NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

[dan_457]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Yea, I hated NCAA 10, but I think it was because I looked at the problems it had way too much. When I got NCAA 11 I really enjoyed it, but then I started to repeat the following year's story and started to dislike it more and more because I looked at everything and found something wrong with it. Took a little break from the game and started to just play the game and have fun while focusing on what it did and I probably enjoyed those 4 seasons I did like that more than any other seasons I ever played in any football game.

The only problems that still bothered me in that dynasty was the zone defense and K/P recruits. Now that they fixed those, I will probably have a hard time putting 12 down if I play it like I did the end of 11.

As much as I play NCAA 11, it still frustrates me to no end. Before I bought NCAA 11, I was into all of the hype, I remember being being as excited as a 10 year old is for Christmas. Unfortunately once I started playing the game, all of the glaring flaws just screamed out at me, and It made it incredibly hard to enjoy the game. As you said, the best way to enjoy the game is to just ignore all of the flaws and just play, that's probably why the first season I played was the most fun I've ever head in a Football game. Ignorance is bliss. I've been trying to take up that approach again, just shrug it off when my free safety somehow ends up 10 yards further down field, than the guy who's in his zone wide open, etc.

With the new zone defense, I'm really excited to actually play defense now. Last year it was just so broken, along with special teams. It just felt incomplete, it was like offense was the only real phase of the game.

[buckeye02]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

With the new zone defense being in the game, you'll now here on the forums that the defense is too hard. Can't please everyone.

[canes21]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

With the new zone defense being in the game, you'll now here on the forums that the defense is too hard. Can't please everyone.

Defense being too hard will make me . Now if it unrealistically hard, then... :/

[buckeye02]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Defense being too hard will make me . Now if it unrealistically hard, then... :/

Me too. Im a defensive kinda guy anyways. I think it will be less of a challenge to make the defense easier than make the defense harder like in previous years.

[canes21]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Probably will be, or I hope. Last year, you either had WR Mirroring like crazy and zones that still hardly worked, or zones that never worked with more realistic man coverage.

Hopefully when they say the removed WR mirroring that means that even at 100 the DBs don't mirror WRs, but just stick with them like glue.

[dan_457]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

With the new zone defense being in the game, you'll now here on the forums that the defense is too hard. Can't please everyone.

Defense should be hard. I remember playing 2k5(not trying to compare here) a while back, and I struggled to get even get a few first downs, on whatever difficulty the equivalent to All American is. I can blow out teams on any difficulty in 11 usually without even trying, so this was a brand new kind of experience. I think we've just gotten to used to being able to move the ball at will.

[buckeye02]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

If 65 overall corners are sticking to 95 overall WR's than something will definately be tuned. Im talking about unrealistically sticking the WR.

[canes21]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Defense should be hard. I remember playing 2k5(not trying to compare here) a while back, and I struggled to get even get a few first downs, on whatever difficulty the equivalent to All American is. I can blow out teams on any difficulty in 11 usually without even trying, so this was a brand new kind of experience. I think we've just gotten to used to being able to move the ball at will.

Haha, this remind me of last summer. After getting tired of both Madden and NCAA I started a 2k5 franchise with default rosters and did a fantasy draft and drafted guy I knew were stars now, but not then. I had Ben Roth. as QB, Steven Jackson at WR, Andre Johnson at WR, etc. The team now would be insane, but in the game they were all young and inconsistent.

That season was so incredibly hard. I rarely scored over 10 points a game on the equivalent of All American. The second season though, Super Bowl favorites easily. Everyone progressed into the stars we know now.

[buckeye02]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Defense should be hard. I remember playing 2k5(not trying to compare here) a while back, and I struggled to get even get a few first downs, on whatever difficulty the equivalent to All American is. I can blow out teams on any difficulty in 11 usually without even trying, so this was a brand new kind of experience. I think we've just gotten to used to being able to move the ball at will.

Hell, my favorite football game was Madden with Ray Lewis on the cover. What was the main feature for that year? Improved defense.

[HarkTheSound]

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I'm sure I am not the only one like this, but OS has made me so much more critical of NCAA (and sports games in general) than I ever use to be.

I mean 3 or 4 years ago, I would know none of the new features that were coming out for the game until I had the actual game box in my hand on release. Being exposed to OS, I come to this forum 20 times a day 4-6 months before the damn game comes hunting for new stuff to scrutinize.

Sometimes I wish I never discovered OS. Don't get me wrong, I love this site, but I just seemed to enjoy myself more back in the old days. I still have a ton of fun playing, but I am urked much more easily by things I probably would have never noticed pre-OS.

I did find the dynasty blog today a bit underwhelming, but I am not gonna gripe about it. With basically all of the major features released for this years game layed out now, I gotta say I am pleased with what the NCAA is offering us this year. NCAA 11 was head and shoulders about 07-10, and I expect 12 to be a very good game as well.

