NCAA Football 12 Video - Alabama at Oklahoma State

[ViLLiO]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

They say suctioning is gone, yet the DEs are getting suctioned into the OT on every single speed rush. Their same ol' little "dancing around the pocket" animation. That crap sucks.

Y'all better get ready for zone blitzes, because it's going to dominate '12.

[noplace]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

They say suctioning is gone, yet the DEs are getting suctioned into the OT on every single speed rush. Their same ol' little "dancing around the pocket" animation. That crap sucks.

Y'all better get ready for zone blitzes, because it's going to dominate '12.

Suction has been replaced with canned animations I guess

[NEW_ORLEANS]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

My god the crowd was dead. Too much dead air in between plays.

[splff3000]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

Why was this called 11 minutes of unedited gameplay when the video was clearly edited? lol

Anyway, I hate to say it, but if this vid had no title, other than a play or 2, I'd swear this was 11. On the very first pass in the game, the defender is in position to stop the pass, but just kinda slows down there and the WR runs past him to make the catch. Look at it again. He's in perfect position then something happens lol. You guys have already talked about the lack of a pass rush and the long fg's again, so I'm not gonna go into that. I'm prolly getting NCAA anyway, but I have been anything but impressed from the NCAA vids I've seen so far. They're not bad, they just......well............... they just look like 11.

[ViciousFoLife]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

The play around 7:30 was a nice brutal hit after the catch, one of those plays where I tell my WR sorry after putting him through that lol.

[LiquorLogic]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

The point of the video wasn't to show a pass rush. You can easily get one. We intentionally called zone defenses without blitzers/pressure to show everyone how the defenders were playing zones against different passes. You can get pressure in the game. We'll show that off in an upcoming video.

I sure hope the QB isn't able to roll out at will. That's what made me hang up NCAA 11. The DEs in Madden 11, and this video, are waltzing with the offensive tackles instead of getting up the field when rushing the passer. This allows the QB to roll out of the pocket at will and buy all kinds of time.

[boxtrev]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

I'm sorry, but we're five iterations into NG NCAA and EA still has not implemented things that were in the game last generation nor fixed things that we have been clamoring about for YEARS: no DL speed rush, horrible commentary, lack of FCS teams, mediocre presentation, absence of College Gameday.

I think one poster said it best when he used the word "ashamed." Honestly, if I put out a product like this with minor improvements from year to year, I'd be "ashamed."

[boxtrev]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

Oh. I forgot to add to that list non-existent Special Teams. Impossible to return a punt, impossible to miss a field goal, impossible to block punts or field goals. Meh.

[CTP]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

The Dreads already annoy me. C.J Mosely, Robert Lester, and Marquis Maze's all have dreads in that video.

[trobinson97]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

The Dreads already annoy me. C.J Mosely, Robert Lester, and Marquis Maze's all have dreads in that video.

So edit them out. Lester really does have dreads btw.

[outlaw24]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

i love the way they fixed zone coverage this year, and to clear everything up on pressure on the QB, if you think about it its 5v4 and most likely the ol are better as pass blocking than run blocking. see it all the time.

[AuburnAlumni]

No pass rush angers me.

[SteelerSpartan]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

Man that reminded me a little too much of 09's Impenetrable Wall O-Lines

A good front 4 should be breathing on the QB in an average of about 3-4 secs.....thats what you should be shooting for....3-4 Secs


And heres a Patch Tuner/Request already by the looks of that vid:

After you turn up the Pass Rush across the board

****Give the Interior DTs and 3-4 DEs more of a Power Push animation and less of the completely coming free variety......Have em push the OL right back into the QB****

And let the ratings of the DL vs OL, like strength, determine the speed of the push
Note: In most cases the OL should always be getting pushed back a little

Heres an example
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Now the 4-3 DEs/3-4 OLBs need to shoot off the ball and get up the field fast taking away that immediate roll out out that so many people like to do in these games



Listen Im still excited for the game, but these changes are desperately needed to enhance ,specifically, the Online gameplay and strategy

[JSHT21]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Video: Alabama at Oklahoma State featuring Zone D

I actually like what I've seen so far with Oline and Dline play... good balance.. yes this video seemed a little off from the others.

The thing that bothers me is the Shotgun running...

yes they ran two plays... the draw and what looked like a sweep.. I watched it an hour ago so forgive me if I'm wrong.

I know they ran a draw, and that was the one run play from shotgun last year that worked... Yes they got 4 yards on the other that is a good gain, but you can't tell if it will consistently be viable.

They seem to stay away from shotgun running in all videos, which worries me.

(Yes you could run from the shotgun last year by drastically changing sliders, but you shouldn't have to do that to run out of one formation.)

Hope they show some more of this..

All in all I loved the zone, and all has looked good, if only they could show the shotgun running, I know others want to see it.

[AuburnAlumni]

Realistic and effective pass rush is CRITICAL. Otherwise, you set yourself up for every game being 42-41, 38-35, 52-45, etc. No one should have 8-15 seconds to complete a pass. Defense becomes impossible at that point.

Not saying that's the case here, but if EA neutered the pass rush, that's exactly what it will turn into.