for one am impressed with what they have given us for a first attempt. 2k8 was not, I repeat, not a first attempt that was going from 2k4 with the search for a job then built up to what it was in 2k8.

Its way better than just a job search for a first attempt and with the inclusion of DC/OC no one expected they would get into that at all and we got it. With all the overall improvements and new features and new RTG the game is going to be a really fresh experience, then NCAA 13 and 14 is where expectations for CC can be higher but for first year implementation this is a good attempt.

But then we got select people with these High expectations based of a game's(2k8) CC that people passed around as a first attempt when it clearly was being worked on since 2k4.

Its really funny to see.

[jeremym480]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

I'm gonna be 100% real about this. EA plain and simple is lazy and doesn't want to make a satisfying product. Since there is no competition they don't have to put out a quality Football game. We've seen it with Madden and NCAA. The only reason they put those changes in Madden this year was because their license is about to expire soon. I guarantee the year when 2k can make a College football/NFL game it will be better than anything EA puts out. And as far as the CC goes, it's okay but they should have added so much more. It was the bare minimum but the fact that you can't hire OC/DC is really disapointing and takes the cake. The Coach prestige system needs to be totally redone. They didn't really change anything with that system besides the arrows telling you how you did. It was almost merely the same thing as it was the last 4 years.

The goals for the OC/DC are okay but they can be retuned too, like coordinators actually gaining prestige for having the best Defense/offense in their conference/Nation/or getting a 4,5 star recruit to come to you're school/Top recruiting classes/ or even having a player on you're side of the field projected as a first round pick or winning a award. Something that actually matters in real college football. They also do need to add actually ratings to the coach system. Something along the lines of: Recruiting(Affects how much you're calls and visits sway recruits), Offense, Defense, Prestige. There also needs to be a spring game added to the dynasty mode as a way of really seeing who should be on field playing. (In my opinion there's no excuse as to why this isn't in the game by now. It's really just a modified practice). Senior Bowl games should also be included.


Also this is what really got me fuming and EA is gonna have to fix this but each Coordinator should only recruit their side of the ball instead of recruiting everybody. So basically they stripped you of either controlling the offense/defense but you're gonna do all of the recruiting. So basically they pretty much implemented goals (the arrows pointing in either the negative or the positive), the ability to only play on one side of the field and the ability to still recruit everybody. So most likely, the fellow CPU coaches aren't gonna do any recruiting and you're gonna do all of it. Basically the same features that they've had for the past 5 years. This is real ****ty on EA's part. And everybody on here know EA be on here reading these forums. Just give us what we want in a game. Freaking 2K listened to us about the NBA 2k series and look what it got them. It's a pretty good game even if it isn't perfect. Sadly the day the license is up is the day we will get a good football game.

I agree with some of your post but, the first line stating that EA is lazy is probably one of the more ridiculous things that I've read in awhile. Also, the last line shows your agenda. Good luck with that.

[cts]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

Did someone with the game say it was easy to get a position at a top school? Or is this an assumption based on screenshots, etc.?

[jeremym480]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

Did someone with the game say it was easy to get a position at a top school? Or is this an assumption based on screenshots, etc.?

Seems like pure speculation to me.

If it's not, I'd like to see proof.

[hurricanefootball4]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

If it's not, I'd like to see proof.

Which there won't be, all we have is screenshots and second hand accounts of how it plays out.

We are trying to judge what jobs people should and shouldn't get based on screenshots where we don't see any other data or what goals were fulfilled.

An OC for team that went 3-9 overall still might be a great hire b/c maybe they averaged 40 points a game and their QB threw for 5,000 yards. We aren't able to see stats or goals achieved though so everything at this point is speculatory

[PaperBoyx703]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

I think we have all come to expect everything EA does will have obvious faults. I hate to be like that because I truly beleive the guys working on the game are doing the best tbey can, but their pride gets in the way, or something else does. We, the fans, tell them what we want, so they give us something, but always put an EA twist on it.

