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  • Draconian Sanctions
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    • Jun 2011
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    #91
    Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

    Originally posted by Husker_OS
    Les Miles isn't very bright.
    Do you know the man? Have you met him at any point in your life? Or are you just being a jackass?


    His record at Oklahoma State was mediocre at best.
    They hadn't been to a bowl for like 13 of the 14 years prior to him arriving. People there say he laid the groundwork for their success to this day



    He took over an LSU that was 2 years removed from a 13-1 national title season and backed into a title with what most think is the worst national title winning team in decades
    Lots of opinion in there. The 2003 and 2007 trophies are right next to each other in the ops center. Neither looks much different to me.

    He's had boatloads of NFL talent and what has he done? He's 28-11 over his last 3 seasons with 0 SEC West titles, 3-6 vs his main rivals(Arkansas, Ole Miss, Bama), and 0 BCS bowl appearances(4 SEC teams have made one in the last 3 seasons).
    He made a poor decision initially with who he hired to replace Pelini and then he had to dismiss our Quarterback of the future Ryan Perriloux. He fixed the first problem and we've improved. In case you missed it, LSU was 11-2 and in the top 10 last year. I guess that's just luck, right?


    In that same span, the guy who built LSU into a power is 36-5 at another school he had to re-build upon arrival.
    What does this have to do with anything?


    Les Miles is what he is, an average coach with incredible luck.
    There it is. There's no such thing as getting "lucky" that often. He's a good coach and you just don't want to admit it because you're an Alabama fan who has a personal problem with LSU.

    How he landed the LSU job still baffles me. The guy was 28-21 at Oklahoma State and nabbed a top 10 job. He didn't deserve the LSU job.
    You must have missed the last game when our idiot outcoached your genius and knocked you out of the NC and SEC races. I guess it was just luck, right? Go back to listening to f-bomb, I'm sure he's waiting for you to call in and confess to poisoning some trees.
    Last edited by Draconian Sanctions; 06-22-2011, 06:01 PM.

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    • Caulfield
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      • Apr 2011
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      #92
      Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

      i don't think much of Les Miles as a coach, but as a leader, he's doing something right 'cause his players sure believe in him, & that's half the battle right there
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      • Husker_OS
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        • Jun 2003
        • 21459

        #93
        Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

        Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
        Or are you just being a jackass?
        You joined this site this month. Acting like this will result in a quick exit. Just letting you know as honestly, the more active posters in the CFB forum the better.


        They hadn't been to a bowl for like 13 of the 14 years prior to him arriving. People there say he laid the groundwork for their success to this day

        http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/yb/160420601
        28-21 is mediocre no matter where it is. The level of mediocrity may differ, but it's mediocre regardless. 28-21 at Ole Miss will get you fired and I place OSU on the same level prior to Gundy's last couple of years.
        Lots of opinion in there. The 2003 and 2007 trophies are right next to each other in the ops center. Neither looks much different to me.
        Only 2-loss national champion in the last 50 seasons. And ****, LSU didn't even have the best season for a BCS school in 2007. Kansas went 12-1 and 5 other BCS schools went either 11-2 or 12-2.
        He made a poor decision initially with who he hired to replace Pelini and then he had to dismiss our Quarterback of the future Ryan Perriloux. He fixed the first problem and we've improved. In case you missed it, LSU was 11-2 and in the top 10 last year. I guess that's just luck, right?
        Yes. You were lucky Tennessee couldn't do simple math on the last play of the game.
        What does this have to do with anything?
        Establishing a tier system in the SEC.

        Top tier includes Saban, Spurrier, and *cringe* Chizik/Malzahn.

        Middle tier includes Petrino, Miles, Richt, Mullen, Nutt, and probably Dooley.

        Bottom tier includes everyone else except for Muschamp since we can't rank him yet.

        There it is. There's no such thing as getting "lucky" that often. He's a good coach and you just don't want to admit it because you're an Alabama fan who has a personal problem with LSU.
        The dude has brass ones. I'll give him that. He's fearless and it pays off. But it requires luck to win with his coaching style. I don't have a problem with LSU. Alabama owns them and typically plays outstanding games with them.

