Phil Frazier is Leaving EA Sports Tiburon

[ChaseB]

Here is an old post of mine showing a new, slimmer Phil compared to the older Phil.

I like the second one. It's relevant because he's clearly trying to show off the new wrap tackle pose -- or saying he wants the belt Rodgers/WWE style.

[bkrich83]

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With how much the game has changed, they'd need to basically rebuild They could build off of 2k8, but I think we'd be better off with a brand new foundation. I'm not sure 2k8's engine could handle the wildcat, or other modern offensive schemes/plays.

This is another topic though, I'll stop.

It is for another topic. But I don't think they would build off of 2k8. One day I'll ask about the turnaround time.

[misterkrabz]

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dunno...I haven't like the game in over 6 years (the entire life span of "next gen")...any change is good as far as I'm concerned. When I look back I still to this day shake my head over the decisions that have been made about the direction of the game and the things they have chosen to work on over the years. I think it's interesting that this is the first year where I'm actually considering getting Madden (based on the videos) and it just so happens to coincide with the exit of Ian and now this guy...coincidence? Maybe.

[kingkilla56]

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Why are all these guys leaving Madden in particular? What the hell is going on? Then again if I were working on Madden for 15 years I wouldnt mind moving on by now.

[canes21]

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I like the second one. It's relevant because he's clearly trying to show off the new wrap tackle pose -- or saying he wants the belt Rodgers/WWE style.

I am pretty sure he was being interviewed and was asked to do Aaron Rodger's belt celebration. But I like to think he is challenging Rodgers for the belt.

[DJ]

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Rumor on the street is that Frazier left EA to purse a career in MMA.

Seriously though, this is a surprise. Phil has been with Madden a long time and he will be missed. I was watching the bonus video features from Madden 2005 with Phil and some young dude named Ian Those were some cool videos and I appreciated the behind-the-scenes look and the look at the history of Madden.

Best of luck to you, Phil, in whatever you plan on doing next.

[Ian_Cummings]

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Ian and Phil pulling a West and Zampella and starting up a new football game elsewhere? lol Respawn Football?

EDIT: Better suiting name would probably be something like, 2nd Down Sports.

4th and Long Productions?

3 and Out, LLC?

[canes21]

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4th and Long Productions?

3 and Out, LLC?

3 and Out sounds nice.

You guys are probably teaming up with TheWatcher ,though, and helping him build the ultimate football game based off motion capture. Yea, that sounds about right...

[at23steelers]

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I like the second one. It's relevant because he's clearly trying to show off the new wrap tackle pose -- or saying he wants the belt Rodgers/WWE style.

Huh, I like the first one much better!!!

[Lodeus]

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4th and Long Productions?

You guys should go with that one

[Ian_Cummings]

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Ian, you're not apart of the company anymore so can you give us a better idea of what's going on over there? Your not on a "gag order" are you?

I guess I could, but I don't think it'd be all that wise. No reason to dwell on old stuff and air dirty laundry, especially against a place that was so great to me. As to why Phil left that's his personal call. He's not coming to our company (Row Sham Bow) as Pasta guesses, I do know that.

When I left, IMO Madden was really headed in the right direction. Outside of that, not much I can say.

[Broncos86]

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I guess I could, but I don't think it'd be all that wise. No reason to dwell on old stuff and air dirty laundry, especially against a place that was so great to me. As to why Phil left that's his personal call. He's not coming to our company (Row Sham Bow) as Pasta guesses, I know that,

When I left, IMO Madden is really headed in the right direction. Outside of that, not much I can say.

Fixed that for ya, Ian.

[Ian_Cummings]

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dunno...I haven't like the game in over 6 years (the entire life span of "next gen")...any change is good as far as I'm concerned. When I look back I still to this day shake my head over the decisions that have been made about the direction of the game and the things they have chosen to work on over the years. I think it's interesting that this is the first year where I'm actually considering getting Madden (based on the videos) and it just so happens to coincide with the exit of Ian and now this guy...coincidence? Maybe.

You do know we made this game right?

[BlueNGold]

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I guess I could, but I don't think it'd be all that wise. No reason to dwell on old stuff and air dirty laundry, especially against a place that was so great to me. As to why Phil left that's his personal call. He's not coming to our company (Row Sham Bow) as Pasta guesses, I do know that.

When I left, IMO Madden was really headed in the right direction. Outside of that, not much I can say.

So is this at all similar to the Live/Elite turnover where things might be going in a different direction in the future so certain people are moving on to other opportunities?

Assuming you can even answer this that is.

[Steve_OS]

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Met Phil at E3, quite some time ago. He is DEFINITELY a hardcore guy. I could tell, just from talking with him. Others can tell by reading tweets from him. Played Ian in one of the OS leagues (I'm 1-1 against him btw ). He is hardcore as well. Both guys will be missed, some of you guys might be eating your words when it comes time to give feedback for the game these 2 put into it. Who knows what the next guy will want. Maybe he goes to IGN or Gamefaqs to get feedback. You never know what you got, til it's gone.

On another note, don't people look for other jobs? I mean, who really wants to do the same thing year in and year out? Especially when PR and marketing have more say-so than the people that actually grind away at the game? Maybe they are leaving because of the money, maybe they are leaving because of all the politics that go on behind the scenes at EA (that none of us remotely have a clue about). Either way, Phil and Ian did what "they could do", while other things they had no control over, ruin their visions, then... of course... they get the blame.

Oh well, sad to see Phil go, but we all have to carry on. In the end, it's whatever makes them happy. You can't expect cherries on top of everything, no matter where you work.

I bet Phil and Ian are just as pissed off as the hardcore guy is, when they can't get something in the game