Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

[mjhyankees]

When I first heard this, i thought that it would be a good thing (and still may be). But as I thought of this i remembered that in my chises i already get guys on hot and cold streaks. Whether its my team of the cpu I'll have guys having break out years or crap years. Case in point: I have a 32 team chise going and we are in the 2011-12 season. McNabb was benched by me in washington because he had 10 interceptions in the first 5 games. Meanwhile Ryan Fitzpatrick is in the top 10 in passing.
I can't explain these guys stats....I play as all teams (visiting one week, home the next) so its not as though it ME having the hot or cold streaks.

It seems the "luck of draw" inherent in the game (I find different teams to perform differently week in and week out) creates hot and cold streaks.

My worry: Take McNabb in my chise.....now for me I may plug him back in and he may do better I dont' know...but with Dynamic Player Performance, will his ratings continue to fall each week as he plays poorly, thus insuring that he'll play worse and worse as the year goes on and just basically become useless? For that matter will Fitzpatrick turn into a HOF QB because his ratings keep improving? I mean player ratings should be static to some degree no? I realize guys can suddenly "get it" and jump start their careers etc. But isn't it usually the case that a guy may have a nice year but its just a 'career year" and they fall back to their usual performance afterwards (Matt Castle for one, and I expect Michael Vick to be more the player he was in Atlanta next year.....but you get my point).

Just concerned that this could turn into a Frankenstein that destroys my franchises like little german villages going up in flames < Frankenstein movie reference>......I play as Manning and have a bad game and then his ratings drop and he has a worse game and drops again etc. (this was stated in the blog that "if he has a bad game his ratings will drop).

Or, is this random? That he'll get hot or cold no matter what I do. In which case I find it pointless.

[jmurphy31]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

First, I wouldnt worry just yet and lets jsut wait until E3 to hear exactly how it works. Second, I think it will be random and during a cold streak your stats will decrease, but at some point it will start moving back upwards

I think of it as Tecmo Super Bowl where players went from Excellent, Very Good, Average, Bad, and there stats and performance would change...I still remember some of the beasts in that game whne they were excellent condition and nerely impossible to stop, while some players who were bad couldnt stop fumbling.. With all that said after a few games the player would back in the opposite direction...

[shnuskis]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Yup, I have been wondering this too. Lets say my first two games are against Pit and Balt. My running back, heck my whole offense struggles in 13-10 and 10-7 games. Is my whole offense now in a slump and now can't perform to its fullest when we look to exploit the Lions lousy secondary?

[RGiles36]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Man, everyone seems to be so worried lately about certain aspects of M12. Not to suggest that Madden has earned a whole lot of optimism, but I'm surprised at how many threads have popped up about concerns that may or may not be warranted at this point.

The ratings reset after a maximum of 3 weeks according to the blog. And I don't imagine the rating swings will be as drastic for the majority of players -- just the relatively inconsistent ones.

We should have more fleshed-out info about this feature this week and certainly next week.

[Jarodd21]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Yup, I have been wondering this too. Lets say my first two games are against Pit and Balt. My running back, heck my whole offense struggles in 13-10 and 10-7 games. Is my whole offense now in a slump and now can't perform to its fullest when we look to exploit the Lions lousy secondary?

Haha! I kind of was wondering the same thing. If I have a crap game one week do alot of my players drop off and I end up having a low rated team the next week against a garbage team? I wonder if its at least going to be an option to turn this off if I don't like it.

[mjhyankees]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

First, I wouldnt worry just yet and lets jsut wait until E3 to hear exactly how it works. Second, I think it will be random and during a cold streak your stats will decrease, but at some point it will start moving back upwards

I think of it as Tecmo Super Bowl where players went from Excellent, Very Good, Average, Bad, and there stats and performance would change...I still remember some of the beasts in that game whne they were excellent condition and nerely impossible to stop, while some players who were bad couldnt stop fumbling.. With all that said after a few games the player would back in the opposite direction...

What is "E3"?

[RogueHominid]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Man, everyone seems to be so worried lately about certain aspects of M12. Not to suggest that Madden has earned a whole lot of optimism, but I'm surprised at how many threads have popped up about concerns that may or may not be warranted at this point.

The ratings reset after a maximum of 3 weeks according to the blog. And I don't imagine the rating swings will be as drastic for the majority of players -- just the relatively inconsistent ones.

We should have more fleshed-out info about this feature this week and certainly next week.

This is amusing to me, too. It's a bit melodramatic. To the best of our knowledge, the resetting of upward and downward trends every three weeks is being implemented to keep this feature from getting out of hand. I'm not sure what cause there is for worry here.

I proposed this scenario in another thread: it could very well be that several members of your team go cold at the same time. That would be cool from a realism perspective and worrisome for a coach, but not worthy of worry from a gamer's perspective. To me, that's the worst case scenario--your team goes ice cold and underperforms in a significant stretch of games. I wouldn't worry about that, though; I'd embrace it.

[mjhyankees]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

This is amusing to me, too. It's a bit melodramatic. To the best of our knowledge, the resetting of upward and downward trends every three weeks is being implemented to keep this feature from getting out of hand. I'm not sure what cause there is for worry here.

