NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

[Rules]

Re: Demo Live Stream 6/21/2011

I love how on 3rd and 19 he runs a straight post route right into zone coverage and gets the first down. Come on man. (around the 14:30 mark)

Also, watch at the 20:40 minute mark, doesn't the CPU WR just cut straight out of bounds like a pinball for no reason?

One thing you have to give Ben credit for is he plays sim. He drops back realistically and stays in the pocket. I think this might almost be part of the problem, as since he doesnt scramble around and he stays in the pocket (hence getting pressured and sacked as he should be) he doesnt see the CPU get burned as often as they do with users who just run around all the time.

You might be onto something but I will throw out theory two. He doesn't run around as it would not show off the game in a good way.

[mtoo22]

I hate having to point out that in NCAA 11 sliders that made shotgun running efficient for the CPU made pro style teams unstoppable. It isn't an even level of efficiency universal of the slider attributes, so you have to change it week by week, which isnt a huge deal, but still, consider how glaring it was in NCAA 11 and the teams that played in the BCS game last season you would think they addressed the proble.

Exactly. You had to make one thing extremely overpowered in order to make it serviceable.

[dro412]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

Why do they keep making it 2 min quarters. Madden 11 had 5 min quarters in their demo. Most ppl that play sports games have played them for years. Why give us only 8 mins to play the game? Im gonna buy it but I still would like 5 min quarters to play intill it comes out. Pisses me off man!

[Sandman1924]

Kinda off-topic, but...

They added bands to the game this year, right? So is Notre Dame gonna have their band in the corner of the endzone like in actual games? It wouldn't make much sense to completely omit the band altogether or put them in an incorrect location if EVERY OTHER SCHOOL has their bands in the game.

Unfortunately, I think this may be the case. Having been in the band at Oklahoma and seeing where they put the bands in a couple dozen other stadiums, I haven't once seen a band placed correctly in any of the previews or videos released yet. I could be wrong and it might be a correction we see before July 12, but I wouldn't hold my breath. And with ND's band being at field level, I'd be even less hopefull...

I guess they expect us to be thankful for each small step they implement. "This year we added bands at pregame." 1 year later... "This year we added the bands back into the stands"... 1 year later "We moved the bands to their proper locations for our favorite top 12 schools..." you get the idea.

Honestly, though, even as a fan of all the pageantry and art they worked on this year, I was hopeing for an upgrade to teambuilder most of all. But if they got everything right each year, then we'd all have nothing to complain about and no reason to buy the game again the next year (especially if all you need to do is download a new roster...)

[khaliib]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed Today, Demo Streaming LIVE Now

Well for me...
I don't care if it's an early, late or P90X build.

What I do care about is seeing some real nice videos showing me the improvements.
Too many times in the past I've seen "Played great at E3" or "I can assure you I just had a few games in a row where the DL pressure was great!!"...only to get the retail and it was no where near what it was claimed to be.

So I'm assuming by the time the game hits the stores we will see a good amount of final build videos. I'm still pumped to get the game and will be watching closely for better showings of the game.
If I see it..day 1 purchase. If I don't...I'll wait and see what kind of reviews some of the member here (that I trust) have to say about it.

Game does look somewhat better in some areas compared to 11, but I want to just make sure of a few other items.

Bottom line is, it's just a game. If you like what you see get the game...if not, don't. No reason to go on and on about it.

This is why I Rent and see for myself.

Great Post all the way through.

[hurricanefootball4]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

Does the demo come out at 12:01 on the 28th or later in the day? Do I stay up for the demo or do I just wait until after work on the 28th to grab it?

[The JareBear]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

I don't know when Xbox Live updates their servers but I am pretty sure PSN updates around 2 pm. Could be wrong about that

[schumj]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

Does the demo come out at 12:01 on the 28th or later in the day? Do I stay up for the demo or do I just wait until after work on the 28th to grab it?

IDK about this year but I got last years downloaded around 1 am on XBOX live.

[TheTodd84]

Someone who actually makes an entire point (take notes Rules!).

Anyway, I would say it's a valid assumption, albeit, still somewhat off base. These are still two separate entities. The guys working on one thing are not on the other, so it's just incumbent on both sides to play into their roles. It's not like they go in saying we're not going to focus on known issues, let's just make it look prettier.

