Well one thing is for certain

[Dabrwnhornet]

After getting NCAA 11 back today after not playing for 7 months, I will say this. If NCAA 12 still has the cpu comeback cheats, the suction running, and the 50 million fumbles that occur in the 1st quarter to place a USER in a no win situation when competing online, I WON'T be purchasing. NCAA 11 just has far too much gimmicky garbage to it that annoys the crap out of me and it all resurfaced after playing it again today.

I wanted to get back in the grind again, in preparation for NCAA 12, but EA's product makes it all too hard to enjoy the game. Having only one Company making a Sports game who DOESN'T CARE is just sickening to heart.

How is this gameplanning? A USER turns his "tackle" to aggressive so the entire game he's attempting fumbles. The game is ALREADY silly and gimmicky, and the cpu A.I. predetermines who's gonna win, so if you are the team that is on the bad end, any and every silly thing you can think of in this game is going to happen.

1) Fumbling on your first 3 possessions, even if you try to counter his gameplan by turning your run to conservative. You'll still fumble often because the cpu A.I. has you pegged as the predetermined loser of the game.

2.) Running to the line over and over to counter players glitching and cheesing defenders for nanos. And when you DO manage to beat a nano, your QB can't throw the ball accurately, or WR's run away from the pass so defenders can super glide for swats and ints.

3.) Dealing with horrible suction tackling and suction blocking while you're ALREADY placed at a disadvantage by the cpu.

4.) Watching USERS run QB's 15 yards backwards only to loft balls all over the field completed.

So many things about NCAA 11 that is absolutely ridiculous, it's hard to imaging EA using the same gaming engine, and blatantly lying about them being fixed. They may have added a bunch of cute features, but who cares about an entrance when once the game starts, you'll be ready to trade it in within 30 days?

[Redacted01]

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It has been said time and time again that suction has been fixed.

[SECElit3]

NCAA 11 is great with a good set of sliders and crap without them. It sounds like you didn't do any research or put time into doing the things that are required to turn NCAA from meh to outstanding.

I have absolutely never seen this comeback AI you are complaining about.

Anyway, 12 is almost here!

Online play will be always be garbage, but don't blame the developers, blame the idiots on the other end.

[ViLLiO]

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Online play will be always be garbage, but don't blame the developers, blame the idiots on the other end.

I blame both. That could definitely be minimized with a little effort. If they gave us a hardcore mode which would force us to sit in the pocket and make reads, I would be addicted to online quick matches.

[Wildcats302]

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After getting NCAA 11 back today after not playing for 7 months, I will say this. If NCAA 12 still has the cpu comeback cheats, the suction running, and the 50 million fumbles that occur in the 1st quarter to place a USER in a no win situation when competing online, I WON'T be purchasing. NCAA 11 just has far too much gimmicky garbage to it that annoys the crap out of me and it all resurfaced after playing it again today.

I wanted to get back in the grind again, in preparation for NCAA 12, but EA's product makes it all too hard to enjoy the game. Having only one Company making a Sports game who DOESN'T CARE is just sickening to heart.

How is this gameplanning? A USER turns his "tackle" to aggressive so the entire game he's attempting fumbles. The game is ALREADY silly and gimmicky, and the cpu A.I. predetermines who's gonna win, so if you are the team that is on the bad end, any and every silly thing you can think of in this game is going to happen.

1) Fumbling on your first 3 possessions, even if you try to counter his gameplan by turning your run to conservative. You'll still fumble often because the cpu A.I. has you pegged as the predetermined loser of the game.

2.) Running to the line over and over to counter players glitching and cheesing defenders for nanos. And when you DO manage to beat a nano, your QB can't throw the ball accurately, or WR's run away from the pass so defenders can super glide for swats and ints.

3.) Dealing with horrible suction tackling and suction blocking while you're ALREADY placed at a disadvantage by the cpu.

4.) Watching USERS run QB's 15 yards backwards only to loft balls all over the field completed.

So many things about NCAA 11 that is absolutely ridiculous, it's hard to imaging EA using the same gaming engine, and blatantly lying about them being fixed. They may have added a bunch of cute features, but who cares about an entrance when once the game starts, you'll be ready to trade it in within 30 days?

Playing online is boring as people just cheat and cheese. Offline dynasties are the way to go for fun and realistic football games.

[PVarck31]

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After getting NCAA 11 back today after not playing for 7 months, I will say this. If NCAA 12 still has the cpu comeback cheats, the suction running, and the 50 million fumbles that occur in the 1st quarter to place a USER in a no win situation when competing online, I WON'T be purchasing. NCAA 11 just has far too much gimmicky garbage to it that annoys the crap out of me and it all resurfaced after playing it again today.

I wanted to get back in the grind again, in preparation for NCAA 12, but EA's product makes it all too hard to enjoy the game. Having only one Company making a Sports game who DOESN'T CARE is just sickening to heart.

How is this gameplanning? A USER turns his "tackle" to aggressive so the entire game he's attempting fumbles. The game is ALREADY silly and gimmicky, and the cpu A.I. predetermines who's gonna win, so if you are the team that is on the bad end, any and every silly thing you can think of in this game is going to happen.

1) Fumbling on your first 3 possessions, even if you try to counter his gameplan by turning your run to conservative. You'll still fumble often because the cpu A.I. has you pegged as the predetermined loser of the game.