We get ESPN presentation, but the replay angles are EA'd and are unrealistic and upset us more than making us happy. Then with the CC they don't add individual ratins which is disappointing, but somewhat understandable, but it also looks like they went their own way and made sure it was accessible and make sure you get one offer every year and it looks like it is easy to get a job. It needs to be like 2k8 where we need to earn our jobs. I am in year 7 and still have not gotten any better offers than a few mid majors in 2k8 which is what we want. We have the ability to choose our favorite teams, so there is no reason to make the CC easy to get the jobs at the top school.

Hey, i think you should watch the IGN video again, because I dont get where it was said you could jump ship to your favorite school automatically or recieve offers to your favorite school. I believe it said you would recieve 3 offers a year from diff schools and you had to "EARN" your way to a top 6/5 star school. It didnt say you could lead North Texas to a 9-3 season and then get and offer from Texas Year 1. because if Texas is succeding they wont fire the coach and offer anyone, if he retires or moves on then they open up and search for coaches and then your still not guaranteed a job.

They even showed in the video that if a change was coming to a 6 star school your name had to be in their top 3 interest to even be considered or and if the school wasnt listed an Alma Mater of you then it would even be harder to get in.

Just watch the video at IGN on the dynasty preview.

[NDAlum]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

Canes,

In 2K you had the option of Open/Closed legacy. You have the option of building your way up or starting out at a big time school. I don't see the problem.

You act as if your POV is the only one. Not everybody wants to play through 7 years to go from Idaho to Maryland.

[tpain2345]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

So all they did was "tune" recruiting? any idea what that means?

[The JareBear]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

Canes,

In 2K you had the option of Open/Closed legacy. You have the option of building your way up or starting out at a big time school. I don't see the problem.

You act as if your POV is the only one. Not everybody wants to play through 7 years to go from Idaho to Maryland.

I agree with you One Thousand Percent on everything you said here.

[The JareBear]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

So all they did was "tune" recruiting? any idea what that means?

I think it means they fixed how the CPU would rexruit 12 QBs and 20 HBs and not recruit to their playstyle? Not positive tho

[hurricanefootball4]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

You act as if your POV is the only one. Not everybody wants to play through 7 years to go from Idaho to Maryland.

Despite the draw of getting very fresh french fries in Idaho, I agree that I don't want to spend 7 years there.

I think it will be balanced, and those that want to make it more difficult can always stay at their school until there is a job that they really are shooting for gets offered.

[cts]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

I think a reasonable solution here would be to have a setting similar to how they added recruiting difficulty levels. Add a setting for how hard it would be to get good job offers.

[Armor and Sword]

Re: Providing Detail and Clarity to Changes Found in NCAA Football 12 Dynasty Mode

Completly and throughly stoked and happy I pre-ordered both NCAA and Madden 12.

This will be the year of the football console game.

Finally!!!

I don't see how you could not be thrilled with all the features being implemented into these games! They are listening. I want the game to be fun too. Not some text sim. I can always play those on a PC. Console gaming must have a big fun factor and that is something EA is good at and IMO NCAA 12 will be the definitve version. I also will go out on a limb and call Madden 12 the Madden we all have waited for on Next Gen.

[canes21]

Re: Coach ratings are not in.

Canes,

In 2K you had the option of Open/Closed legacy. You have the option of building your way up or starting out at a big time school. I don't see the problem.

You act as if your POV is the only one. Not everybody wants to play through 7 years to go from Idaho to Maryland.

That is why I have suggested options. Have something like Casual and Simulation, or Easy, Medium, and Hard. i know not everyone wants to spend 7 years at their first school, but I do, so there should be an option for me to play the game that way. I shouldn't be forced to mke my own set of rules to get what I want out of the CC.

[jwallace0317]

The original post says that "coach prestige will impact results during simulations, and it will still impact recruiting via the 'pitches' previously in the game."

Coach prestige will also impact the ratings progression of your players. This is confirmed in the TGT q&a, as well as the TSO review.