Madden NFL 12 - Dynamic Player Performance to Play a Role During Games (IGN)

[SageInfinite]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

If done right, this could be truly awesome.

[splff3000]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

Nothing really new that we didn't already know from when IGN dropped the Franchise/Superstar news. Nice to know though that it can change play by play (which is how the NFL is).

Although I would love to have it in NCAA, I don't see a plausible way you can have it accurate (especially for all the true freshmen you have coming in that you have nothing to judge them on).

Blaze, blaze, blaze.... always trying to rain on the parade. Don't worry, it'll be in NCAA next year lol.

[Only1LT]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

I know it's probably a joke, but that's a lot of high school games someone would have to watch, and even less against actual competition on the same level as them (which most times would be 1-2 games, which wouldn't be enough).

It was a joke, but there is HS scouting though. It is readily available on the interwebs. It wouldn't be too hard to base approximations off of that if they were so inclined. They obviously do something like that now. How else do the Frosh have ratings at all?

Accuracy? That's another debate lol.

[splff3000]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

It was a joke, but there is HS scouting though. It is readily available on the interwebs. It wouldn't be too hard to base approximations off of that if they were so inclined. They obviously do something like that now. How else do the Frosh have ratings at all?

Accuracy? That's another debate lol.

Anyway, what's the difference from them having ratings for all these players? It's the same concept, right? They haven't seen the players play, but they have ratings for them...so why not traits? And why are we talking about NCAA? Last time I checked, this is the Madden forum. Let's focus on madden. It's obvious the EA devs have done that this year, right Blaze? :wink:

[justblaze09]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

There's a difference between knowing a person's physicals gifts and mental makeup. You know if someone has the physical tools thanks to the sites out here, but you really don't know how they have it together in their head until they step on that college field.

Anyway, back to Madden. This will be great and keep things fresh. Now people playing with Philly won't know which Michael Vick they will get, and it can bite them in the ***.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

Lol. Says the Cowboys fan

Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII.

In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume.

But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

[phillysouljah]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

Anyway, back to Madden. This will be great and keep things fresh. Now people playing with Philly won't know which Michael Vick they will get, and it can bite them in the ***.

You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year:

284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit
291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville
218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis
333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington
258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants
333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago
302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston
270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas
242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants
263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota
292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs

Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field.

What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season!

In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

[Only1LT]

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Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII.

In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume.

But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

I actually wasn't taking a shot at Romo. That's just too easy lol. I was making light of how it is typical of a Cowboy fan to rush to bash Eli. Could have been an Eagle or Washington fan. Would have made the same comment and it would have worked just the same.

[RGiles36]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

Yeah, like the pressure of beating the Cowboys in the run up to SB XLII.

In fairness, though, Eli doesn't have anything near Romo's playoff resume.

But back on topic, this stuff looks great. Can't wait to try it out.

You win LOL.

Back on topic -- I also wonder how these traits work against ratings. If a WR has catch rating of 90+, how does the 'drop passes' trait work along with it?

[Only1LT]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year:

284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit
291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville
218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis
333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington
258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants
333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago
302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston
270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas
242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants
263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota
292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs

Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field.

What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season!

In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

Just looking at TD to Int numbers, no he didn't really have a bad game, but there were many games down the stretch, where he failed to put a stamp on the game and was just there.

If it weren't for the dumbest Defense in the history of Football, you wouldn't have known he was there in either Giants game.

Even with all of Philly's weapons, it's pretty easy to keep Vick under wraps. You just need a defense that understands that you can never be a hero against Vick, only a victim on a highlight reel. Keep outside contain at all times, regardless of whether you think you can get to him on a particular play, and he will self destruct like always if forced to be a pocket passer for an entire game.

If you can't guess, I am not a believer in Vick's ability to beat a team passing consistently lol.

[LorenzoDC]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

I think the newest piece here from what we were told before was that player hot streaks within a game affect the play of their teammates, and not just their own performances.

That's way cool.

And to take some heat as a Giants fan, the eight minute collapse against the Eagles in week 15 last year, and the next week's performance against SB winning Green Bay, all had a psychological snowball effect element to them.

That's a prime case for what DPP is trying to bring into the game, and I think that rocks.

Packers and Eagles fans, you're welcome! (Well, not to the wins, but to my painful admission).

[justblaze09]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

It's more of a reference to what's being told in the news that is coming out. This is the 2nd time IGN has brought up Vick when talking about DPP, and the first time it talked about how he can take a big swing in ratings, while this time it brought up how he will quickly tuck it and run. We won't truly know until someone get their hands on the game, but it sounds like Vick will be kinda erratic.

[roadman]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

You know, people keep saying this but I'm puzzled. Is this a reference to Atlanta Falcons-era Vick? Eagles Vick was remarkably consistent last year.

Check the game logs. Even when there was a perception towards the back-end of the season that he had started to come back to earth, he was still remarkably good. I can't say he had a single bad game last year:

284 yards 2 TD vs. Detroit
291 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD vs. Jacksonville
218 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD plus 74 yards rushing vs. Indianapolis
333 yards 4 TD 2 rushing TD plus 80 yards rushing vs. Washington
258 yards 1 rushing TD vs. New York Giants
333 yards 2 TD 1 INT vs. Chicago
302 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Houston
270 yards 2 TD 1 rushing TD 2 INT vs. Dallas
242 yards 3 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT plus 130 yards rushing vs. New York Giants
263 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Minnesota
292 yards 1 TD 1 rushing TD 1 INT vs. Green Bay in playoffs

Did Vick even have a single bad game? No. He was good to stellar every time he took the field.

What? 258 yards a rushing TD against the Giants was bad? That was his least productive day all last season!

In Madden terms, Vick never dipped below, I'd say, an 85 all year.

Eh, good with Int's at the back end of the season? Nah, I'll take Rodgers 9 td's 2 int's in the playoffs and SB vs Vicks 1 and 1 at the end of the day. That's what is good to stellar.

Back on topic, I think I will love this feature a lot.

[azdawgpound]

Re: Dynamic Player Performance during games (from IGN)

this is gonna be an interesting yr for madden esp with this now and not just effecting the one player but whole team esp if your team like mine the browns have wr's that can't catch so say that effects team and what if the rb fumbles a few times should be very interesting how much it really effects the game... esp online i can see it already with ppl complaining that there one sided now because there afraid pass and have wr not catch ball or rb has bad day or defense.

[phillysouljah]

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I'm just pointing out how can new Vick be erratic and have 20-point swings if the man didn't even have a single bad game all last season? That makes no sense.

Even if Aaron Rodgers was better... who cares? This is not a comparison of QB's. It's trying to understand the basis for this claim that new Vick is erratic. How can he be when he didn't even have a bad game to dip down to?