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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33937

    #1

    FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

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  • PowerPitcher
    Banned
    • Mar 2011
    • 112

    #2
    So what I would like to know is, FIFA is known as the best sports game EA makes, but Madden is the cash cow.
    So how much longer do we have to wait until EA pulls their head out of their @$$ and puts these guys to work on Madden?

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    • sva91
      MVP
      • Feb 2005
      • 2019

      #3
      Originally posted by PowerPitcher
      So what I would like to know is, FIFA is known as the best sports game EA makes, but Madden is the cash cow.
      So how much longer do we have to wait until EA pulls their head out of their @$$ and puts these guys to work on Madden?
      Actually, Fifa is the cash cow. But I agree.

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      • JJT
        Pro
        • Mar 2010
        • 806

        #4
        Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

        the small things make a huge difference, love it!

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        • PowerPitcher
          Banned
          • Mar 2011
          • 112

          #5
          Originally posted by sva91
          Actually, Fifa is the cash cow. But I agree.
          Only because FIFA is a more global market, here in the US most people only talk about soccer every 4 years, and thats to complain about it taking up precious time on SportsCenter. My point being, because FIFA is a global market and Madden is more USA only, EA really doesn't devote as much resources into Madden?????
          EA, I think will pay a steep price for Dicking around their fans when EA's NFL rights expire.

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          • bluntworthy
            Rookie
            • Jun 2011
            • 2

            #6
            Great video. The guys working on FIFA really get it. They captured players' field vision in a way that makes sense and didn't need to make a gimmick out of it.

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            • guaps
              Observer
              • Sep 2009
              • 694

              #7
              Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

              Originally posted by PowerPitcher
              Only because FIFA is a more global market, here in the US most people only talk about soccer every 4 years, and thats to complain about it taking up precious time on SportsCenter. My point being, because FIFA is a global market and Madden is more USA only, EA really doesn't devote as much resources into Madden?????
              EA, I think will pay a steep price for Dicking around their fans when EA's NFL rights expire.
              As a European, I think the main problem is that Tiburon doesn't deliver a worthy game anymore. The market for football is actually pretty big in Europe, but of all my friends who are interested in football, no one plays Madden.

              Football is shown on television and there are plenty of competitive tackle and flag football leagues all over Europe. Even fantasy football is common here. I, for example, have been in a fantasy football league with the same guys for the last 8-9 years, and we used to play Madden all the time on last gen. Current gen has just been a big failure for Madden in Europe, as they didn't have the same dependable buyers in the European market as they have in the US market. Madden was just starting to catch on here in Europe when Tiburon dropped it all on the floor by not delivering.

              The market is definitely there, but you cannot expect people will buy Madden until it matches the other sports games (mainly FIFA) in terms of quality gameplay. 500 new camera angles in Madden 12 isn't gonna make anyone I know buy the game.

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              • JerseySuave4
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 5152

                #8
                Originally posted by PowerPitcher
                Only because FIFA is a more global market, here in the US most people only talk about soccer every 4 years, and thats to complain about it taking up precious time on SportsCenter. My point being, because FIFA is a global market and Madden is more USA only, EA really doesn't devote as much resources into Madden?????
                EA, I think will pay a steep price for Dicking around their fans when EA's NFL rights expire.
                those are just the ignorant people who like american football over soccer so they feel they need to just bash soccer. I came from american football but for work most of our business is soccer and ive come to greatly appreciate it and ive noticed over the past few years the interest of soccer rising in this country.

                That being said, Fifa is still the cash cow because it sells more around the world than Madden could imagine.

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                • PowerPitcher
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2011
                  • 112

                  #9
                  Originally posted by JerseySuave4
                  those are just the ignorant people who like american football over soccer so they feel they need to just bash soccer. I came from american football but for work most of our business is soccer and ive come to greatly appreciate it and ive noticed over the past few years the interest of soccer rising in this country.

                  That being said, Fifa is still the cash cow because it sells more around the world than Madden could imagine.
                  I wouldn't call someone disliking soccer "ignorant" I can think of a hundred reasons people wouldn't enjoy watching a sport for an hour and the score still being 0-0. I do understand why the sport is more popular in the world (only requires a ball) but the word "ignorant" could very easily be used to describe half of the soccer fans in the world too. Just saying, it was a poor choice of wording, you could have tried a little harder to come up with a decent insult.

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                  • LucianoJJ
                    Pro
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 593

                    #10
                    This is a nice feature in helping to individualize player performance. Watching the video made me think of the passing cone in Madden a few years ago.