[boritter]

Re: New Dynasty Blog - Dynasty Tuning

CC is a pretty significant feature WITHIN dynasty.. Just saying. To say they only spent 1% of development time on dynasty is a crude understatement.

I realize that CC is amazing for some people. I'm happy for them. But for people who don't like CC there are very few new dynasty features. Certainly Madden's franchise mode got more of an upgrade than dynasty mode.

EA said there is an option to turn CC off in dynasty. I plan on doing that because I am only interested in playing as one school per dynasty. I want to make Colorado into a powerhouse (since I can't drive a DeLorean back to the late 80s & early 90s).

Since CC is not up my alley what new dynasty improvements do I have to look forward to? According to the blog there aren't many.

[JalenTigh]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Blog - Dynasty Tuning and More Details on Coaching Carousel

Ok, so they have fixed the issue with QB recruiting. But so far thats the only position they are mentioning. Is this new recruiting logic going to affect all recruits or just QB's?

Will 3-4 teams recruit big run stuffing DE's and pass rushing OLB's?? Will teams like Wisconsin recruit big power backs? Will option teams recruit quick FB's? Will 3-3-5 teams double up on SS's?

Don't get me wrong, just fixing the QB problem is a major improvement, but that was far from the only position that needed work, and so far they have not mentioned (that I have seen) anything about those.

[teammaxwell]

Re: New Dynasty Blog - Dynasty Tuning

It says that schools recruit based on their play style. Does this mean that if, say Georgia Tech hires June Jones, will they immediately recruit a Pocket Passer?

I would hope that this is the case.

from what I have read and the videos posted, it looks like the new coaches philosophy comes with him to his new team.

[canes21]

Re: New Dynasty Blog - Dynasty Tuning

I realize that CC is amazing for some people. I'm happy for them. But for people who don't like CC there are very few new dynasty features. Certainly Madden's franchise mode got more of an upgrade than dynasty mode.

EA said there is an option to turn CC off in dynasty. I plan on doing that because I am only interested in playing as one school per dynasty. I want to make Colorado into a powerhouse (since I can't drive a DeLorean back to the late 80s & early 90s).

Since CC is not up my alley what new dynasty improvements do I have to look forward to? According to the blog there aren't many.

I don't understand why you would need to turn off the CC because you want to play as Colorado. You can play as any school you want in the game still with the CC on.

[Niq54]

EA can we please adjust the OVR rating of players. SIZE, and Intangible ratings like AWR, PRC, Route Running, should have much more of a impack on OVR than SPD, AGL, and ACC. This would lead to less freakish type players (OLB's with 90+ SPD for example), and this would make experience more valuable than talent. Michigan for example had tons of speed last year and were highly rated on the game, but in real life they were inexperienced and poorly coached so they were not very good. Please find a better way the measure the OVR rating and we will see a much representation of real College Football.

To go with the statement of above, how do players magically lose Rating 5pts of athletism when importing draft classes from NCAA to Madden? I understand why it happens video game wise (A high rated college player shouldn't be a high rated pro player), but that's why if you adjusted what makes a NCAA player a high OVR then you wouldn't have to make dramatic athletic ratings penalties when importing players. For instance, a TOP NCAA RB will have 95 SPD 95 AGL and 95 ACC in NCAA but when he is imported into Madden he may end up with 90-92 SPD 90-95 AGL and 90-95 ACC. Did he get slower somewhere? I understand in order to keep him in line with current Madden players this is done, but there is no way to improve some physical ratings once the player is imported into Madden. Chris Johnson ran a 4.25 40 and should have been a 99 SPD in NCAA but if he would have been imported into Madden he may have ended up a 96-97, he definately would not have been a 99. If you changed the ratings in NCAA and made them not change in converting to Madden everything would be better. Granted Chris Johnson wasn't an All-Star in college, but he was still fast. He didn't get any slower, he just developed in other areas, BCV, CAR, STR. Those are the things that make a good RB not just speed, so those should be the RATINGS that MATTER and CHANGE. Suh is another perfect example he dominated in College football because he was STRONGER and FASTER than everyone else, and he still does in the NFL. But because almost every other lineman in NCAA will be rated with simliar STR ratings as Suh there is no proper way to account for that. A large majority of lineman in NCAA will be rated 99 STR or reach that mark through progression. Most lineman should be rated 85ish in STR and thus only a few ELITE players will ever reach 99. I liked the fact that recruits came in ranked lower last year, the problem was that the default rosters were rated too high. Instead of making too many elite players again make less at the beginning. You were on to something but the fix went in the wrong direction. Less 90 rated players to start with and always. Each year there are only 5-10 ELITE players in Football.