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  • khaliib
    MVP
    • Jan 2005
    • 2884

    #46
    Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

    Originally posted by backinblack23
    I say we wait and hold off on the pass rush conclusions.
    Can't do that, it needs to be addressed before release.

    We went through this dance last year of waiting and waiting and waiting for something to be done about the Pass Rush.

    Also, I have seen not one word about the 3-4 OLB Pass Rush issue.
    Especially since players are suppose to play towards their Classification this year (so they say) and OLB are only classified as Coverage and Run Stop.

    Maybe this only applied to the QB's with how weird things are prioritized with this game.

    Point blank though, the community made known this issue days after last years release and to see it constantly show in these vid's is an issue.

    Even is Zone plays are called, there should be some type of pressure.
    It doesn't have to be 2-4 sec pressure, but some type of pressure.

    Guys getting Stonewalled by "One" OL is GARBAGE.
    I can see if they are doubled teamed, but by one guy, that's just Junk-Tweaking.

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    • Playmakers
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 15419

      #47
      Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

      Originally posted by AirLobo23
      I'm trying really hard to find a difference in gameplay from '11 to '12 and i'm just not seeing it. This looks like NCAA '11 to me. I wish that wasn't the case and maybe the videos aren't doing the game justice. I'm still buying, but still, dissappointing
      I don't think it's a huge upgrade at all.....i think it's a more refined game with cosmetic improvements that's not a bad thing IMO.

      but did anyone really expect a major jump up from 11 to 12?
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      • AirLobo23
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        • Mar 2003
        • 1617

        #48
        Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

        Originally posted by Playmakers
        I don't think it's a huge upgrade at all.....i think it's a more refined game with cosmetic improvements that's not a bad thing IMO.

        but did anyone really expect a major jump up from 11 to 12?
        I'm not sure what i expected. To me Madden looks like it took a pretty big leap forward and i guess i was just hoping for the same with NCAA.

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        • noplace
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2121

          #49
          Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

          Why are the DE's still playing patty cake with the OT's? It seems they are programmed to do this regardless of how the play develops. Still didnt see much in pass trajectory but seen some Good tackle animations. Whats the deal with the commentary? Just pure silence between plays and KO's, its dreadful.
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          • Playmakers
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            • Sep 2004
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            #50
            Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

            Originally posted by AirLobo23
            I'm not sure what i expected. To me Madden looks like it took a pretty big leap forward and i guess i was just hoping for the same with NCAA.
            yeah i agree Madden really took off this year from what I'm seeing and recieved the biggest lift in gameplay

            I've been more of a fan of the NCAA series the last few years because of the flaws in Madden. But this year i think the roles might have reversed from what i'm seeing out of the videos for both games.

            It's not that NCAA 12 took a step back....it just seems a lot of it stayed bacially the same which is cool because I enjoyed NCAA 11 and i've played it all year.....

            But with the gameplay enhancements in Madden 12 including player roles for a guy like myself who loves to edit players i think Madden 12 is going to be unreal....can't waite to create some historical great players in Madden 12
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            • J-Unit40
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              • Sep 2005
              • 8261

              #51
              Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

              Originally posted by AirLobo23
              Also tackling looks exactly the same as last year and the gang tackling (or lack there of) looks nothing like Madden 12. Not sure why they aren't using the same tackling engine?
              No it doesn't. You need to go back and play NCAA 11.
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              • __Ry__
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                • Apr 2009
                • 27

                #52
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                Aren't the buffalo & pac 12 logos facing the wrong way? From the playcall screen/broadcast view, they should be right side up.

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                • canes21
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 22951

                  #53
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                  Originally posted by J-Unit40
                  No it doesn't. You need to go back and play NCAA 11.
                  Yea, I have seen so many new animations play out in all the NCAA 12 videos. Most of them were probably in the game for a while now, but are just now showing up because the lack of suction.

                  And NCAA does use the same tackling system as Madden, right?
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                  • AirLobo23
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                    • Mar 2003
                    • 1617

                    #54
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                    Originally posted by canes21
                    Yea, I have seen so many new animations play out in all the NCAA 12 videos. Most of them were probably in the game for a while now, but are just now showing up because the lack of suction.

                    And NCAA does use the same tackling system as Madden, right?
                    I don't know if it's the same tackling engine or not, but it certainly doesn't look the same; IMO anyways. When i watch a Madden 12 video i notice a difference immediately. I watched the entire video attached to this thread and i honestly think i could be watching NCAA 11.

                    Hey, i hope i'm wrong. I want it to be better and great. Just not seeing it yet.

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                    • 3bitz
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                      • Mar 2003
                      • 1523

                      #55
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                      Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                      Looks good. Commentary isn't anything special but other than that it's good.
                      And the defensive line still creeps up to the ball at the same time. In the video on several occasions ( at 4:26 is one of the times) the D-line moves in almost complete unison.

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                      • mgoblue678
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                        • Jul 2008
                        • 3371

                        #56
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                        A couple of other people mentioned it but the pass rush looks to be lacking again in this video, other than that is looks good. I do wish that they would remove that double cb blitz from the playbook though, that play has been useless the last several years and resulted in an easy td in this video. The CPU had a tendency to call that play pretty frequently in NCAA 10 and NCAA 11.

                        Really wish they would show a video of a User playing against a CPU team that runs a spread option offense. Still on the fence about the game, mainly because I want to see if they made the spread option more effective, particularly when it is run by the CPU. That will make or break the game for me. Also would like to see more games against the CPU, to see if CPU's QB's will actually scramble. Spread option offenses and mobile qb's who can make plays with their legs is just such a huge part of college football, I will be severely disappointed if those weren't addressed, regardless of what other improvements were made to the game.
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                        • J-Unit40
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                          • Sep 2005
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                          #57
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                          Originally posted by AirLobo23
                          I'm not sure what i expected. To me Madden looks like it took a pretty big leap forward and i guess i was just hoping for the same with NCAA.
                          Madden appears to have taken a big leap forward because it was pretty blah for the last 3 years. NCAA 11 was significantly better than Madden 11.

                          Madden 12 looks to be a really good game (possibly great game), but NCAA 12 is no slouch. I can see the differences in the first series of pretty much every video. Are there lingering issues? Sure there are. At the same time, it appears they improved on an already solid product that I played over 250 games or more of.

                          Hey, for the first time in years we look to be getting two really good football games that we can play constantly. No complaints here.
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                          • AirLobo23
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                            • Mar 2003
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                            #58
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                            Originally posted by J-Unit40
                            No it doesn't. You need to go back and play NCAA 11.
                            Guess we'll have to agree to disagree. Looks the same to me.

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                            • rspencer86
                              MIB Crew
                              • Sep 2004
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                              #59
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                              Not that this is a bad thing, because '11 was great, but this looks exactly like last year's version. Save the 3D grass, Pac 12 logo and some minor things in the playcalling screen, it's almost indistinguishable.
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                              • noplace
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                                • Jul 2004
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                                #60
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 gameplay - Utah @ Colorado

                                Originally posted by 3bitz
                                And the defensive line still creeps up to the ball at the same time. In the video on several occasions ( at 4:26 is one of the times) the D-line moves in almost complete unison.
                                Just horrible like they're in stealth mode or something. This tells you that the DL has no individual AI. They're not programmed to react to the play.
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