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                    • Rules
                      Go Irish
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 3813

                      #11
                      Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

                      This video is so awesome as I love the little things.

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                      • Whitesox
                        Closet pyromaniac
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 5287

                        #12
                        Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

                        Originally posted by PowerPitcher
                        I wouldn't call someone disliking soccer "ignorant" I can think of a hundred reasons people wouldn't enjoy watching a sport for an hour and the score still being 0-0. I do understand why the sport is more popular in the world (only requires a ball) but the word "ignorant" could very easily be used to describe half of the soccer fans in the world too. Just saying, it was a poor choice of wording, you could have tried a little harder to come up with a decent insult.
                        And I can think of two hundred ignorant comments I've heard from people bashing soccer. I'm not saying you're ignorant, nor am I saying any sport is perfect, but those people exist. Saying Madden is the cash cow is an ignorant statement, however. FIFA brings in more money on a global scale, which in the end, is all that matters.
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                        • Skyliner80
                          Rookie
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 76

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PowerPitcher
                          I wouldn't call someone disliking soccer "ignorant" I can think of a hundred reasons people wouldn't enjoy watching a sport for an hour and the score still being 0-0. I do understand why the sport is more popular in the world (only requires a ball) but the word "ignorant" could very easily be used to describe half of the soccer fans in the world too. Just saying, it was a poor choice of wording, you could have tried a little harder to come up with a decent insult.
                          It's actually a good description on how a big part of Americans view soccer. I'm as American as Apple Pie and I admit there is such thing as an "American Ignorance" towards soccer. I put it in quotes because it's an actual phrase, believe it or not. I here it locally on the AM airways and amongst friends. We still have this 'jock' attitude towards it like it has nothing to offer the country as far as entertainment. As a country, we're even cocky enough to name our league champs, "World Champs" when our clubs, sans our olympic teams, don't even play against clubs from other countries.

                          In soccer, seasons aren't over. You win your league championship? Good. Now you're qualified to play in a league full of champions from your respective regional confederation. Win and you can compete in an additional tournament for all the regional champs, and perhaps then, you at least have the right to be called "World Champion". It's a great sport. Your club and national teams have a chance and earn the right to be called "World Champs". Here in the states, the MLS is growing. Yes, it's not the NFL, NBA or even MLB but don't surprised if it passes the NHL in popularity in the next few years.

                          The reason I think the word 'ignorance' suits is because soccer isn't even given a chance in their eyes. I love the NFL. Football is number one in my book, and soccer has climbed over the years to 3rd in my book...sometimes 2nd. I'm not a huge fan of the NHL or MLB but I understand the sports and appreciate them. I used to be one of those Americans ignorant to soccer until I gave it a chance and it quickly grew on me. I hope more people give it a chance because I'd like our country to have a part in the "Beautiful Sport".

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                          • Whitesox
                            Closet pyromaniac
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 5287

                            #14
                            Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

                            Originally posted by Skyliner80
                            The reason I think the word 'ignorance' suits is because soccer isn't even given a chance in their eyes.
                            Not only this, but I've heard such gems as "Soccer teams take timeouts too" and "Diving only exists in soccer". I've given up on debating those people, it's just frustrating when someone says something is stupid without even giving it a chance first.
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                            • sva91
                              MVP
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 2019

                              #15
                              Re: FIFA 12 Video - Pro Player Intelligence: Vision

                              Originally posted by Whitesox
                              Not only this, but I've heard such gems as "Soccer teams take timeouts too" and "Diving only exists in soccer". I've given up on debating those people, it's just frustrating when someone says something is stupid without even giving it a chance first.
                              Add me to the list of guys who hated on soccer and now see it as my number one sport (by far). I actually see American sports soo watered down and a lot of fans almost toolish (prob just the ignorant fans i talk to).. I think the main reason people dont appreciate soccer is because they don't realize how difficult it is to play at a high level. Professionals make it look so easy just to trap a ball coming at them from 40 yds away. I dont wanna get in a huge debate.....but this is how I see it...

                              Football- way too much dead time, way too many timeouts/commercials, field goal kickers are more valuable than every player except the qb.

                              Basketball- great sport, but game is pretty much irrelevant until the last 6 minutes or soo.

                              Baseball- waaay too much dead time. I think I read the ball is only in play 6 minutes in a 3 and half hour game...crazy.

                              I usually despise women's sports, but I have found myself watching the Women's World Cup on occasion because these girls are soo technical...its awesome.

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