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  • Exile04
    Rookie
    • May 2011
    • 393

    #1

    Another budget and money question

    OK so im sure this has been beaten into the ground, but im new to this site and "the show" part of it.
    Anyways, first i read and found out why my M's player budget is so low (fantasy draft) is there any fix. I have had to win like 4 WS jsut to get to $90m?
    2nd i have like $1 billion in team money anything i can do with that, i have bought all the venders, my rehaba dn field get fixed every month, medical staff is top notch. so i dotn knwo whatelse i can do with it?

    ANy help would be appreicated
    So if this is annoying
  • Mike3207
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 4665

    #2
    Re: Another budget and money question

    Originally posted by Exile04
    OK so im sure this has been beaten into the ground, but im new to this site and "the show" part of it.
    Anyways, first i read and found out why my M's player budget is so low (fantasy draft) is there any fix. I have had to win like 4 WS jsut to get to $90m?
    2nd i have like $1 billion in team money anything i can do with that, i have bought all the venders, my rehaba dn field get fixed every month, medical staff is top notch. so i dotn knwo whatelse i can do with it?

    ANy help would be appreicated
    So if this is annoying
    I read on these forums that player budget is based on the roster you load. The more talented the roster, the bigger the player budget is when you start. As for funds, there's really not a lot you can do with it past the 1st year. It just accumulates and really doesn't do anything.I hope they can change that next year.

    BTW-you've played 4 years-did you see anything unusual the 4th offseason? I saw a lot of Type A FA go really cheap-2 million/yr, 3 million/yr-I want to know if I'm the only to see that.
    Last edited by Mike3207; 05-25-2011, 04:33 PM.

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    • Ghostciv
      Rookie
      • Nov 2007
      • 80

      #3
      Re: Another budget and money question

      Well with that extra money u can go above ur budget with out going into the red on money. if ur budget is 90million an du still making money go over ur budget since u r still making money.

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      • Brandwin
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jul 2002
        • 30621

        #4
        Re: Another budget and money question

        My team is loaded right now, but I am $8 million in the hole. Will my budget get larger next year? Or am I screwed with signing guys next year? What happens?

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        • Mike3207
          MVP
          • Apr 2009
          • 4665

          #5
          Re: Another budget and money question

          Originally posted by DookieMowf
          My team is loaded right now, but I am $8 million in the hole. Will my budget get larger next year? Or am I screwed with signing guys next year? What happens?
          Your budget will get larger if you have a record over .500. Free agency will allow you to have more money. You have to have some cap room before the end of the season. If you don't, you'll have to release players to cut salary before the end of the off-season.

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          • Brandwin
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jul 2002
            • 30621

            #6
            Originally posted by mrs844224
            Your budget will get larger if you have a record over .500. Free agency will allow you to have more money. You have to have some cap room before the end of the season. If you don't, you'll have to release players to cut salary before the end of the off-season.
            Doh! That might be tough. Thanks.

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            • vilsack08
              Rookie
              • Nov 2010
              • 80

              #7
              Re: Another budget and money question

              Your budget will only increase if you finish with a top 8 record or advance in the playoffs. If you finish .500 or better (even if you make the playoffs) your player budget will be unchanged.

              Example: Win the NL West with an 83-79 record but the Brewers, Cubs and Braves all have 84 wins or more but fail to make the playoffs. If you lose in the NLDS, your budget will remain unchanged. Advance to the NLCS and it should be a 1% growth. Advance to the WS and it should be +3%, win the WS and it should be 5%.

              Using the formula I posted in a couple other threads, I have successfully predicted the player budget changes of 29 of the 30 teams in four total offseasons in two different franchises. The wildcard is always the Pirates...they end up unchanged every year. Haven't discovered yet if it's just a fluke or if it's because they always have the lowest payroll.
              Last edited by vilsack08; 06-02-2011, 04:04 PM.
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              • vilsack08
                Rookie
                • Nov 2010
                • 80

                #8
                Re: Another budget and money question

                I am currently in the 2015 off season heading into 2016 and just had an interesting message from Boston Red Sox ownership (I'm running the Royals on 30 team control). Player budget in 2015 was $199M. They had the #2 record overall and went to the World Series. That should have gotten them a 6-7% increase, but an email indicates ownership is not willing to add any budget for player salaries. This is the first time I have seen such a message. The Red Sox franchise earned $160M in profit for the year.

                Obvious questions: Is ~ $200M the cutoff for all franchises? Is that the limit forever, or will it change again next year? If the Red Sox finish sub-.500 next year will they earn a reprieve on a budget drop because this year's budget was not changed? My budget with the Royals is now $111M. Will I be able to grow the salary 2-9% a season until the $200M mark, or will ownership step in sooner for smaller market teams?