And even if that's not the case, if there were no presentation upgrades, there would be tons of complaints as well. I would hardly call it embarrassing adding pageantry into the game, and I am not one of those people who auto-skips intros -- I still watch the intros in NBA 2K11 for example. If you do skip then fair enough, but don't assume every gamer is like you.

If anything, the fact that EA already said it's going to be increasing the size of the football team says the company is serious about gameplay, which is an actual tangible fact.

just because they "increased the size of the football team" for NCAA does not necessarily mean they are focusing on gameplay. They are not mutually exclusive. We, and you, have no idea what the extra people are being used for in this instance. It is not a "tangible fact" that it is being used on gameplay just because EA says they are working on it. How long has EA said one thing and delivered another? When are we going to stop believing them? They are out to market their product, OF COURSE they are going to say they are "focused on gameplay" to please the masses and get people to shut up. Until the gameplay ACTUALLY changes and there are "tangible" changes, then really, nothing has changed. So it's not necessarily a fact because we can only speculate what their intentions are.

Until a spread running team like oregon picks me apart for 300+ yards rushing and 500+ yards of total offense and not just throwing the ball for slants or seams that can't be stopped and the CPU actually puts together a dynamic gameplan to pick me apart, just like, I dunno, oregon does IN REAL LIFE, then they will have showed me they have worked on gameplay. Until then, I will believe it when I see it.

Hopefully increasing the "football team" at EA will mean a football version of the "impact engine" FIFA is using. Until they use that, everything will be scripted and movement will be way off... as well as logic and how the game plays. Real-time physics would fix a lot of the gameplay issues w the CPU, like defensive linemen reacting WAY TOO QUICKLY to the zone read.

[Solidice]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

Does the demo come out at 12:01 on the 28th or later in the day? Do I stay up for the demo or do I just wait until after work on the 28th to grab it?

MS is pacific time, and so it could be as early as Midnight on the west coast to as late as whenever they fell like putting it out(they don't really have set day/time for marketplace updates).

I would say anywhere from 2AM to noon Pacific time would be the range it'll be up. personally, I would just wait until the next day when you wake up, it's not like it's going anywhere.

[TheTodd84]

Didn't mean to come off as vengeful... just want to know why people other than the people who actually are on these forums don't hold EA accountable for this baloney? It's the same thing, different year. College Football is based around the spread offense and the play-action and the zone read. So, WHY DONT THOSE WORK PROPERLY? There just really are not any excuses.

[TheTodd84]

And I guess... the ONE thing I'd like to know is why the EA marketing team continues to cater to the casual gamer? Am I the only one who realizes that casual gamers do NOT buy the game every year? They buy NCAA 09 and then that's it and play it until they get sick of it and trade it in when call of duty comes out. And if they don't like it, they probably didn't like it because it DIDN'T PLAY WELL. That is the definition of a casual gamer. The Hardcore guys on here are the ones who buy the game every single year because they are huge college football fans. Those are the MAJORITY of the buyers of this game. Casual gamers have their mom's buy them the game for christmas and aren't standing in line at midnight to buy this game.

That's where I feel like EA doesn't have their priorities right. Why are you catering your sports game, which is a genre more conducive to hardcore fans than most others, to casual gamers who may or may not purchase the game on a yearly basis? Especially since the hardcore people WILL buy it every year. It doesn't make business sense. You can only have so many new buyers of a game each year before you hit a ceiling. That's why madden hasn't increased in sales... the hardcore people aren't buying the game because it's garbage and the amount of casual gamers buying the games are spending their money elsewhere on games they are more interested in, like call of duty or LA Noire.

Am I the only one who notices this?

[nag5115]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

And I guess... the ONE thing I'd like to know is why the EA marketing team continues to cater to the casual gamer? Am I the only one who realizes that casual gamers do NOT buy the game every year? They buy NCAA 09 and then that's it and play it until they get sick of it and trade it in when call of duty comes out. And if they don't like it, they probably didn't like it because it DIDN'T PLAY WELL. That is the definition of a casual gamer. The Hardcore guys on here are the ones who buy the game every single year because they are huge college football fans. Those are the MAJORITY of the buyers of this game. Casual gamers have their mom's buy them the game for christmas and aren't standing in line at midnight to buy this game.

