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  • ACardAttack
    Pro
    • Jul 2005
    • 715

    #256
    Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

    Originally posted by STLcardz-NDirish
    No 6* is for prestigious programs. I know ND hasnt been able to get it done on the field consistently, but they have the most tradition and continue to recruit well. I mean they were a 6* last year and finished with a better record this year so their prestige goes down? dont see the logic
    Army and Harvard have a lot of tradition too...if it wasnt for ND's well known name they would be a 3 star at best based on recent results....

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    • hookem10
      Rookie
      • Jun 2011
      • 119

      #257
      Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

      Originally posted by TDenverFan
      It seems like a couple of non-AQs randomly lost prestige.

      Fresno 3 to 2 after an 8 win year
      Hawaii 3 to 2 after an almost top 25 Year
      There may be others I didn't see

      Also, I noticed Wazzou is the only 1* AQ, not Duke. And Texas is still 6*?!?! Houston, a 4* last year, went 5-7 year, dropped a star. Texas, a 6*, went 5-7 and didn't drop a star.


      Also, thanks for posting!
      Complaining that Texas is still a 6* is beyond stupid. We've had 1 bad year in the last 13 and somehow you think that justifies moving us down to a 5* school? I guess 3 straight top 5 recruiting classes, a streak of 10 straight 9 win seasons and 9 straight 10 win seasons, a National Title, a Rose Bowl Win, a Fiesta Bowl win and another appearance in the NC game don't really warrant a 6* prestige rating according to you.
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      • He1nousOne1
        Rookie
        • Jun 2011
        • 329

        #258
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

        I'm thinking that it is possible the Fresno State and Hawaii drops are in part due to the loss of Boise State and Nevada (in the future) to the MWC. The quality of their conference opponents will take a massive drop due to such movements. When your conference takes a massive prestige hit like that then it would make sense that the individual programs that are tied to it will take one as well.

        Texas is the premier program in the Football State. It is the number #1 jewel to be had in competition to build super conferences. Despite a freakish 5-7 season I really don't think there is a team in the nation that is More deserving of 6* then Texas. I am not saying there are no equals but Texas is up there and it takes more then One bad season to pull them down.

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        • coogrfan
          In Fritz We Trust
          • Jul 2002
          • 15649

          #259
          Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

          Originally posted by hookem10
          Complaining that Texas is still a 6* is beyond stupid. We've had 1 bad year in the last 13 and somehow you think that justifies moving us down to a 5* school? I guess 3 straight top 5 recruiting classes, a streak of 10 straight 9 win seasons and 9 straight 10 win seasons, a National Title, a Rose Bowl Win, a Fiesta Bowl win and another appearance in the NC game don't really warrant a 6* prestige rating according to you.
          As I pointed out when he posted this, his example was in error--Houston was a 3* program in last year's game, not a 4.

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          • pigsooie3
            Rookie
            • Jun 2010
            • 107

            #260
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

            These ratings don't mean anything really. How can a team that lost all of their impact players on offense still be rated an A overall? Bama doesn't even have a starting qb right now. Alabama and Arkansas have the same overall offensive grade, now that is funny. Arkansas has arguably the best receiving group in the nation, we have a back coming off a 1,300 yard season and a quarterback who many say CAN be as good as Mallett. I really don't care what these grades look like, I'm just ready to see what the individual player ratings look like. Arkansas gained a prestige star as well. Let's go Bobby P. PIG SOOIE!!!
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            • Wildcats302
              MVP
              • May 2011
              • 1057

              #261
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

              Originally posted by pigsooie3
              These ratings don't mean anything really. How can a team that lost all of their impact players on offense still be rated an A overall? Bama doesn't even have a starting qb right now. Alabama and Arkansas have the same overall offensive grade, now that is funny. Arkansas has arguably the best receiving group in the nation, we have a back coming off a 1,300 yard season and a quarterback who many say CAN be as good as Mallett. I really don't care what these grades look like, I'm just ready to see what the individual player ratings look like. Arkansas gained a prestige star as well. Let's go Bobby P. PIG SOOIE!!!
              1. Alabama has 2 very good young QBs...not deciding on one yet does not warrant not having one. It might be a step down from McElroy but that's expected. That said, they do not need a good QB to win this year, just a game manager.
              2. Alabama has a RB that is more physically talented than the one they just lost. Richardson will dominate, and their depth at the position will result in them running, running, and running over people some more this year.
              3. They have a solid core of WR's returning and I think the Carter kid transfer from OSU will start and do well. None will be Julio that's for sure.

              Arkansas definitely has the better offense though on paper, but Alabama will probably have the best D in football this coming year and has their two toughest games at home in Arkansas and LSU(IMO, these are the two toughest opponents for them). Arkansas is really the only team Bama will play this year that has an offense that should and will cause the Bama defense some issues throughout the game against them. I can't wait for that game to be honest.

              The SEC West is loaded and will be brutal this year, on the game and in real life.

