NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

[schumj]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

I have been an avid college football fan since 1993. Back then you could only watch like two games plus Notre Dame every Saturday. Sometimes you would get another couple if they were big games. So needless to say this I love history and college football. So I dove into this more. I decided to do a little more research just on these two teams for now.

I used ESPN's formula for figuring prestige score and calculated two different periods. I did the last 20 years (1991-present) and just the BCS era (1998-Present).

The formula uses NC's, Major Bowls, Major Bowl wins, Top 5 ranking 6-10 ranking, 11-25 ranking, Heisman winners, conference titles, Bowl games, bowl victories, 10 Win seasons, Weeks as #1 or #2, Wins over #1 teams, All Americans, 1st round draft picks and losing seasons.

Here is my findings:

LAST 20 YEARS
Missouri's score of 66.
Tennessee 323.

I don't think anyone would be surprised as Missouri has only seen recent success and Tennesse was very good in the 90's.

Now on to the BCS era.
Missouri's score 71 if you are wondering how it got better with less stats it is the losing seasons. You get -2 points for losing seasons and they have had less. So 71!

Tennessee's score 202

If you are wondering you only get 25 points for a NC so that is not the one thing pushing them over.

[Wildcats302]

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Ok I'll get in on the UT vs. Missouri thing.

UT owns Missouri in every aspect and this coming from a Kentucky fan that has every reason to loath UT football(trust me I do lol), but I have to give them their props on beating us all the time and having a good historical basis to work with. I will say this though, 1 national title in the past 53 years in 1998-1999 season, and that's it. I can see why they would be a 4-5 star team, and with them expected to have another 6-6 type season this year, I can see why EA put them at 4 star. When all you do now in the SEC is beat Vandy and UK in football, you can expect a drop off in prestige IMO.

[The JareBear]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

SO it should take 20 years of mediocrity before a team finally loses a sixth star in this game?

[poopoop]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but does anyone else think it's weird that way more teams have a higher off grade than def, vs the other way around.

Just skimming through the list real quick (I may have missed a team or two) I only saw: Bama, LSU, UConn, Virginia, Purdue, Marshall, Mid Tenn State, Idaho, UTEP,UAB. That's 10 teams. Meanwhile 10 of the top 12 teams have better offenses than defenses.

I first noticed this last year looks like it's the same again.

[poopoop]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Also just let people edit school prestige (and all the school's recruiting grades) so we can skip past these arguments about who is a 4 vs 5 star.

[The JareBear]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Also just let people edit school prestige (and all the school's recruiting grades) so we can skip past these arguments about who is a 4 vs 5 star.

Yeah, that definitely would be a nice feature not sure if they allow this currently do they?

I think the problem with the arguments trying to use real life history and to fuel the logic behind the ratings. In the game, if Florida goes 6-6, they drop a star no matter what. Same for Texas, same for anybody. Going off EA's rules for dropping or gaining a star in the offseason of a dynasty it makes sense that Dame dropped one. That is all I am saying.

Why Texas didn't drop one as well, I have no idea.

[Gloves 82]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Yeah, that definitely would be a nice feature not sure if they allow this currently do they?

I think the problem with the arguments trying to use real life history and to fuel the logic behind the ratings. In the game, if Florida goes 6-6, they drop a star no matter what. Same for Texas, same for anybody. Going off EA's rules for dropping or gaining a star in the offseason of a dynasty it makes sense that Dame dropped one. That is all I am saying.

Why Texas didn't drop one as well, I have no idea.

Yep. That's like I was saying. The game bases it strictly off winning games and no history.

[Orangemann]

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Curious to how VT is an A- when they have no ratings above a B+ in terms of offense, defense, and special teams.

How is their special teams a B- anyways? We have two of the best return me in the whole country on there...whatever.

[schumj]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

Now on to the BCS era.
Missouri's score 71 if you are wondering how it got better with less stats it is the losing seasons. You get -2 points for losing seasons and they have had less. So 71!

Tennessee's score 202

If you are wondering you only get 25 points for a NC so that is not the one thing pushing them over.

By comparison, Kansas St in the BCS era has a score of 106. So yah you could definitely say they have a terrible way of grading this in the game. Maybe if I did just the last 3 years it would be different. But I don't think there is any formula they use. If they did Notre Dame wouldn't have stayed a 6 star so long if they were only using the last 3-4 years, and many other teams wouldn't be where they are. We have always said that the developers did lack real knowledge of college football in the past, and I think their prestige is just someones opinion with very minimal research.

[The JareBear]

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Schum I agree that the system is flawed. But it is their system and going off of it some of the rating changes make sense (Notre Dame) and some don't.

[Gloves 82]

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Curious to how VT is an A- when they have no ratings above a B+ in terms of offense, defense, and special teams.

How is their special teams a B- anyways? We have two of the best return me in the whole country on there...whatever.

I always thought the special teams rating was only based off of the kicker and punter's ratings, but I may be wrong.

[poopoop]

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Schum I agree that the system is flawed. But it is their system and going off of it some of the rating changes make sense (Notre Dame) and some don't.

I'm gonna guess the rules they use to set a teams initial prestige are completely different than the rules for moving up/down in dynasty. A lot of it is probably just opinion.

[TheBrothers24]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Also just let people edit school prestige (and all the school's recruiting grades) so we can skip past these arguments about who is a 4 vs 5 star.

For some strange reason we can't edit team prestige along with other important things(in dynasty mode of course).

[TheBauerHour]

Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

Oregon is 6 stars and Nebraska, Florida State and Michigan are 5 stars.
Huh?

[NDFan1029]

Notre Dame was better last year than they have been in a while, yet they dropped a star this year instead of the years prior. That's strange.