I am not saying that either, all I am saying is I do not think we can say the computer shotgun running is broken yet. First of all, Oregon's offense/running game is not a 5 YPC running game, it is a feast or famine type running game based off of big plays. Oregon knows that they are going to have more running plays where they are going to lose/gain minimal yardage, what Oregon is looking for are those 4 or 5 runs a game that nets 40+ yards. Secondly, he was only able to play one quarter, who's to say Oregon's run game wouldn't have picked up in the other 3 quarters? Again, I am not defending the game yet, I just believe that we have not seen enough yet to make that judgement.
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I am not saying that either, all I am saying is I do not think we can say the computer shotgun running is broken yet. First of all, Oregon's offense/running game is not a 5 YPC running game, it is a feast or famine type running game based off of big plays. Oregon knows that they are going to have more running plays where they are going to lose/gain minimal yardage, what Oregon is looking for are those 4 or 5 runs a game that nets 40+ yards. Secondly, he was only able to play one quarter, who's to say Oregon's run game wouldn't have picked up in the other 3 quarters? Again, I am not defending the game yet, I just believe that we have not seen enough yet to make that judgement. -
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Well I guess the bottom line is, either way, you're right that we don't know for sure yet. Even the demo won't show us for sure since they make changes after the demo was submitted. Just have to wait and see. The last thing I want to say, and probably just to justify to myself why I am a little freaked about it, is that more than one person has said the same thing..."Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."
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I understand your concerns.Well I guess the bottom line is, either way, you're right that we don't know for sure yet. Even the demo won't show us for sure since they make changes after the demo was submitted. Just have to wait and see. The last thing I want to say, and probably just to justify to myself why I am a little freaked about it, is that more than one person has said the same thing...SCHUMJ's 1995 roster : http://www.operationsports.com/forum...box-360-a.htmlComment
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Man, the shotgun running news is such a downer. I was looking so incredibly forward to this game with all of the new improvements such as custom playbooks and coaching carousel. But, if running out of the shotgun is all but for naught, then my custom playbooks will be a lot less beefy than they should be. I am a total spread option guy and love to make the opponent guess and try and figure out where the ball is going and what not. I can't do that if I can't run out of the shotgun. And it honestly sucks playing the CPU and playing a team like Oregon that has the possibility of completely taking apart my defense and holding them to 20 yards on 30+ carries and winning 56-7, even on heisman. It just isn't fun that way and really takes away from the realism of the game.
Again, it is too early to say that this is broken or a game-killer, it is just really depressing info. Especially since over the past 4-5 years in college football, if you look at the top 5-10 rushing teams in the nation, there have been 0-1 pro-style offenses in there. It is almost always a spread-option team or a triple-option team. It is rarely a base, pro-style set with a few exceptions. This should be accounted for in the game. Look at auburn last year. Most of Cam Newton's runs were not broken plays, they were designed runs or zone read plays. If you can't run out of the gun, how can I fully utilize gus malzahn's innovative spread-option?
Not saying it's truly a problem, but it is very concerning and HAS TO BE addressed before release.Comment
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Well we got our answers as far as team ratings....
Oregon A+ offense
ASU B+ defense
Sorry guys but it looks like Oregon should have been moving the ball better than they were in the preview"Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."
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I seen that too, but I still think it is too early to tell. From what I have read in the video comments from the Auburn Alabama video (I still have not been able to watch the video yet) they were saying that there were some nice shotgun runs. Again, I cannot confirm this as I have not been able to watch it yet, but this was just one (most likely 2 - 5 minute) quarter.Comment
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From Hellisan:
"My concern remains with the cpu offense. I think we’re going to have to help them out with sliders, or you might see a lot of leagues running Heisman sliders this year. I just never gave up much in the way of points, and especially against teams that run the spread offense, you just don’t see a lot of successful strategy out of them.
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Kickoffs and punt returns are more varied, and I think you’ll see some touchdowns out of the special teams this year even in user games. You see some get blown up but the holes could open up in a bigger variety of ways and locations.
When a player gets injured there is now a very clear “re-injury risk” note and you can see the OVR of the guy behind him to determine if you want to put him in. At first I thought you could scroll through a few guys behind him on the depth chart but it’s just the guy directly behind him.
If a defender is not facing the ball carrier, he cannot initiate a tackle attempt. This will lead to the occasional Barry Sanders style run where a defensive guy gets turned around. I think the great run highlights will be a lot cooler this year.
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Playing NCAA and watching Madden I noticed that people that were constantly floating outside the pocket weren’t having any success. I stumbled upon one Madden game that was in the 3rd quarter and scoreless. Both guys had the typical Madden offense going and were not able to get anything going. I’m not saying that this problem is solved for sure because I don’t know but it doesn’t seem that the D breaks down when you bring a QB outside the pocket, and the line can generally break free much more quickly around the edge than on the interior.
The game manual is now available right in the game menus. Does this mean there will be no manual with the game? I don’t know. But it’s a nice little feature.
The indoor practice area still is not accessible when practicing from dynasty mode.""Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."
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All I know is that I'm going to see what plays the CPU QB's suck at running, and eliminate those entirely from their playbook.
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There were times last where teams just absolutely stuffed Oregon's running game. Sure most of the time Oregon's offense was a absolute juggernaut, but there were other times where teams just seemed to have Oregon completely figured out, and they couldn't do anything in the running game.Comment
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I will be upset if this is what has to happen to make the CPU call good plays. I do not buy the game to put an extra 2 - 3 weeks into sliders, rosters, and playbooks to get the game to be challenging without feeling cheated.Comment
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I also want the game to be ready to go out of the gates but that's not reality. I know that adjustments will need to be made to help the CPU be more efficient with their offense.
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My assessment of NCAA 12, from the videos I saw of the game it looks good. Reading people saying its a polished NCAA 11 is a good thing. If you've played 11 and like it alot you'll prob like 12. Madden got the goods this year cause they had too, NCAA prob be up again in a two years. Every sports game leaves stuff out we wish we had. But I think NCAA dedicated its self to the franchise player two years in a row. I rather have a polished game than a game with issues that can't be fixed. its funny we bitch and moan bout things wrong in the game day 1 and 2 and when they patch its messed up. How about we play for a week and give honest an assessment and instead of complaining because you haven't adjusted to the game.
My main gripe with the game is punt blocking and return. hopefully with the suction removal you can get through the line to block and with the return the players need to stay in their lanes and not form a congo line and play simon says with the returner.Comment

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