That's where I feel like EA doesn't have their priorities right. Why are you catering your sports game, which is a genre more conducive to hardcore fans than most others, to casual gamers who may or may not purchase the game on a yearly basis? Especially since the hardcore people WILL buy it every year. It doesn't make business sense. You can only have so many new buyers of a game each year before you hit a ceiling. That's why madden hasn't increased in sales... the hardcore people aren't buying the game because it's garbage and the amount of casual gamers buying the games are spending their money elsewhere on games they are more interested in, like call of duty or LA Noire.

Am I the only one who notices this?

I agree completely. I'm one of the hardcore fans, buy the games (madden and ncaa) every year. Last year madden was so terrible that i ended up not touching it after a few weeks and focused my time on NCAA. Likewise NCAA 10 was miserable to play I actually thought about not buying NCAA last year. It seems like every other year EA slacks on one game and puts all their effort to make the other better. Unfortunately I'm afraid that this may be the year they devoted to madden. Hope I'm wrong because the coaching carousel looks pretty nice, as well as the additions to RTG. Just waiting for that exclusive liscense to expire because I feel like 2K could make a sweet college football game or at the very least give EA some competition so they step their game up.

[acts238shaun]

Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Details Revealed, EA Demo Stream Available

just because they "increased the size of the football team" for NCAA does not necessarily mean they are focusing on gameplay. They are not mutually exclusive. We, and you, have no idea what the extra people are being used for in this instance. It is not a "tangible fact" that it is being used on gameplay just because EA says they are working on it. How long has EA said one thing and delivered another? When are we going to stop believing them? They are out to market their product, OF COURSE they are going to say they are "focused on gameplay" to please the masses and get people to shut up. Until the gameplay ACTUALLY changes and there are "tangible" changes, then really, nothing has changed. So it's not necessarily a fact because we can only speculate what their intentions are.

Until a spread running team like oregon picks me apart for 300+ yards rushing and 500+ yards of total offense and not just throwing the ball for slants or seams that can't be stopped and the CPU actually puts together a dynamic gameplan to pick me apart, just like, I dunno, oregon does IN REAL LIFE, then they will have showed me they have worked on gameplay. Until then, I will believe it when I see it.

Hopefully increasing the "football team" at EA will mean a football version of the "impact engine" FIFA is using. Until they use that, everything will be scripted and movement will be way off... as well as logic and how the game plays. Real-time physics would fix a lot of the gameplay issues w the CPU, like defensive linemen reacting WAY TOO QUICKLY to the zone read.

Fight Night increased their team, didn't help. The code was so bad the constant freezes broke many PS3's.

[NDFan1029]

just because they "increased the size of the football team" for NCAA does not necessarily mean they are focusing on gameplay. They are not mutually exclusive. We, and you, have no idea what the extra people are being used for in this instance. It is not a "tangible fact" that it is being used on gameplay just because EA says they are working on it. How long has EA said one thing and delivered another? When are we going to stop believing them? They are out to market their product, OF COURSE they are going to say they are "focused on gameplay" to please the masses and get people to shut up. Until the gameplay ACTUALLY changes and there are "tangible" changes, then really, nothing has changed. So it's not necessarily a fact because we can only speculate what their intentions are.

Until a spread running team like oregon picks me apart for 300+ yards rushing and 500+ yards of total offense and not just throwing the ball for slants or seams that can't be stopped and the CPU actually puts together a dynamic gameplan to pick me apart, just like, I dunno, oregon does IN REAL LIFE, then they will have showed me they have worked on gameplay. Until then, I will believe it when I see it.

Hopefully increasing the "football team" at EA will mean a football version of the "impact engine" FIFA is using. Until they use that, everything will be scripted and movement will be way off... as well as logic and how the game plays. Real-time physics would fix a lot of the gameplay issues w the CPU, like defensive linemen reacting WAY TOO QUICKLY to the zone read.

EA should've gone after the Euphoria engine from Backbreaker. If they had that, the game would be incredible. Gameplay-wise, it would open up a million doors for this franchise.