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              • pigsooie3
                Rookie
                • Jun 2010
                • 107

                #262
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                Originally posted by Wildcats302
                1. Alabama has 2 very good young QBs...not deciding on one yet does not warrant not having one. It might be a step down from McElroy but that's expected. That said, they do not need a good QB to win this year, just a game manager.
                2. Alabama has a RB that is more physically talented than the one they just lost. Richardson will dominate, and their depth at the position will result in them running, running, and running over people some more this year.
                3. They have a solid core of WR's returning and I think the Carter kid transfer from OSU will start and do well. None will be Julio that's for sure.

                Arkansas definitely has the better offense though on paper, but Alabama will probably have the best D in football this coming year and has their two toughest games at home in Arkansas and LSU(IMO, these are the two toughest opponents for them). Arkansas is really the only team Bama will play this year that has an offense that should and will cause the Bama defense some issues throughout the game against them. I can't wait for that game to be honest.

                The SEC West is loaded and will be brutal this year, on the game and in real life.
                I can agree with some of that, but I don't think you can rate guys based on what you think they will become. Remove the team name off the players and rate them based on what they are able to do not on who they play for. Alabama will be good but they have some unproven guys in key positions on offense and I bet those players will be rated like they are all americans. Sept 24th Arkansas will shock the world in Tuscaloosa. SEC West is more than brutal this year as it was last year.
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                • blkrptnt819
                  MVP
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2062

                  #263
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                  Originally posted by knighthawksfan
                  I think the ratings are fine but I hope ohio state drops in rating since Pryor isnt there anymore. I was wondering are they going to have an update to take him off the game?
                  Pryor? Who is Pryor? There is no Pryor on NCAA 2012. OSU Qb# 2 will be there because the game is not based on real life. He's gonna run you ragged in ur dynasty unless you take him out. It really doesn't effect me considering I haven't started a dynasty with OSU ever.
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                  • blkrptnt819
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2062

                    #264
                    Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

                    Originally posted by hookem10
                    Complaining that Texas is still a 6* is beyond stupid. We've had 1 bad year in the last 13 and somehow you think that justifies moving us down to a 5* school? I guess 3 straight top 5 recruiting classes, a streak of 10 straight 9 win seasons and 9 straight 10 win seasons, a National Title, a Rose Bowl Win, a Fiesta Bowl win and another appearance in the NC game don't really warrant a 6* prestige rating according to you.
                    Absolutely agree
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                    • The JareBear
                      Be Good To One Another
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 11574

                      #265
                      Re: NCAA 12: TSO breaks down all 120 teams ratings and prestige

                      You guys DO realize that in the game, in the actual game when you play a dynasty mode with Texas and you had as season like they just had you would go down a notch right?

                      The issue isn't about what is right or wrong, the issue is why do team ratings change outside of the box that don't the follow rules that dictate team ratings changes inside the box. All the fanboys need to relax. It isn't about Notre Dame, it isn't about Texas, nobody has a vendetta against anybody.

                      We are trying to figure out WHY changes were made and why some weren't due to a lack of consistency regarding prestige rules EA themselves set. Thats it, its an objective discussion, please stop being so defensive.
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                      • jjbreez90
                        Rookie
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 87

                        #266
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                        I honestly don't have a problem with the ratings (I do with the Prestige, but it really isn't a big deal)

                        I am pretty sure it is for balancing online. They gave us the ability to edit the rosters so we can play realistic Dynasties, but online they don't want the same 4 teams being used. With everyone rated high you will have more teams used Online and playing a game like Washington vs Alabama won't be an automatic win for Bama.
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                        • The JareBear
                          Be Good To One Another
                          • Jul 2010
                          • 11574

                          #267
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                          Originally posted by jjbreez90
                          I honestly don't have a problem with the ratings (I do with the Prestige, but it really isn't a big deal)

                          I am pretty sure it is for balancing online. They gave us the ability to edit the rosters so we can play realistic Dynasties, but online they don't want the same 4 teams being used. With everyone rated high you will have more teams used Online and playing a game like Washington vs Alabama won't be an automatic win for Bama.
                          You probably nailed it right on the head here. I just still think it sucks. In real life you still see good teams getting blown out by better teams but with the default rosters you wont see that.
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                          • AUsouthpaw2013
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 108

                            #268
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                            Hmm... looks ok for the most part. I'm curious how Michigan got B+ overall defense after how bad they were last year on that side of the ball. I like how they tweaked the prestige ratings a little, bumping Auburn up to 6 and Notre Dame down to 5 was nice.
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                            • He1nousOne1
                              Rookie
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 329

                              #269
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                              Michigan really does have some quality athletes on the team. They are not the top notch calibre that Michigan has gotten in the past but they are by no means horrible. The problem lately has been the leadership and when that is the problem it doesn't matter how good the quality of individuals is. I'm hoping now that individual coaches are simulated and tracked that the leadership side of the equation will now be part of Dynasty. Without that Michigan will be a top 10 team every year in the game once again despite their lackluster performances lately on the real field.

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                              • BTG
                                Banned
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 579

                                #270
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Team Ratings and Prestige Revealed (Tradition Sports Online)

                                OT, but does anyone else have problems viewing the page from their phone? It cuts off the entire left side of the screen and I can only read half the team names, if that. Odd.

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