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  • jwilphl
    Legal Advisor
    • Jun 2009
    • 1499

    #136
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

    My thoughts on the this mode are mostly positive. I'm glad it is coming to Dynasty, but to me it seems that this is the only change made to Dynasty (other than custom conferences which are mostly superficial), and that's the problem. It is hardly "the deepest mode" as they advertise it to be.

    I would like to see more differentiation between Coordinators and Head Coaches--it seems like the only differences are the goals you contract for and playing both sides of the ball. I think Coordinators should only be involved in recruiting for their side of the ball, as well, but not exclusively (as the HC still has maximum control). I would also like to see more responsibilities given once you become a head coach so there is a bit more incentive to do so.

    I also think they can take a path similar to RTG and have your coach start on a high school team (perhaps a tie-in after you complete your career as a player?), then based upon your coaching abilities and the way you manage your players/team, you receive offers from various schools--probably low-end at first--to either coach or coordinate. I do understand some concern about just wanting to pick your team, however. This would really connect all the modes in the game.

    Aside from that, as long as the implementation is done well, this should be a fine addition. I'm looking to see that teams behave realistically with their coaches. I can't say I'm a huge fan of the goal system: some of the goals look unrealistic or just unbalanced.

    I'm looking forward to hearing the details on the revamped RTG mode. Hopefully something there can really entice us. They have done some good work this year, and hopefully it sets us up for a future of much-improved football.

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    • themassacre771.1
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      • May 2011
      • 331

      #137
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

      I think the game looks pretty good. My biggest concern was being able to move up really fast and based on that part 2 video that's not going to happen.

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      • Da Hype Iz Real
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        • May 2010
        • 115

        #138
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

        Originally posted by justblaze09
        Wait, you want coaches to ultimately be able to develop their players 4-5 pts a year. That's 16-20 pts a career, and you end up with rosters we have now (which I think it too overrated).
        Well that would make recruiting 3 star and lower prospects a more viable option when you don''t need starters right then.
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        • TheBrothers24
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          • Sep 2007
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          #139
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

          Originally posted by Da Hype Iz Real
          Well that would make recruiting 3 star and lower prospects a more viable option when you don''t need starters right then.
          That also makes every team who gets the first few crops of good recruits a super team once they all progress. Yes, those 3 star and under players will get to progress to high 80's or 90's ovr by the end of their careers but those 5/6 star prestige teams will have backups who will be 95's or better during that same time span.
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          • dan_457
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            • Jan 2010
            • 4106

            #140
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

            Originally posted by justblaze09
            Wait, you want coaches to ultimately be able to develop their players 4-5 pts a year. That's 16-20 pts a career, and you end up with rosters we have now (which I think it too overrated).
            Originally posted by TheBrothers24
            That also makes every team who gets the first few crops of good recruits a super team once they all progress. Yes, those 3 star and under players will get to progress to high 80's or 90's ovr by the end of their careers but those 5/6 star prestige teams will have backups who will be 95's or better during that same time span.
            We already saw what happened when they tried to stretch ratings, it backfired and blew up in their face. They need to leave it as is, they game plays on and off the field better with the higher ratings, overrated or not.
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            • N51_rob
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              • Jul 2003
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              #141
              Originally posted by dan_457
              We already saw what happened when they tried to stretch ratings, it backfired and blew up in their face. They need to leave it as is, they game plays on and off the field better with the higher ratings, overrated or not.
              Somewhere there is a balance to raitings. Stretched was a great idea just poorly implemented.


              I would also like to see the star raiting change through the recruting process. Like in "Meat Market" guys who are only being recruited by for example Western Kentucky might only be a 2 star, but once LSU or Alabama become interested hr magically is a 4 star. That'd how recruiting raitings work anyways.

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              • Kaiser Wilhelm
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                • Sep 2010
                • 2790

                #142
                Re: Coaching Carousel blog is posted!

                Originally posted by sparkdawg777

                I can't believe they are keeping the same recruiting game. It's unrealistic, there shouldn't be random subjects. If it's random it should either be because...

                1) The recruit chose that subject (so he obviously has interest in that pitch)

                2) The coach chooses it (which is the gamble to see if the recruit is interested in the pitch)

                It makes no sense that there would be a random pitch chosen when both the pitch for the school is poor AND the recruit has no interest. Anyone else agree?
                Recruiting as a whole in this game is fairly unrealistic. What the slot-machine system adds is a game within the game, preventing the player from spamming the most pitches. So this is essentially a balancing act to keep some schools in check, rather than allow a team to spam its A's.