        You must have missed the last game when our idiot outcoached your genius and knocked you out of the NC and SEC races. I guess it was just luck, right? Go back to listening to f-bomb, I'm sure he's waiting for you to call in and confess to poisoning some trees.
        We had a down year last season and you beat us in Baton Rouge. Congratulations.

        And let's get something straight here, South Carolina knocked Alabama out of the national title race, not LSU.
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        • gohogs141
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          #94
          Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

          Originally posted by Husker_OS

          Establishing a tier system in the SEC.

          Top tier includes Saban, Spurrier, and *cringe* Chizik/Malzahn.

          Middle tier includes Petrino, Miles, Richt, Mullen, Nutt, and probably Dooley.

          Bottom tier includes everyone else except for Muschamp since we can't rank him yet.
          Eh i would probably put Nutt in the bottom tier

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          • jeremym480
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            #95
            Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

            Aside from Nutt and probably Dooley, I'd take all the rest of those guys over Les. Talent wise he's had Top 3 teams in the SEC since he's been there and has managed very little aside from the NC that they backed into. To put it nicely, he's done LES (pun intended) with more.
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            • Draconian Sanctions
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              • Jun 2011
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              #96
              Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

              Originally posted by Husker_OS
              You joined this site this month. Acting like this will result in a quick exit. Just letting you know as honestly, the more active posters in the CFB forum the better.
              So it's ok for you to call some one an idiot but it's not ok for me to ask if you're being a jackass in response? Serious question.

              28-21 is mediocre no matter where it is. The level of mediocrity may differ, but it's mediocre regardless. 28-21 at Ole Miss will get you fired and I place OSU on the same level prior to Gundy's last couple of years.
              So, by your logic, Saban was a mediocre coach at Michgan State with his 34-24-1 record?

              Only 2-loss national champion in the last 50 seasons. And ****, LSU didn't even have the best season for a BCS school in 2007. Kansas went 12-1 and 5 other BCS schools went either 11-2 or 12-2.
              I don't really care about any of that. Saying you have worst BCS Champion is like trying to rag a guy for sleeping with the worst looking 10.

              Yes. You were lucky Tennessee couldn't do simple math on the last play of the game.
              Yes, we sure were. Trying to change personnel was a terrible decision on Crowton's part and Les made a mistake in not immediately overruling him.

              Establishing a tier system in the SEC.

              Top tier includes Saban, Spurrier, and *cringe* Chizik/Malzahn.

              Middle tier includes Petrino, Miles, Richt, Mullen, Nutt, and probably Dooley.

              Bottom tier includes everyone else except for Muschamp since we can't rank him yet.
              I don't really see how you can say that Chiz is all the sudden first tier after one great year where he bought the best player in college football. Time will tell how good he really is. Spurrier, i guess you could say has always been first tier, but his South Carolina teams have been 44-33, which by your own standard for Les, has to be considered mediocre, doesn't it?

              The dude has brass ones. I'll give him that. He's fearless and it pays off. But it requires luck to win with his coaching style.
              I don't have a problem with LSU. Alabama owns them and typically plays outstanding games with them.
              LSU has won 8 of the last 11. You don't own anything. Sure you beat us all the time when you had Bear Bryant. Congratulations, he was maybe the best coach of all time and he owned everyone. Since I've been closely following college football, LSU has owned Alabama.


              And let's get something straight here, South Carolina knocked Alabama out of the national title race, not LSU.
              False. If you had run the table after the South Carolina loss, you would have finished 12-1 SEC champion which certainly would have put you in the BCSCG against Oregon above undefeated TCU. Nice try though.

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              • Husker_OS
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                • Jun 2003
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                #97
                Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
                So it's ok for you to call some one an idiot but it's not ok for me to ask if you're being a jackass in response? Serious question.
                Where in the world did I call someone an idiot in this thread? Did you just out yourself as a previously banned user? Hmm..


                So, by your logic, Saban was a mediocre coach at Michgan State with his 34-24-1 record?
                Mediocre overall record, yes. His final season, 9-2, was great, but the first four were very mediocre. However, he's won national titles at 2 schools where the previous coaches were abysmal and he had to re-build programs.