So you fumble your first 3 possessions every time. Interesting.

2.) Running to the line over and over to counter players glitching and cheesing defenders for nanos. And when you DO manage to beat a nano, your QB can't throw the ball accurately, or WR's run away from the pass so defenders can super glide for swats and ints.

This is why I don't play online, but I can see why this bothers you.

3.) Dealing with horrible suction tackling and suction blocking while you're ALREADY placed at a disadvantage by the cpu.

Really? Where have you been? Next time don't speak on something like you know what you are talking about before you do your research. Suction is gone. Proven in the videos.

4.) Watching USERS run QB's 15 yards backwards only to loft balls all over the field completed.

Again, Online issues. Not gonna change, every game has online exploits.

So many things about NCAA 11 that is absolutely ridiculous, it's hard to imaging EA using the same gaming engine, and blatantly lying about them being fixed. They may have added a bunch of cute features, but who cares about an entrance when once the game starts, you'll be ready to trade it in within 30 days?

Show me where they lied.

I will let this thread stay open for now, but its on a very short leash.

[NoDakHusker]

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I'd like to see you provide evidence for the "blatantly lying." Unless you have facts to back that statement up with, it's just you being bitter as the rest of your post indicates.

[hazey]

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I have absolutely never seen this comeback AI you are complaining about.

Agreed. I think people who complain about this don't know how to finish out games with the lead.

[Noble Evildoer]

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Agreed. I think people who complain about this don't know how to finish out games with the lead.

Disagree. I think there's both a comeback and letback AI in the game. Certainly at the Heisman level, maybe not so much on lower difficulties.

I'll be down by 21, catch up, and then suddenly the CPU starts scoring again. And it's not that I suddenly suck at defense (I always do) since I super sim defense.

It's really predictable in fact, and feels incredibly artificial. There's a lot of times where the CPU will just go into F*** You mode. They'll have a 3rd down, make a short pass, break seven tackles and just make it.

Or there will be times where you can almost predict that something horrible will happen. Your QB who is on fire and has 90 accuracy suddenly throws the ball 15 yards off target with nobody near him and it just so happens to go straight to a defender who is near absolutely nobody. And then he does it again and again.

[Dabrwnhornet]

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NCAA 11 is great with a good set of sliders and crap without them. It sounds like you didn't do any research or put time into doing the things that are required to turn NCAA from meh to outstanding.

I have absolutely never seen this comeback AI you are complaining about.

Anyway, 12 is almost here!

Online play will be always be garbage, but don't blame the developers, blame the idiots on the other end.

This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read concerning EA's football games. EVERYONE who plays these games knows about the "comeback A.I." I get sick of people blatantly lying to support their fanboyism.

[Dabrwnhornet]

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Agreed. I think people who complain about this don't know how to finish out games with the lead.

Many of these kids who claim to be great at this game, I destroy EVERY SINGLE TIME I play them. I've had a few loudmouths over on the EA Sports Forums talking sideways like this, and destroyed them in the game.

That doesn't excuse the fact these elements are still in-game. I was losing to a guy once because the 1st half was CLEARLY in his favor down 28-7 online. I eventually won 44-42 in one of the most ridiculous displays of football I've ever seen. Fumble after fumble, silly ints thrown for no apparent reason, and we both had our mics on and were actually laughing at how silly it looked. He fumbled at least 4 times in the 2nd half, and I ran two of them in, and he threw an int that I returned for a TD, and he was clearly yelling that the ball had no business going in that direction as he intended another WR.

I've seen this happen to me at an incredibly high rate while playing the cpu offline. If the cpu needs a stop, you'll fumble almost on cue, or take a silly looking sack. Or you'll get trapped in a vacuum animation and can't throw the ball to avoid a sack and it's a fumble, or your star player will take a silly hit and get injured so the cpu gets an advantage.

This stuff can't be made up. And those saying they never seen it DO NOT play these titles. Period!

[moylan1234]

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this is without a doubt the most ridiculous thread that I've ever seen on OS....and that's saying something

[jjbreez90]

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Probably the ONLY thing I agree with you on is the people dropping back 15 yards. They should implement something that severely lowers accuracy the farther back you go. The ball should also hang in the air a LOT longer and not go nearly as far as it does.

[SECElit3]

[QUOTE=Dabrwnhornet;2042502478]This is one of the dumbest posts I've ever read concerning EA's football games. EVERYONE who plays these games knows about the "comeback A.I." I get sick of people blatantly lying to support their fanboyism.

"Blatantly lying?" So someone else says that he or she sees something I do not. I state I do not and get called a liar and dumb for stating truth in terms of what I saw or did not see.

Trust me, I am not an EA fanboy, but I am apparently someone who is finding enjoyment in the game.

Of course you are entitled to freedom of speech, but I would suggest some restraint when calling someone a liar. My thoughts were my perception and I said nothing that attacked you directly.

With that being said, you should look into some sliders as well as coaching sliders. It will improve your experience Offline dramatically.

[NoDakHusker]

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This stuff can't be made up. And those saying they never seen it DO NOT play these titles. Period!

This must be the most ignorant post I have read in a long time. Your experience with the game does not equal everyone else's. If someone disagrees with you, who are you to say they are lying or have not played these titles?

Wow. Just wow.