                If you can come up with a system that is both realistic and balanced then I am all...well, eyes i guess.
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                • Steel Pitt
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                  • May 2008
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                  #143
                  Re: Coaching Carousel blog is posted!

                  Wassup fellas. Sorry if this has been answered (I haven't seen it anywhere) but I had two questions regarding the Coaching Carousel feature.

                  1. Can you move between Coordinator and HC back to Coordinator etc or do you go from Coordinator to HC and then you can only be a HC from that point on. For example, is the following sequence possible in the game:

                  Start as OC of Bowling Green
                  Promoted to HC of Miami (OH)
                  Take OC <NOBR>job</NOBR> at Iowa
                  Take HC job at Indiana

                  Its probably a stupid question and I'm accuming this is possible but just wanted to confirm.

                  2. In an Online Dynasty, if the owners are both Coordinators and scheduled to play each other, do you still only control your side of the ball in a user/user game or will you be able to control both aspects even if you are a coordinator?

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                  • TracerBullet
                    One Last Job
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 22119

                    #144
                    Re: Coaching Carousel blog is posted!

                    Originally posted by Steel Pitt
                    Wassup fellas. Sorry if this has been answered (I haven't seen it anywhere) but I had two questions regarding the Coaching Carousel feature.

                    1. Can you move between Coordinator and HC back to Coordinator etc or do you go from Coordinator to HC and then you can only be a HC from that point on. For example, is the following sequence possible in the game:

                    Start as OC of Bowling Green
                    Promoted to HC of Miami (OH)
                    Take OC <nobr>job</nobr> at Iowa
                    Take HC job at Indiana

                    Its probably a stupid question and I'm accuming this is possible but just wanted to confirm.

                    2. In an Online Dynasty, if the owners are both Coordinators and scheduled to play each other, do you still only control your side of the ball in a user/user game or will you be able to control both aspects even if you are a coordinator?
                    1. Yes you can. I'm pretty sure they mentioned it before.

                    2. You control both sides against a User no matter what.
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                    • cts
                      Two Oh Six
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 246

                      #145
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                      Originally posted by N51_rob
                      I would also like to see the star raiting change through the recruting process. Like in "Meat Market" guys who are only being recruited by for example Western Kentucky might only be a 2 star, but once LSU or Alabama become interested hr magically is a 4 star. That'd how recruiting raitings work anyways.

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                      • Gloves 82
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                        • Oct 2009
                        • 739

                        #146
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                        Originally posted by N51_rob
                        Somewhere there is a balance to raitings. Stretched was a great idea just poorly implemented.


                        I would also like to see the star raiting change through the recruting process. Like in "Meat Market" guys who are only being recruited by for example Western Kentucky might only be a 2 star, but once LSU or Alabama become interested hr magically is a 4 star. That'd how recruiting ratings work anyways.
                        Yep like a few years ago with Sheldon Richardson. He was a 4* committed to Mizzou, but when Miami became interested, he became a 5* and a top 10 recruit.

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                        • The_Wise_One
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                          • Jan 2011
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                          #147
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                          this feature looks solid but is dynasty really going to be that different? custom conferences is at the beginning and coaching carousel is at the end. If recruiting hasnt changed then it will be the EXACT same structure as last year.....its getting really stale. ive been playing ncaa football less and less each year because of this. I was really hoping for a dynamite feature that changed the way I play dynasty. maybe EA will surprise me
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                          • wesglenn
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                            • May 2011
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                            #148
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                            the carousel mode is flawed and bad, why would you choose to be an off cord and a d cord if you cant have control over the outcome, head coach mode you have control, i dont like it at all

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                            • Solidice
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                              • Jul 2006
                              • 9939

                              #149
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                              Originally posted by wesglenn
                              the carousel mode is flawed and bad, why would you choose to be an off cord and a d cord if you cant have control over the outcome, head coach mode you have control, i dont like it at all
                              if your the OC, you control the offense. DC you control the defense. Head Coach you control both.
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                              • ndfan1993
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                                • Jun 2008
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                                #150
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Coach Carousel

                                Well the HC position at Ohio State should immediately be open in the game.

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