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  • jwilphl
    Legal Advisor
    • Jun 2009
    • 1499

    #1336
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    A couple more issues I've spotted:

    - Already commented on poor AI QB logic, but now I see the QB hiking and then immediately throwing the ball sideways out of bounds and into the stands.
    - Intentional grounding penalties are NEVER called. The only penalty I have seen is an encroachment penalty when I got the CPU DT to jump offside.
    - Wide receivers not looking for the ball--the ball will be very accurate to their position but they won't look up and attempt to catch it. As such the ball just flies by them. Cost me a fake punt--WR was wide open too.

    Plenty of graphical bugs:
    1. The background over-blurring during a replay--literally nothing behind the player can be made out because of so much blur.
    2. Players and/or referees disappearing during a replay.
    3. Lack of referee collision detection which creates some weird anomalies.
    4. Oregon's yellow helmets become a really dull Notre Dame gold, and even Texas's white helmets dull to an in-between white & gray. Not sure why this happens--either because it is at night or the colors are just wrong in-game. Prior to the game they looked fine (uniform selection).
    5. Weird camera cuts where the wrong players will be seen or they will literally disappear after a play.
    6. Strange glitch where sections of the stadium start "flashing" black. Hard to explain.
    7. The 3D grass looks very strange at times, almost like a water-color painting and/or it twitches.

    This is playing on the PS3, and I admit this is a demo so I don't know how many of these issues exist in the full version (hopefully none). Merely pointing out anything strange I spot in case it is useful to the developers.

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    • SportsGamerShow
      Rookie
      • Apr 2011
      • 21

      #1337
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      My impressions of the demo:

      Pluses:
      -HDR lighting
      -New collision based tackling system
      -Zone defense
      -3D grass
      -Team traditions

      Minuses:
      -Floating/Skating of players
      -Game speed
      -Psychic DBS
      -Minor glitches
      -Commentary

      TBD:

      -Dynasty
      -Custom Playbooks
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      • sundevildave
        Banned
        • Oct 2010
        • 50

        #1338
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Graphics look like $hit. Maybe its just because its the demo, but honestly looks like a step backwards from '11. All that time spent creating team specific run-ins doesn't make me want to drop $70 on a game thats not that much of an impovement of 2011. Taking down the 2011 dynasty web just pissed me off even further. Not going to buy it.

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        • Voldemort
          Banned
          • Jun 2011
          • 53

          #1339
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          Linebackers still seem to be swatting down every pass over the middle (at least on Heisman, anyways).

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          • thesteamontheboat
            Rookie
            • Jun 2008
            • 220

            #1340
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            I'm not seeing the uniforms getting dirty at all...
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            • AtlBuckeye
              Rookie
              • Jun 2011
              • 6

              #1341
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              I have played around 6 games on AA alternating between the teams, so far I think the game is really sick with the improvements but I am encountering a few problems.

              -Seems a lot harder to run, a lot of my runs I can't make it to second level because the lineman blocks the end for literally a split second, gives up on the block and all of the sudden the end is in the backfield. I have maybe busted a big run (15-25 yd) once to twice a game tops.

              -Superman d-line knocking down passes, same with CB's and OLB's who are out of position magically sliding into position within a split second to knock a pass down

              -Also forgot that one play my WR made a catch on the sidelines going out of bounds, play is reviewed and he had an NFL in bounds catch but the call was overturned. Completely wrong.

              -Anyone else notice the defender going for an interception button is like delayed...I can't really explain it. Oregon QB threw a last ditch ball into the corner of the end zone and my corner was standing in front of the WR for an easy pick, I switch to the corner and hit Y to intercept the pass and literally the ball goes over his head and the WR catches it and my CB does some gimp *** attempt at a catch 5 seconds after i pushed the button which cost me a game tying touchdown

              Overall I am impressed, because I have played AA my whole life and even last year some games were close but most were semi- easy wins for me. Seems this year that AA is going to be a challenge. I don't care if you play heisman my dick is bigger than yours
              Last edited by AtlBuckeye; 06-30-2011, 06:24 PM.

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              • jboss13
                Rookie
                • Jul 2010
                • 101

                #1342
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Impressions after about 50 or so games. Lol.

                Pros:
                -Game feels much more fluid
                -New Tackling system is great
                -Presentation is much improved
                -Defense is much better
                -New Formations and new plays
                -Game is more competitive

                Cons:
                -You don't have as much control with your player as you did on '11
                -Shotgun running is only effective when you have a lineman pulling
                -Read option is 50/50 even if you make the correct read
                -Linebackers still making superman leaps
                -Secondary is constantly getting beat deep
                -Cannot user catch
                -Defense is still psychic
                -Jumping the Snap is NOT a good thing
                -Don't feel much weight or momentum
                -When trying to return a pick, a lineman usually runs my cb down
                -Blockers are not blocking defenders when they are right in front of them
                -Can only run speed option successfully half of the time
                -When you hot route a defensive player they go to the specific zone and just stand there

                Overall the demo is much better than NCAA '11, just some things that need tweaking.