                I was going to ask something else, but I answered my own question. The reason the Pirates' payroll never drops is because their player salaries have not hit the "salary floor" of $60M/year. Last year's payroll was only $50M. The Rays will reach the salary floor if they finish below .500 this year.

                So it looks like player salaries max out at $200M with a soft minimum of $60M, but you can spend below that amount.
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                • MC2
                  Rookie
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 412

                  #9
                  Re: Another budget and money question

                  Why does no one just turn on ignore budgets? I mean, I'm all about realism, but when I play a franchise, I want to PLAY, not worry about money.

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                  • 37
                    Fear The Spear
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 10346

                    #10
                    Re: Another budget and money question

                    Originally posted by vilsack08
                    I am currently in the 2015 off season heading into 2016 and just had an interesting message from Boston Red Sox ownership (I'm running the Royals on 30 team control). Player budget in 2015 was $199M. They had the #2 record overall and went to the World Series. That should have gotten them a 6-7% increase, but an email indicates ownership is not willing to add any budget for player salaries. This is the first time I have seen such a message. The Red Sox franchise earned $160M in profit for the year.

                    Obvious questions: Is ~ $200M the cutoff for all franchises? Is that the limit forever, or will it change again next year? If the Red Sox finish sub-.500 next year will they earn a reprieve on a budget drop because this year's budget was not changed? My budget with the Royals is now $111M. Will I be able to grow the salary 2-9% a season until the $200M mark, or will ownership step in sooner for smaller market teams?

                    I was going to ask something else, but I answered my own question. The reason the Pirates' payroll never drops is because their player salaries have not hit the "salary floor" of $60M/year. Last year's payroll was only $50M. The Rays will reach the salary floor if they finish below .500 this year.

                    So it looks like player salaries max out at $200M with a soft minimum of $60M, but you can spend below that amount.
                    Considering that I play with the Pirates and haven't reached the offseason yet, do u guys have any tips on how i should approach it when the time comes? I know that I have to re-sign my core guys (McCutchen, Walker, etc.)
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                    • vilsack08
                      Rookie
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 80

                      #11
                      Re: Another budget and money question

                      Originally posted by MC2
                      Why does no one just turn on ignore budgets? I mean, I'm all about realism, but when I play a franchise, I want to PLAY, not worry about money.
                      For me, worrying about the money is part of the fun. The great thing about The Show is that you can ignore the budgets if you like, or play like us and let budgetary concerns play an integral part in the process.


                      Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                      Considering that I play with the Pirates and haven't reached the offseason yet, do u guys have any tips on how i should approach it when the time comes? I know that I have to re-sign my core guys (McCutchen, Walker, etc.)
                      Get player morale as high as you can during the season.
                      Never give the player as much as he wants. 95 times out of 100 he will take less than he wants (in some cases substantially less).
                      If you get in a bidding war for a free agent, move on to another prospect.
                      I give offers only to a C or above "potential" with an age under 32, with few exceptions (I was able to sign the 36-year old David Ortiz for only $1.3M)

                      Check around the forums for more specific ideas.
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                      • 37
                        Fear The Spear
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10346

                        #12
                        Re: Another budget and money question

                        [QUOTE=vilsack08;2042517669]For me, worrying about the money is part of the fun. The great thing about The Show is that you can ignore the budgets if you like, or play like us and let budgetary concerns play an integral part in the process.




                        Get player morale as high as you can during the season.
                        Never give the player as much as he wants. 95 times out of 100 he will take less than he wants (in some cases substantially less).
                        If you get in a bidding war for a free agent, move on to another prospect.
                        I give offers only to a C or above "potential" with an age under 32, with few exceptions (I was able to sign the 36-year old David Ortiz for only $1.3M)

                        Check around the forums for more specific ideas.[/QUOTE

                        Player morale never seems to increase for me...It's been stuck at approximately 60% since forever....I guess that's due to me not installing all the rehab/training facilities since i use my available funds to pay off my loans
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                        • vilsack08
                          Rookie
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 80

                          #13
                          Re: Another budget and money question

                          Originally posted by NoFatGirlz4Me37
                          Player morale never seems to increase for me...It's been stuck at approximately 60% since forever....I guess that's due to me not installing all the rehab/training facilities since i use my available funds to pay off my loans
                          Install the upgrades and your player morale will go up. Pay the loans off in year 2.
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                          • 37
                            Fear The Spear
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 10346

                            #14
                            Re: Another budget and money question

                            Originally posted by vilsack08
                            Install the upgrades and your player morale will go up. Pay the loans off in year 2.
                            There is no year 2...I took out two 1-year loans before i started
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                            • 37
                              Fear The Spear
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 10346

                              #15
                              Re: Another budget and money question

                              Originally posted by vilsack08
                              Install the upgrades and your player morale will go up. Pay the loans off in year 2.
                              I don't see the point in installing rehab facilities since I turned off injuries...But if that's the only way player morale will increase...
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