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  • Cutter15
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    • Oct 2010
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    #151
    Originally posted by gohogs141
    I wouldnt say definately when we beat the east champ 41-20 last year on the road. Alabama will be rough though...hopefully we can load up to stop the run
    I think your first objective will be figuring out a way to get in the endzone. Before you can do that, nothing else matters.
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    • Draconian Sanctions
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      #152
      Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

      Originally posted by Cutter15
      You're absolutely right about LSU. Even if they end up as a talented team this year, Lester's lucky horseshoe is due to run out! Hopefully the NFL season doesn't get cancelled or it will be a sad year on the bayou.
      Very ignorant post

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      • RebelHog
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        #153
        Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

        Originally posted by Cutter15
        I think your first objective will be figuring out a way to get in the endzone. Before you can do that, nothing else matters.
        If we had a running game in 2010, Alabama goes down and goes down ugly. You know that and I know that. Will it be tough? Yes. Impossible? Hardly.

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        • auburntigersfan
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          • Aug 2006
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          #154
          Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

          Originally posted by RebelHog
          If we had a running game in 2010, Alabama goes down and goes down ugly. You know that and I know that. Will it be tough? Yes. Impossible? Hardly.
          It isn't like Kniles Davis played horrible against Alabama, he just didn't get many carries. Arkansas' strength was their passing game and Alabama's largest defensive weakness was their pass defense. The only way Arkansas was going to win that game was through the air with a flawless performance from Mallett, his mistakes cost them the game.

          Anyways, Arkansas did have a running game last year, Kniles Davis alone averaged over 100 yards rushing per game. So is your point that if Alabama wasn't so good against the run (what their defense is known for being good at) you would've beat them?

          I suppose if Arkansas had a rush defense last year Auburn would've gone down ugly, too.
          Last edited by auburntigersfan; 06-29-2011, 10:16 PM.
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          • RebelHog
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            #155
            Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

            Originally posted by auburntigersfan
            It isn't like Kniles Davis played horrible against Alabama, he just didn't get many carries. Arkansas' strength was their passing game and Alabama's largest defensive weakness was their pass defense. The only way Arkansas was going to win that game was through the air with a flawless performance from Mallett, his mistakes cost them the game.

            Anyways, Arkansas did have a running game last year, Kniles Davis alone averaged over 100 yards rushing per game. So is your point that if Alabama wasn't so good against the run (what their defense is known for being good at) you would've beat them?

            I suppose if Arkansas had a rush defense last year Auburn would've gone down ugly, too.
            If we had Penn Wagers in our back pocket we could've turned fumbles into ghost touchdowns, and our defensive tackles could cheap shot after the whistle also. Can't wait for you Whore Eagles to come to Fayetteville.

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            • auburntigersfan
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              #156
              Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

              Originally posted by RebelHog
              If we had Penn Wagers in our back pocket we could've turned fumbles into ghost touchdowns, and our defensive tackles could cheap shot after the whistle also. Can't wait for you Whore Eagles to come to Fayetteville.
              You know what they say about excuses.
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              • Cutter15
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                #157
                Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
                Very ignorant post
                Ignorant as in true? You're pretty naive if you don't think LM is the luckiest coach in the country. All I'm saying is that luck will run out. Maybe this year, maybe not.
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                • Cutter15
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by RebelHog
                  If we had Penn Wagers in our back pocket we could've turned fumbles into ghost touchdowns, and our defensive tackles could cheap shot after the whistle also. Can't wait for you Whore Eagles to come to Fayetteville.
                  It's easy to pick on somebody in a down year, huh?
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                  • Draconian Sanctions
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                    #159
                    Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                    Originally posted by Cutter15
                    Ignorant as in true? You're pretty naive if you don't think LM is the luckiest coach in the country. All I'm saying is that luck will run out. Maybe this year, maybe not.
                    Ignorant for a couple of reasons:

                    Just about every successfull team (including Bama) has had just as much "luck" go their way. I can think of 3 games in 2009 just off the top of my head that you were very fortunate to win because of a ball bounce or a referee's call or whatever. Does that mean Saban is just "lucky"? Of course not. He coached his team to be ready for those situations and to take advantage of them, and take advantage they did. Every team that has success, at some point in time, will have things go their way because of something out of their control. People love to claim Les is just "lucky" in order to rationalize the cognitive dissonance they feel when they see Les having success. They don't think he should be having that success because (a) He's not the best public speaker in the world, and a bit goofy at times. Because of this, people simply assume he must be stupid, and therefore a bad coach and (b) because he makes a lot of unconventional decisions in timely situations. Rather than recognizing that Les is a master of choosing when and how to make those calls, they simply dismiss it as "lucky" because again, they experience cognitive dissonance when Les has success because they don't "feel" as if he should, so as a result they feel as though they must somehow rationalize the conflict between what they "feel" to be true and the reality they are faced with. Simply labeling it as "lucky" is the simplest way to do that. This is basic human psychology .