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                • JakeReaves
                  Rookie
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 300

                  #1343
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  I'm really digging the cut-blocking I'm seeing from the receivers and some linemen. Being a GT guy, I appreciate a good cut-block. Bama's and Oregon's WR's have been doing a good job, I really can't wait to see if it's implemented this well within the flex-bone offense. If it is....LOOK OUT FOR ME

                  ps I think a lot of people are being too harsh on the game/demo. We knew we weren't getting a new engine so you're not gonna see a complete overhaul of our game. Look at NCAA '02-'08 ('05 hurt a little): all good games because they added small things each year to the game we had to make it better. I think they've added some nice little things this year as well; that's all I can really ask for as a 29yr old gamer.

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                  • blkrptnt819
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2055

                    #1344
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    If my whole line gets pancake at the start of the play by Alabama in the retail version I'm gonna be HOT!!!
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                    • SteboSSK
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 821

                      #1345
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Lol at these dorks that think Coaching Carousel is a real improvement. Its nothing but a fancy way for u to select a new team and will only be utilized by people who aren't hardcore fans of a particular school; and most cfb fans are hardcore fans for one school. Presentation is useless if that dnt upgrade the real gameplay issues. Reducing suction and improving zone are plusses but if that's all u get? They didn't even touch the player animations. Honestly who the hell is watching pregame intros EVERY game. Those things should b the cherry on top not advertised as meat and potato improvements.

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                      • kevj349
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 214

                        #1346
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Originally posted by SteboSSK
                        Lol at these dorks that think Coaching Carousel is a real improvement. Its nothing but a fancy way for u to select a new team and will only be utilized by people who aren't hardcore fans of a particular school; and most cfb fans are hardcore fans for one school. Presentation is useless if that dnt upgrade the real gameplay issues. Reducing suction and improving zone are plusses but if that's all u get? They didn't even touch the player animations. Honestly who the hell is watching pregame intros EVERY game. Those things should b the cherry on top not advertised as meat and potato improvements.
                        I respectfully disagree sir. If you created a poll here on OS most people will tell you that they will start with a sub par team and work their way up to a bigger better school, such as their alma mater. People in this community love the addition to the game.
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                        • solmon
                          Pro
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 890

                          #1347
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Originally posted by blkrptnt819
                          If my whole line gets pancake at the start of the play by Alabama in the retail version I'm gonna be HOT!!!
                          Gig 'Em

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                          • AUsouthpaw2013
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 108

                            #1348
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            I've played about a dozen games on AA, I've played with everyone at least twice. Here's what I see:

                            Pros:
                            -Menu music is pretty sweet
                            -Crowd sounds better
                            -New tackling engine is pretty good
                            -No suction blocking or tackling
                            -Can actually get pressure with a 4 man front
                            -Zone defense is much improved
                            -Safeties in a Cover 2 shell are no longer comatose and will actually step up and make plays on the ball
                            -Harder to score
                            -Has the new ESPN College Football theme music and background art
                            -Seems like there are less Olympians playing linebacker
                            -No more "pull left trigger to disguise your play" nonsense in the play calling screen
                            -Kickoff returns are now fun

                            Cons:
                            -Read options are completely broken, it's almost impossible to option off the DE. Almost every zone read gets blown up in the backfield by the DE regardless of who has the ball. In ~10 serious games I have run about 50 read options and have abount -75 yards on those plays. This must, MUST be fixed in the real thing.
                            -Seems like DBs still know the receiver's routes
                            -Play Actions seem to be pretty ineffective still
                            -Bubble screens are still pretty useless
                            -Alabama's O-line is OP as hell. Synchronized pancakes by the whole line on every third play is just ridiculous.
                            -OT, but I wish the "Saturday Night Football" theme (with ESPN on ABC) was in the game for nationally telecast games in the evening.
                            -Crowd sound was enhanced, but the home field advantage factor still seems to be very muted (ie, no shaking screen, confusion at the line etc)
                            -No more dancing with the mascot after a touchdown

                            I got a little sidetracked there at the end but you get the gist of it. Read options and uber pancakes have to be fixed before release. I can live with the rest.

                            Also, has anyone blocked a kick yet?
                            Last edited by AUsouthpaw2013; 06-30-2011, 09:02 PM.
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                            • micksharp
                              Rookie
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 88

                              #1349
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              With sliders at default I loved the read option on 11 and it's even better on 12 you just can't expect it to work every time. I think it's perfect where it is.

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                              • The JareBear
                                Be Good To One Another
                                • Jul 2010
                                • 11560

                                #1350
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                Yeah I have ran the read option just fine on AA and heisman

                                Not sure why people say otherwise
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