I proposed this scenario in another thread: it could very well be that several members of your team go cold at the same time. That would be cool from a realism perspective and worrisome for a coach, but not worthy of worry from a gamer's perspective. To me, that's the worst case scenario--your team goes ice cold and underperforms in a significant stretch of games. I wouldn't worry about that, though; I'd embrace it.

My concern is because THE GAME ALREADY DOES THIS. Anyone could tell you that they go through streaks in franchise mode...thats with no DPP....wouldn't you expect the streaks to be more pronounced if you are essentially penalized for having a bad game?

Also, I already find that a team's ovr is no guarantee of a win...however if sliders etc are right, the high ovr teams should usually have the better season. If everyone goes streaky you could have high ovr teams ending up with losing records etc.

I just don't see the point of this feature because the game already does this. I don't know if you play much franchise mode, but don't you already have streakiness? I didn't have a pick for 5 games and then picked Peyton 3x in one game. What will that look like with DPP? I've had other guys in the slider section of the forum talking about how they suddenly can't run the ball for a few games, or are getting torched on the pass etc. It seems to be in the game already. This appears like a classic case of over managing to me. yes, we'll wait and see how it is etc but I'm willing to bet you'll see lots of complaints from FMers like myself because it will add to a streakiness that already seems built into the game......hmmm........
Makes me wonder if they've had it all along and are simply now presenting it as a "new" feature. EA wouldn't do that to us, would they?

[roadman]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

What is "E3"?

E3 is a major electronic show that electronic companies have the opportunity to discuss what they are coming out with in the next year.

Apple, MS, Sony, and the major software companies. I think this takes place in a few weeks. That whole week is crazy with video after video shown of NCAA and Madden.

[RGiles36]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

I proposed this scenario in another thread: it could very well be that several members of your team go cold at the same time. That would be cool from a realism perspective and worrisome for a coach, but not worthy of worry from a gamer's perspective. To me, that's the worst case scenario--your team goes ice cold and underperforms in a significant stretch of games. I wouldn't worry about that, though; I'd embrace it.

Absolutely. I'm a bit pumped for this feature myself. I have some questions regarding the functionality that I imagine will be answered here soon, but I'm excited about it.

I liken it to a situation I had in NBA2K where virtual Ray Allen had gone cold this past weekend. You gotta put on your thinking cap, and re-strategize on the fly. The same is true when 'Melo has heated up and my defense is having a tough time slowing him down. I know basketball & football is apples & oranges, but the idea is the same and it translates great in-game.

[mjhyankees]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Absolutely. I'm a bit pumped for this feature myself. I have some questions regarding the functionality that I imagine will be answered here soon, but I'm excited about it.

I liken it to a situation I had in NBA2K where virtual Ray Allen had gone cold this past weekend. You gotta put on your thinking cap, and re-strategize on the fly. The same is true when 'Melo has heated up and my defense is having a tough time slowing him down. I know basketball & football is apples & oranges, but the idea is the same and it translates great in-game.

I think I'd rather see in game streakiness...that seems more realistic to me....momentum in NCAA was interesting.

[mjhyankees]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

Here's the big question: Is the player's streakiness due to his inconsistency or the fact that the opposing team may or may not match up well with him, or the guy opposite him is having a good or bad day? I think in game streakiness is more realistic.

[bkrich83]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

I wouldn't say worried but I am always concerned when they roll out a new feature like this. It usually takes them a version or two to get them balanced correctly.

[Argooos]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

I'm not too worried. This is basically in there instead of putting progression at various points in the season like in last-gen. Rather than having ratings permanently change every three weeks due to stats, they are having them temporarily change on a week-by-week basis, with a maximum of a 3 week swing in either direction. The amount of the swing will depend on the consistency and confidence ratings of each player I'd imagine. Personally I would have preferred if they just went with progression every few weeks, since that would allow players to actually lose their starting jobs/gain their starting jobs through performance. With DPP, they might lose/gain their job for a few weeks, but then their ratings pop back to normal and they go back to their original depth chart position. DPP would probably actually be more realistic without the 3 week cap, instead just having a cap on how high or how low a player can fluctuate over the course of a season.

[RGiles36]

Re: Anyone worried about Dynamic player performance????

My concern is because THE GAME ALREADY DOES THIS. Anyone could tell you that they go through streaks in franchise mode...thats with no DPP....wouldn't you expect the streaks to be more pronounced if you are essentially penalized for having a bad game?

Also, I already find that a team's ovr is no guarantee of a win...however if sliders etc are right, the high ovr teams should usually have the better season. If everyone goes streaky you could have high ovr teams ending up with losing records etc.

I play franchise mode exclusively, and I can't agree that the game already does this.

Yes, I do have games when I consistently throw picks. Then I'll string along a few games where I throw no INTs. There's no science to it in my opinion right now -- it's a sports game and I can't expect any player to play the same week in, week out. If they did, we would cry that the game is broken because Peyton Manning never has a bad game.