                    The only game LSU has been truly lucky to win since Les has been the coach is Tennessee last year.
                    Last edited by Draconian Sanctions; 06-30-2011, 10:18 AM.

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                    • AUChase
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                      #160
                      Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                      Originally posted by RebelHog
                      If we had Penn Wagers in our back pocket we could've turned fumbles into ghost touchdowns, and our defensive tackles could cheap shot after the whistle also. Can't wait for you Whore Eagles to come to Fayetteville.
                      Cheers.

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                      • ImTellinTim
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                        • Sep 2006
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                        #161
                        Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                        Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
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                        Basing arguments on assumptions as to how others feel is a logical fallacy.

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                        • Draconian Sanctions
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                          #162
                          Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                          Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                          Basing arguments on assumptions as to how others feel is a logical fallacy.
                          It's really not an assumption, as I've heard many people spew the same flawed argument re: Les for years now. They flat out tell me that's how they feel. That's more than a fair sample size and while it certianly doesn't account for everyone, and it's perfectly fair to be criticial of Les without going way overboard as most do, in my experience very few are able to make that distinction. If you can give me some alternate reasoning I would love to hear it.
                          Last edited by Draconian Sanctions; 06-30-2011, 10:54 AM.

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                          • ImTellinTim
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                            • Sep 2006
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                            #163
                            Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                            Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
                            If you can give me some alternate reasoning I would love to hear it.
                            I can't speak for what others think of him. My take on it is the guy's a good coach. He makes what you call "unconventional" decisions at times. I call them low-percentage. Also, I feel like he doesn't exercise good control over clock management at the end of games. At some point, that will catch up with him. That being said, I wouldn't have been pissed if he came to Michigan.

                            I thought your post was the most elaborate way to say "haterz gonna hate" I've ever seen.
                            Last edited by ImTellinTim; 06-30-2011, 10:46 AM.

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                            • Draconian Sanctions
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                              #164
                              Re: SouthEastern Conference Predictions

                              Originally posted by ImTellinTim
                              I can't speak for what others think of him. My take on it is the guy's a good coach. He makes what you call "unconventional" decisions at times. I call them low-percentage. Also, I feel like he doesn't exercise good control over clock management at the end of games. At some point, that will catch up with him. That being said, I wouldn't have been pissed if he came to Michigan.
                              He definitely has had issues with clock management all the sudden the last few years. It wasn't really a problem at all his first 4 years here and Oklahoma State people seem to indicate that it wasn't a problem there either. I'm not really sure what the explanation is but hopefully it's something that will be fixed with a new offensive coordinator. I guess we'll find out.

                              The unconventional decision stuff, I think it works so much because he has so much confidence in his players, and in turn they have confidence in themselves so they go out and do it. Also he doesn't make those decisions in a reckless way, as they are almost always perfectly timed.

                              He has his flaws as a coach. He's not as proficient in X's and O's as a Bobby Petrino or a Nick Saban. As of right now I would say he is a very solid coach who is going to have the chance to elevate himself or vice versa the next few years with the talent he's brought in. It will be tough to defend him if LSU loses 3+ games in 2011 and 2012. He needs at least an SEC title and prefferably another NC.



                              I thought your post was the most elaborate way to say "haterz gonna hate" I've ever seen.

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                              • Cutter15
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                                #165
                                Originally posted by Draconian Sanctions
                                He definitely has had issues with clock management all the sudden the last few years. It wasn't really a problem at all his first 4 years here and Oklahoma State people seem to indicate that it wasn't a problem there either. I'm not really sure what the explanation is but hopefully it's something that will be fixed with a new offensive coordinator. I guess we'll find out.

                                The unconventional decision stuff, I think it works so much because he has so much confidence in his players, and in turn they have confidence in themselves so they go out and do it. Also he doesn't make those decisions in a reckless way, as they are almost always perfectly timed.

                                He has his flaws as a coach. He's not as proficient in X's and O's as a Bobby Petrino or a Nick Saban. As of right now I would say he is a very solid coach who is going to have the chance to elevate himself or vice versa the next few years with the talent he's brought in. It will be tough to defend him if LSU loses 3+ games in 2011 and 2012. He needs at least an SEC title and prefferably another NC.
                                this is kinda what I was implying when I said he was lucky. I have never thought he was a bad coach, he just makes similar mistakes far too often to stay competitive in this conference. Believe me, if the UT game was my only point of reference this would not be an issue. I'm not the type of person to complain when my team doesn't win. The only point I was trying to make is his decision making could ultimately cost him his job.
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