Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

[greasyindiekid]

Ok... So we know that "Option" teams will recruit scrambling QBs... That's great... but how many teams are listed as "Option teams" right now? 3-5?

My concern is for teams that are currently listed as "Spread" like Oregon, Auburn, etc that use the read-option as a staple play... are they still going to recruit pocket passers?

This is a HUGE concern for me because there are A LOT more "Spread" teams that use the Read-Option as a staple play than there are "Option" teams who use the wish-bone primarily.

There is nothing worse than playing against a Zone-Read team after 4-5 years in a dynasty. Once all of real QBs have left they are filled with with QBs that have 50-60 speed ratings.

[RamblinWreck21]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

Good question and I don't know if it has been answered, but spread type teams do seem to take chances on Pocket Passers more than strict Option teams....Look at Brantley at Florida. Florida also went after Aaron Murray as well. Obviously they prefer scrambling QBs and they can use their full playbooks with them, but some of these spread playbooks can legitimately be run by pocket passers with success. The Wishbone offense....not so much. Basically what I'm saying is yes, you are right, this should be fixed, but I think the Spread teams should take a few chances on pocket passers if they are highly rated and interested in the school. As for the typical under center option teams, they should almost strictly go after scrambling Qbs. I don't think Paul Johnson would even waste his time with a 5 star recruit interested in us unless he could at least sorta run.

[JalenTigh]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I read somewhere (not an official EA blog) that Spread teams will go after balanced QB's. If true, the question is have they tuned QB ratings to be more accurate in the QB's role... because In the past I have seen some downright SLOW "balanced" QB's who should have been 'Pocket Passers", and "scramblers" who should have been "balanced".

[Soarindude02]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I read somewhere (not an official EA blog) that Spread teams will go after balanced QB's. If true, the question is have they tuned QB ratings to be more accurate in the QB's role... because In the past I have seen some downright SLOW "balanced" QB's who should have been 'Pocket Passers", and "scramblers" who should have been "balanced".

Agreed. They need to have the ratings for the QB's a little more accurate.

[Seanzie]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I'm just hoping that this has been tuned properly, or at least can be changed in tuner packs. I doubt it will be perfect out of the box.

Option teams need to recruit scrambling QBs or athletes who play QB exclusively. Pistol offenses should lean scrambler, but also be open to really good balanced QBs. Spread, one back, pro style, etc. need to go after the best QBs available.

This should also be tied in to coach preferences as well, which should be in next year along with some ratings. For example, Chip Kelly, who runs a spread offense at Oregon, seems to prefer scramblers over pocket passers even though he doesn't run an option offense.

[BIGD419]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I think they need some sort of "slider" that dictates how important it is for a team to recruit a specific type of player. Sounds confusing, I know, but here's an example using QB's as an example....

5- With the slider set at 5, the team should almost-exclusively be interested in scrambling QB's. Teams set at 5 should recruit 80%+ scrambling QB's.

4- With the slider set at 4, the team should target more scrambling QB's, but settle for more of a "balanced" option if the talent level is there. Teams set at 4 should recruit something like 65% scrambling QB's

3- With the slider set at 3, teams should be indifferent to what kind of quarterback s they recruit. 50/50 recruiting, just try to get the best QB available.

2- With the slider set at 2, the team should target more pocket passers, but be willing to settle for more of a balanced QB if the overall level of talent is there. Teams set at 2 should recruit about 65% pocket passers.

1- With the slider set at 1, the team should target almost-exclusively pocket passers. Teams set at 1 should recruit about 80%+ pocket passers.

Just my $.02.

[goalieump413]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

Help me out here. You're expressing concerns about CPU teams recruiting based on a more realistic set of circumstances, whereas last year CPU teams didn't? You'd prefer the old system?

First of all, Jordan didn't indicate that this only applies to QB's. Second, he stated that it was one of the earliest adjustments, so it's likely that it's received plenty of scrutiny. Afterall, if it didn't work, would he post it?

But look at the bigger issue: If CPU teams run more than pass, blitz more than play zone, whatever... now it sounds like they'll recruit based on their overall team needs AND positional needs. It's like NFL teams drafting based on team need rather than "best available".

[TheShizNo1]

Help me out here. You're expressing concerns about CPU teams recruiting based on a more realistic set of circumstances, whereas last year CPU teams didn't? You'd prefer the old system?

