Fact or Fiction: NCAA Football 12 Outlook

[Redacted01]

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College Football is ESPN, ABC, and CBS. With one commentary team, it greatly diminishes the presentation EA has worked so hard on.

And the NFL is on CBS, FOX, ESPN, and NBC. NBA is on ABC, TNT, ESPN, etc... You can't cover everything.

[SECElit3]

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Name another company that currently makes a football game?

Natural Motion and Midway games recently.

[Pokes404]

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Gameplay is improved, no doubt. But as long as the player movement, foot planting, and OL/DL interactions remain this bad, this game is never going to draw me in.

Those things are so basic to how the game is played that as long as they are this unrealistic, the game is never going to look, feel, or play like a "sim" football game should. Unfortunately, judging from the lack of progress in these areas for years, it doesn't look like they are planning any more changes in these areas on this generation. I may have to wait until next-gen to get the game I've been looking for.

The game gets better every year, but they put themselves in such a hole to begin with that I doubt they'll ever climb out of it on the current generation of consoles.

[TFunaro]

I totally agree with Jayson.

[sparkdawg777]

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Natural Motion and Midway games recently.

Let me rephrase that, college football games with licenses.

As long as someone has the licenses then the other football games will not stand a chance.

[RumbleStud]

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Haven't bought an EA sports football game in years, but I have played them all by borrowing from friends and every year I always think the same thing "*sigh* damn license...I wonder what NFL2K__ would have been like?..."(dream sequence). Then NCAA Football 11 drops with glowing reviews but never been able to get my hands on 1 b/c my friends don't do "college" but it definitely peaked my interest enough to download this years demo and well I'll put it this way, if Madden 12 doesn't play as equally or better than this demo, then NCAA 12 will be the 1st college AND football game I've bought ina long time.

This game actually looks and most importantly PLAYS the way it should. Did suction really have to take this long to fix? I mean seriously, the elimination of this one glitch has done WONDERS for this game.

[sparkdawg777]

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I'm an NCAA guy, I've bought it every year since 99, all I'm saying is without licenses the new football games can't compete. Look at MLB and what 2k has done, if it were not for Sony then The Show would not be around and baseball video games would suck. Of course you'd still have the fanboys who say "well, name a better game" 2k5 was 6 years ago. Look at what it had, compared to now the features have taken a step back from that. NCAA is still a good football game but we have know idea if there was real competition that it would be the best.

[209vaughn]

NCAA 12 would be a great game if it was the only game on the market. I've said this over and over again, but i think gamers are looking at Madden 12, they're looking at 2k11 and are starting to expect more depth from there franchise modes.

[prowler]

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So basically the game is great and if we were expecting more it's our own fault.

[TDenverFan]

I think people were expecting some complete game redesign unrealistically. They can't fix every problem in one year.

[sparkdawg777]

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I think people were expecting some complete game redesign unrealistically. They can't fix every problem in one year.

Yeh I agree with what you are saying. I'm going to love this game, I'm sure but my disappointment comes from the WAY they do things like presentation, CC, and some of the gameplay. I just feel Madden is getting it right with presentation this year and NCAA is missing out. The CC isn't being implemented right in my opinion either without coach ratings, and there are still some flaws in gameplay (CPU running out of the spread for example) However, this game will still be fun and I think '13 will have a chance to be one of the best football games ever made.


Without criticisism the dev team would be on their own. There's a difference between some of the haters on here and those who still enjoy the game but just want to see it pushed forward.

[Bullet Sponge]

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I'd like to comment on two things. Firstly regarding how they are finally getting back to the level of lastgen; I'm glad to see they admit stripping it down to start over was a mistake. I think many of us here felt it was just a way to reintroduce old features as "new" year after year to make a buck. I'd like to take a more open minded approach and just accept that perhaps translating all that old code (and features builts up over several years on last gen) was not the easy task we all think it is, and they simply decided to start from scratch. But now that they admit that was the wrong way to go, I'm hoping we see nextgen NCAA hit the ground running.

Now regarding presentation, I appreciate their hard work on the pregame graphics etc but what fans REALLY want, and have wanted for years, is more dynamic commentary both during and around the game (i.e when those fancy pregame rituals are on screen, we want to hear Nessler and Herbie discussing the last matchup between these teams, how this game is important (conference standings?), why one player is doing this or that this year. Actual relevant analysis of the game, not generic comments.

But I would like to make it very clear I am looking forward to this game as much as I have for ANY NCAA football title to date, and I've played them since 2003.

[PJ33]

CPU throwing the ball away? I had 8 sacks in my game on Heisman and not once did they throw it away.

Camera angles are very stale. I have yet to see any broadcast angle where a camera circles a stadium constantly.

I did like the collisions though, much improved there.

[SeaOfRed75]

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I'm not a fan of those 2K football games. NCAA 12 may be the best football game ever created on the PS3. But that doesn't mean it's a truly great game or a revolutionary improvement over NCAA 11.

I do get tired of everyone judging people that have a different opinion as though we are whiners or have an agenda. I do have tough standards. I have no problem admitting to that. But just because someone disagrees with someone doesn't mean they have an axe to grind. People will always have different opinions and people need to respect a differing view point.

Agree completely.

I think it is ridiculous that its 2011 and a football video game isnt using a physics based engine. Thats my opinion. I expect more than tweaks and finally fixing things that were examples of very very poor attention to detail. (ie medical redshirts...not hard to program and imo inexcusable to not be in the game)

I will buy NCAA 12. College football is by far my favorite sport. I cant bring myself to not buy the newest version.

That doesnt mean we all have to get all lovey in our praise of EA. My damn 60 dollars every year does that enough.

[BadAssHskr]

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Nice write up agree with most of what you said. However, I disagree with what you were saying in response to jayson. Or at least the presentation part, the presentation has been poor compared to what NCAA Basketabll 10 was capable of doing in a couple months (adding CBS). Now I don't mean that EA needs CBS (though I wish they would) but rather that compared to other sports games the commentary is bland and the rest of the presentation is a disappointment, it is better than 11, but it is not the true ESPN broadcast feel that NCAA Basketball had. The replay cams absolutely kill the real presentation feel to me. I think they will be able to focus more on the presentation next year especially after seeing Madden 12.

I'm not saying you in general, i quoted this because you brought the point up first.

I think there gets to be a pretty divided misunderstanding when it comes to presentation.

Seems to me people get presentation and commentary confused. Lets face it, the game presentation is excellent, bevo is unbelievable. EA's gone to great extent on making the game feel and sound like college football.

Commentary is where I think people get disappointed with, we've been hearing a lot of the same lines, same stuff for a long time. Every year it seems to improve however, yet it's certainly not like watching a live game on saturday night.

Just my ½ cent here, i'm not complaining, just pointing out I feel there is some misunderstanding.