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  • AUsouthpaw2013
    Rookie
    • Jan 2011
    • 108

    #1351
    Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

    I've played about a dozen games on AA, I've played with everyone at least twice. Here's what I see:

    Pros:
    -Menu music is pretty sweet
    -Crowd sounds better
    -New tackling engine is pretty good
    -No suction blocking or tackling
    -Can actually get pressure with a 4 man front
    -Zone defense is much improved
    -Safeties in a Cover 2 shell are no longer comatose and will actually step up and make plays on the ball
    -Harder to score
    -Has the new ESPN College Football theme music and background art
    -Seems like there are less Olympians playing linebacker
    -No more "pull left trigger to disguise your play" nonsense in the play calling screen
    -Kickoff returns are now fun

    Cons:
    -Read options are completely broken, it's almost impossible to option off the DE. Almost every zone read gets blown up in the backfield by the DE regardless of who has the ball. In ~10 serious games I have run about 50 read options and have abount -75 yards on those plays. This must, MUST be fixed in the real thing.
    -Seems like DBs still know the receiver's routes
    -Play Actions seem to be pretty ineffective still
    -Bubble screens are still pretty useless
    -Alabama's O-line is OP as hell. Synchronized pancakes by the whole line on every third play is just ridiculous.
    -OT, but I wish the "Saturday Night Football" theme (with ESPN on ABC) was in the game for nationally telecast games in the evening.
    -Crowd sound was enhanced, but the home field advantage factor still seems to be very muted (ie, no shaking screen, confusion at the line etc)
    -No more dancing with the mascot after a touchdown

    I got a little sidetracked there at the end but you get the gist of it. Read options and uber pancakes have to be fixed before release. I can live with the rest.

    Also, has anyone blocked a kick yet?
    Last edited by AUsouthpaw2013; 06-30-2011, 10:02 PM.
    Always remember….. Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.

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    • micksharp
      Rookie
      • Sep 2010
      • 88

      #1352
      Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

      With sliders at default I loved the read option on 11 and it's even better on 12 you just can't expect it to work every time. I think it's perfect where it is.

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      • The JareBear
        Be Good To One Another
        • Jul 2010
        • 11574

        #1353
        Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

        Yeah I have ran the read option just fine on AA and heisman

        Not sure why people say otherwise
        "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

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        • jboss13
          Rookie
          • Jul 2010
          • 101

          #1354
          Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

          I say otherwise because it does not work majority of the time. I'm not stupid I don't think I should have 10+ yards every time I run it. The play should not get blown up in the backfield by 4+ defenders every time I keep the ball especially when I make the right read. Ncaa '11 on the other hand had it down pat. It was a really good weapon.

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          • canes21
            Hall Of Fame
            • Sep 2008
            • 22455

            #1355
            Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

            Originally posted by jboss13
            I say otherwise because it does not work majority of the time. I'm not stupid I don't think I should have 10+ yards every time I run it. The play should not get blown up in the backfield by 4+ defenders every time I keep the ball especially when I make the right read. Ncaa '11 on the other hand had it down pat. It was a really good weapon.
            Myself, and probably the majority will disagree with you. Last year it didn't work that great. An improvement over past years? Easily, but so far from the demo all runs from the shotgun including reads, draws, etc. all feel great and play out like I feel they should.
            “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


            ― Plato

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            • The JareBear
              Be Good To One Another
              • Jul 2010
              • 11574

              #1356
              Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

              Originally posted by canes21
              Myself, and probably the majority will disagree with you. Last year it didn't work that great. An improvement over past years? Easily, but so far from the demo all runs from the shotgun including reads, draws, etc. all feel great and play out like I feel they should.
              Exactly, I just don't get it.

              Maybe somehow we are playing different demos but I have had great success with shotgun running on Heisman and on AA
              "Successful people do not celebrate in the adversity or misfortune of others."

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              • canes21
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2008
                • 22455

                #1357
                Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                Originally posted by SteboSSK
                Lol at these dorks that think Coaching Carousel is a real improvement. Its nothing but a fancy way for u to select a new team and will only be utilized by people who aren't hardcore fans of a particular school; and most cfb fans are hardcore fans for one school. Presentation is useless if that dnt upgrade the real gameplay issues. Reducing suction and improving zone are plusses but if that's all u get? They didn't even touch the player animations. Honestly who the hell is watching pregame intros EVERY game. Those things should b the cherry on top not advertised as meat and potato improvements.
                You obviously don't completely understand what a CC can do. With teams hiring and firing coaches we will see programs rise, programs fall, stay mediocre, etc. In year 7 of my dynasty GT might hire a new coach who brings in a pass heavy offense which is completely opposite of their current triple option scheme. It isn't just a new way of picking schools like you imply. It goes far beyond that. I may be a bit critical of EA's CC, but it's still a big addition to the series.

