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  • It Must Be The Shoes
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    • Feb 2011
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    #271
    Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

    Originally posted by bkrich83
    First EA has NEVER had competition when it comes to NCAA football. Microtransactions would be here whether EA has competition or not.

    And really EA was to blame for 2k's demise?

    You make it sound like EA was practicing some shady business practice and taking 2k out ilegally. Talk to the NFL and the NCAA Licensing Group.

    Are microtransactions a good thing? Not imo. Is something like this where there are add on features for $3 available a big deal? Absolutely not, unless you are one of the chicken littles who cry the sky is falling at every turn because they have an obvious axe to grind with EA.
    EA lobbied for exclusivity (NCAAF & NFL). Then went out and paid a fortune to gobble up exclusive rights to every other branded football league domestic and abroad (including the exclusive rights to ESPN) to stifle competition and gain control over the market. Moreover, they are now charging for features that would have otherwise been all-inclusive in an environment with competing licensed products. This is an anti consumer business strategy. If anybody has an axe to grind with EA, they certainly are justified.
    Last edited by It Must Be The Shoes; 05-28-2011, 01:46 PM.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #272
      Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

      Originally posted by poopoop
      Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game.

      If they're going to charge $60 then decide some features are bonus, I'd rather them just up the price or include the full list of features.


      You are then living in an Utopian world.

      Do you know how much of an headache that would be for marketing and developing the game and the retail stores setting up that kind of a practice.

      You'd probably be paying more for one feature and or all the features because of all the extra cost involved in setting up something like that.

      Geez, I'd like my text messages to be free to and get rid of the camera options that I don't use, but guess what, that's here to stay.

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      • JaySmooov
        Banned
        • May 2011
        • 1693

        #273
        Originally posted by bkrich83
        Again the price of the game hasn't changed in like 7 years. That's not common in the consumer market place. Not sure what your complaint is on the pricing.



        That's not even close to accurate. As far as not having an axe to grind with EA that's also quite obviously false. If you don't like Microtransactions then I hope you complain about every game that is released.
        Game prices haven't changed because we don't have a new console, and the next new console is from Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony won't be making new systems for another 3-4 years, based off of speculation. But back in the PS2/XBOX days, games were 49.99.

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        • BIG MONE88
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          • Jun 2010
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          #274
          If they are gonna add features later on. After the game is release then cool. But don't tell us what's new in game. Then turn around and charge usfor it...

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          • poopoop
            MVP
            • Sep 2003
            • 1081

            #275
            Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

            Originally posted by bkrich83


            That's not even close to accurate. As far as not having an axe to grind with EA that's also quite obviously false. If you don't like Microtransactions then I hope you complain about every game that is released.
            The only games I play that this site covers are NBA 2k, Madden and NCAA. I'm pretty sure NBA 2k didn't even have microtransactions last year. The other two I complained about.

            I could start talking about map packs and other things but that'd be off-topic.

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            • poopoop
              MVP
              • Sep 2003
              • 1081

              #276
              Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

              Originally posted by roadman
              You are then living in an Utopian world.

              Do you know how much of an headache that would be for marketing and developing the game and the retail stores setting up that kind of a practice.

              You'd probably be paying more for one feature and or all the features because of all the extra cost involved in setting up something like that.

              Geez, I'd like my text messages to be free to and get rid of the camera options that I don't use, but guess what, that's here to stay.
              I'm not suggesting that it should or will happen, I already know it won't.

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              • lofeazy
                Banned
                • Jan 2010
                • 586

                #277
                Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                Originally posted by poopoop
                Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game.

                Don't give them ideals........................

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                • bkrich83
                  Has Been
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 71572

                  #278
                  Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                  Originally posted by JaySmooov
                  Game prices haven't changed because we don't have a new console, and the next new console is from Nintendo. Microsoft and Sony won't be making new systems for another 3-4 years, based off of speculation. But back in the PS2/XBOX days, games were 49.99.
                  Why they haven't is of no matter. Fact of the matter is they haven't. Given our current level of inflation that's saying something.
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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #279
                    Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                    Originally posted by BIG MONE88
                    If they are gonna add features later on. After the game is release then cool. But don't tell us what's new in game. Then turn around and charge usfor it...
                    Would rather know 6 weeks before you possibly purchase the game or would you prefer to know after your purchase?