                I don't really care about any of that. Saying you have worst BCS Champion is like trying to rag a guy for sleeping with the worst looking 10.
                Not really. But I guess when you've never experienced 13-0 or 14-0, you have to have that mindset.


                Yes, we sure were. Trying to change personnel was a terrible decision on Crowton's part and Les made a mistake in not immediately overruling him.
                Good to see you're not disputing you were lucky to beat Tennessee and avoid a meltdown season.

                I don't really see how you can say that Chiz is all the sudden first tier after one great year where he bought the best player in college football. Time will tell how good he really is. Spurrier, i guess you could say has always been first tier, but his South Carolina teams have been 44-33, which by your own standard for Les, has to be considered mediocre, doesn't it?
                Chizik with Malzahn is in the upper tier. If Malzahn leaves, we'll re-evaluate things, but he didn't. So as it is, the duo is upper tier.

                On Spurrier, his record with Florida in the 90s says enough. Throw in that he's got SOUTH CAROLINA as a pre-season pick to win their division a 2nd year in a row? S*** dude. They have 1 10-win season and before last season, had 1 championship of any sort(ACC 1969).

                LSU has won 8 of the last 11. You don't own anything. Sure you beat us all the time when you had Bear Bryant. Congratulations, he was maybe the best coach of all time and he owned everyone. Since I've been closely following college football, LSU has owned Alabama.
                We're 45-24 against LSU. That's ownage. Use your arbitrary time frames all you wish, but Alabama owns LSU. Hell, since you want to use time frames, you're 4-16 in the last 20 at Tiger Stadium against us.



                False. If you had run the table after the South Carolina loss, you would have finished 12-1 SEC champion which certainly would have put you in the BCSCG against Oregon above undefeated TCU. Nice try though.
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                • AuburnAlumni
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                  • Jul 2002
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                  #98
                  Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                  Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions


                  I don't really see how you can say that Chiz is all the sudden first tier after one great year where he bought the best player in college football. Time will tell how good he really is.



                  FYI...Chiz has already matched Lester's SEC and National Titles by year 2. Not to mention some ridiculously good recruiting under his regime.
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                  • Amoo316
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                    #99
                    Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                    Glad to see the reinforcements have arrived...about time guys. Pretty bad when even the LSU fans have been saying Les isn't the greatest game manager and the guy still won't give up. I guess carrying a jock around at LSU for 5 years makes you Les's BFF.
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                    • buckeye02
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                      #100
                      Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                      Where's the love in here? I thought the SEC loved each other.
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                      • Fredonia
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                        • Nov 2010
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                        #101
                        Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                        Originally posted by Block-O
                        Where's the love in here? I thought the SEC loved each other.
                        No, the true fans all hate each other...
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                        • Jr.
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                          • Feb 2003
                          • 19171

                          #102
                          Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                          Originally posted by Block-O
                          Where's the love in here? I thought the SEC loved each other.
                          Only when another conference has the audacity to challenge the SEC

                          My picks:
                          SEC West
                          LSU
                          Bama
                          Arkansas
                          Auburn
                          MSU
                          Ole Miss

                          SEC East
                          Georgia
                          South Carolina
                          UF
                          Tennessee
                          Kentucky
                          Vandy

                          LSU over Georgia

                          I think LSU will lose to Oregon to open the season and will finish with 2 losses total and won't make the BCS title game. 1st time in 6 years that a SEC team will not win the BCS title. As much as I would love to see Bama win the SEC, I don't trust McCarron or Sims to get it done, even though the defense should be top 5 in the country. Mistakes will be inevitable with either of those guys leading the offense. Look out for 2012 though
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                          • buckeye02
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                            • Jul 2009
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                            #103
                            Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                            Originally posted by Baughn3
                            Only when another conference has the audacity to challenge the SEC
                            Yeah i know. I was just messin' around.
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                            • Jr.
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #104
                              Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                              Originally posted by Block-O
                              Yeah i know. I was just messin' around.
                              Same here.
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                              • seasprite
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                                • Jul 2008
                                • 8984

                                #105
                                Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                                Originally posted by Husker_OS

                                Yes. You were lucky Chuck Smith couldn't do simple math on the last play of the game.
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