                They didn't touch player animations? Really? How do you know this? I've seen numerous new animations, even dive catches.

                And I watch the intros every single time I play. I may skip them here and there on the demo, but when the full game comes out and I am in year 15 of my dynasty, you can bet I will have watched every single entrance by the teams.
                “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


                ― Plato

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                • AUsouthpaw2013
                  Rookie
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 108

                  #1358
                  Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                  Originally posted by jaredlib
                  Exactly, I just don't get it.

                  Maybe somehow we are playing different demos but I have had great success with shotgun running on Heisman and on AA
                  What system are you on?
                  Always remember….. Goliath was a 40 point favorite over David.

                  -Shug Jordan

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                  • jboss13
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 101

                    #1359
                    Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                    Originally posted by jaredlib
                    Exactly, I just don't get it.

                    Maybe somehow we are playing different demos but I have had great success with shotgun running on Heisman and on AA

                    This is a good thing if it truly works for you because that means that the concept is not messed up overall and it could just be good defense. I hope that's what it is. And the demo's read option compared to NCAA '11's read option doesn't really compare. But that's JMHO.

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                    • SteboSSK
                      Pro
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 827

                      #1360
                      Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                      Originally posted by canes21
                      You obviously don't completely understand what a CC can do. With teams hiring and firing coaches we will see programs rise, programs fall, stay mediocre, etc. In year 7 of my dynasty GT might hire a new coach who brings in a pass heavy offense which is completely opposite of their current triple option scheme. It isn't just a new way of picking schools like you imply. It goes far beyond that. I may be a bit critical of EA's CC, but it's still a big addition to the series.

                      They didn't touch player animations? Really? How do you know this? I've seen numerous new animations, even dive catches.

                      And I watch the intros every single time I play. I may skip them here and there on the demo, but when the full game comes out and I am in year 15 of my dynasty, you can bet I will have watched every single entrance by the teams.
                      I understand exactly what it is...the main factor in it is what you the USER do in it...you saw programs rise and fall long before CC. Ive been in dynasties where Northwestern became a beast of a team...there is nothing wrong with CC but gameplay mechanics shouldnt play 2nd fiddle to it. Like I said and alot of people will agree or disagree. This game could have easily passed for NCAA 10. A few new dive catches and adjustments are nice but I dont think you realize the lack of effort over time. This is the 5th next gen installment. If you look at 08 and this version the difference is not vast. No one is asking for an overhaul in one year but after 5 installment they should be building on top of each game not adding simple features and taking some out and advertising dreads and game presentation intros. They need to focus mainly on gameplay and player mechanics...no reason why a nose guard in a 3-4 should have 2-3 sacks in one game because the dline spin move in unblockable

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                      • northface28
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 764

                        #1361
                        Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                        Real quick:


                        •The dreads remind me of "Predator"

                        •Sacks are way too easy, blitzes yield sacks at a high rate (80% percentile)

                        •Pogo stick jumping LBs are still here

                        •Skinny posts still money in the bank

                        •Cpu cant run spread option out of gun, makes teams like Oregon useless.

                        CC and new tackling system is enough to hold my interest, but same ole legacy issues loom.

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                        • BlitzPackage
                          Rookie
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 16

                          #1362
                          Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                          Well, I played a few games and have a short review. In my opinion, it is impossible to get any pass over the linebackers. I can't even precision pass over them. I don't mind a challenge, but it now limits my passing options to the wideouts by the sidelines where the DBs know the routes better than the reciever. If there is someone here who has success getting balls over the linebackers, I'd like to see a video. Can't seem to make a judgement call on this game yet based on the demo. I'm sure there will be growing pains. Also wondering if the tuner sets will impact gameplay enough to please the community.

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                          • tahjimoto
                            Rookie
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 44

                            #1363
                            Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                            First day buy.. nuff said

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                            • Reggie16
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 844

                              #1364
                              Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                              Originally posted by tahjimoto
                              First day buy.. nuff said
                              Same here bro!
                              NBA: Los AngelesLakers 2009-2010 World Champions
                              NFL:
                              OaklandRaiders

                              Patiently Wating.....Madden 12, Ncaa 12

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                              • blklightning
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 1303

                                #1365
                                Re: NCAA Football 12 Demo Available Now, Post Your Impressions Here (360, PS3)

                                once again, ps3 replays look like crap. thanks once again for the afterthought port, tiburon.

                                also, it's nice to see the return of DBs that cut before the receiver does. yes, that's really great. gonna have to wait for the madden demo to see if that side of the office did any better this year.
                                Last edited by blklightning; 06-30-2011, 11:26 PM.
                                My score for Madden 13: 4.5/10

                                3 points for graphics, 1 point for the passable commentary, and a half point for the boxart. I can give no further points since the all over the place gameplay would ruin it anyway.

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