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                    • bkrich83
                      Has Been
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 71572

                      #280
                      Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                      Originally posted by It Must Be The Shoes
                      EA lobbied for exclusivity (NCAAF & NFL). Then went out and paid a fortune to gobble up exclusive rights to every other branded football league domestic and abroad (including the exclusive rights to ESPN) to stifle competition and gain control over the market. Moreover, they are now charging for features that would have otherwise been all-inclusive in an environment with competing licensed products. This is an anti consumer business strategy. If anybody has an axe to grind with EA, they certainly are justified.
                      Where did you get the part where EA Lobbied for exclusivity? Source?

                      How do you know if these features would have been included? They've never been in a football game before..

                      2k and ESPN had ended their relationship. EA had no affect on ESPN not signing with 2k. 2k and ESPN weren't going to have another agreement one way or another.
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                      • JaySmooov
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 1693

                        #281
                        Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                        Originally posted by poopoop
                        Honestly, I'd rather have them just sell the basic game (just the basic play now mode at a price lower than the $60 mark) then have all the other features modes optional. You want RTG you pay X, you want OD you pay Y, you want offline dynasty you pay Z. That'd save most people money and only let people get exactly what they want from the game.

                        If they're going to charge $60 then decide some features are bonus, I'd rather them just up the price or include the full list of features.



                        Yes they have. And like I've stated previously, Madden having competition was beneficial to NCAA since the games share a lot of things. It also ignores that they bought an exclusive contract which made it impossible for any competition to pop up. And no I don't have an obvious axe to grind with EA. I have a problem with microtransactions.
                        1)Hell if that's the case, how about they just start making games with stick figures and make GRAPHICS optional? They could even make us pay $0.10 cents more for the current-gen graphics!

                        2) I'm glad you think I should be forced to pay extra for a optional - OPTIONAL - feature I may or may not use, just because YOU don't like microtransactions.

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                        • poopoop
                          MVP
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 1081

                          #282
                          Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                          Originally posted by JaySmooov

                          2) I'm glad you think I should be forced to pay extra for a optional - OPTIONAL - feature I may or may not use, just because YOU don't like microtransactions.
                          You already do. You pay $60 for a game that includes Mascot Mode, RTG, Offline Dynasty, Online Dynasty, online play now, regular play now. There's no way you utilize every option in the game but you pay for all of them. Go ahead though and tell me you play all of those modes every year.

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                          • bkrich83
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                            • Jul 2002
                            • 71572

                            #283
                            Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                            Originally posted by BIG MONE88
                            If they are gonna add features later on. After the game is release then cool. But don't tell us what's new in game. Then turn around and charge usfor it...
                            How does that make sense? I'd rather know now.. Having extra features announced and charging more for them is not something new.

                            I hate the car analogies, but it's like a car commercial where they say Car X cost $20,000 and then in the fine print they say car as shown in the commercial cost was $28,000

                            This is not anything new nor is there anything wrong with it.

                            They are charging for an extra feature, or higher level of service. This is common in the real world. Not having these features will not prevent you from playing the game in any way, shape or size. If you don't want to pay for the extra features then don't.

                            I don't get the vitriol for EA when they are doing the exact same thing just about every business in the free world is.

                            EA deserves a lot of the criticism they get, but damn....
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                            • bkrich83
                              Has Been
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 71572

                              #284
                              Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                              Originally posted by poopoop
                              You already do. You pay $60 for a game that includes Mascot Mode, RTG, Offline Dynasty, Online Dynasty, online play now, regular play now. There's no way you utilize every option in the game but you pay for all of them. Go ahead though and tell me you play all of those modes every year.
                              Now you are really reaching to attempt to prove your point. You just compared base game modes to add on features or options.

                              BTW I play all those modes but mascot mode.
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                              • poopoop
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 1081

                                #285
                                Re: New Features Aren’t All Free in NCAA Football 12

                                Originally posted by bkrich83
                                Where did you get the part where EA Lobbied for exclusivity? Source?
                                From gamespot. It was posted earlier in the thread.

                                The deal, one EA admits to having lobbied for over the past few years, is an exclusive five-year licensing deal granting EA the sole rights to the NFL's teams, stadiums, and players.
                                Five-year contract gives EA sole rights to the NFL, including teams, players, and stadiums. Take-Two reacts, calling it a "tremendous disservice to the consumers."

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