First of all, Jordan didn't indicate that this only applies to QB's. Second, he stated that it was one of the earliest adjustments, so it's likely that it's received plenty of scrutiny. Afterall, if it didn't work, would he post it?

But look at the bigger issue: If CPU teams run more than pass, blitz more than play zone, whatever... now it sounds like they'll recruit based on their overall team needs AND positional needs. It's like NFL teams drafting based on team need rather than "best available".

College teams (most) don't recruit for BPA. They go for system recruiting. You can't compare pro and college in that aspect. I don't want to see a Peyton Manning type QB at Georgia Tech.

[prototype561]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I think there should be 4 types of qb's

1. Pocket passer: slow, ok to great arm, great accuracy(Mallet)
2. Balanced: not as slow as the pocket passer, good arm and accuracy, ok to good speed (Ponder)
3. Option: More of a rb playing qb, good arm bad accuracy, strong, higher break tackle, ok to good speed (Nesbit)
4. Scrambler/spread: great athlete, good arm and accuracy, good speed and quick, looks to throw and only runs when plays break down or a qb running play(Newton)

This way all qb classes are covered.
just my opinion.

[jello1717]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I think they need some sort of "slider" that dictates how important it is for a team to recruit a specific type of player. Sounds confusing, I know, but here's an example using QB's as an example....

5- With the slider set at 5, the team should almost-exclusively be interested in scrambling QB's. Teams set at 5 should recruit 80%+ scrambling QB's.

4- With the slider set at 4, the team should target more scrambling QB's, but settle for more of a "balanced" option if the talent level is there. Teams set at 4 should recruit something like 65% scrambling QB's

3- With the slider set at 3, teams should be indifferent to what kind of quarterback s they recruit. 50/50 recruiting, just try to get the best QB available.

2- With the slider set at 2, the team should target more pocket passers, but be willing to settle for more of a balanced QB if the overall level of talent is there. Teams set at 2 should recruit about 65% pocket passers.

1- With the slider set at 1, the team should target almost-exclusively pocket passers. Teams set at 1 should recruit about 80%+ pocket passers.

Just my $.02.

I'm pretty sure that something similar to this has been implemented in the game for a while now for user teams. They have sliders for your recruiting preferences for each position, IE. QB: Scrambler/balanced/pocket, DE: Run stopper/balanced/pash rusher, etc. All they need to do is to implement these exact same sliders for every CPU team and allow us to edit them. They should also follow the coach when he moves around in the coach carousel.

[bkrich83]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

Just to make a point, to run the spread offense you don't need an option QB. You can be just as succesful running the spread offense with a traditional pocket passer.. Your playcalling changes some, but the notion you need a mobile QB to run the spread is a fallacy.

[dan_457]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

Just to make a point, to run the spread offense you don't need an option QB. You can be just as succesful running the spread offense with a traditional pocket passer.. Your playcalling changes some, but the notion you need a mobile QB to run the spread is a fallacy.

Yup, A lot of people forget that the Air raid offense for example, is a spread offense. With the success of the more run option oriented spread recently, i.e Oregon and Auburn, it's been overlooked.

[TheShizNo1]

Just to make a point, to run the spread offense you don't need an option QB. You can be just as succesful running the spread offense with a traditional pocket passer.. Your playcalling changes some, but the notion you need a mobile QB to run the spread is a fallacy.

I assumed everyone knew that...I mean Texas Tech anyone?


EDIT: Dan beat me to it

[bkrich83]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I assumed everyone knew that...I mean Texas Tech anyone?

Right. The spread is about creating mismatches on defense and forcing the defense to cover the entire field. Being able to run the zone/read has zero to do with the success of the offense.

[BIGD419]

Re: Option teams will recruit scambling QBs, But...

I'm pretty sure that something similar to this has been implemented in the game for a while now for user teams. They have sliders for your recruiting preferences for each position, IE. QB: Scrambler/balanced/pocket, DE: Run stopper/balanced/pash rusher, etc. All they need to do is to implement these exact same sliders for every CPU team and allow us to edit them. They should also follow the coach when he moves around in the coach carousel.

I know, but I think that those 3 options aren't enough. A team like GT should go after a scrambling 3* QB over a 5* QB that runs a 5.0 40 for as long as their running the triple option. These teams would be set at "5"

On the other, their may be teams that would prefer a running QB, but would take a pocket QB if the talent level was that much better then a team's other scrambling QB recruits. These teams would be set at "4"