Fact or Fiction: NCAA Football 12 Outlook

[statum71]

Ok, I agree there are some people who do complain and expect more. But THIS is not a problem to me. Now it can get annoying from some people who complain about things that they have no clue about but for the others that do and just want the best football game possible, I see no problem with the critisism as long as they are acknowledging the good as well. The problem we have is NCAA and Madden are monopolies, they have no competition and the only thing they have to push them are our opinions/money, now I am not talking about the devs here, I think they are really starting to listen to the hardcore fans now, who are the minority. You can not "settle" that this is the best they could have done or they will only give you the same effort each time. They need to get better every year, I think some people are just soft or don't understand the importance of different opinions. But to categorize "It's people like this..." kind of pisses me off, although I'm sure there was no intention of offending anyone but its more that I'm pissed off of the idea that we've become a fanbase that has to be positive even when there are still plenty of negatives.

Its just like if you are a coach and your receiver makes a great catch but didn't run the route properly. You praise the receiver for the catch but you also have to get on him about running the route correctly or he'll do it wrong again.

That's my perspective.

Now I will still enjoy NCAA 12 and express how much I am enjoying it once I get the game, but at the same time I will point out the negatives as well.

I can agree with the example.

But if the receiver WAS running a bad route AND dropping the ball before........I can appreciate that he did do SOMETHING better. Though he still could be better.

To say he's doing the same thing he always does just wouldn't be fact.

[sparkdawg777]

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I can agree with the example.

But if the receiver WAS running a bad route AND dropping the ball before........I can appreciate that he did do SOMETHING better. Though he still could be better.

To say he's doing the same thing he always does just wouldn't be fact.

I'm not trying to focus too much on the example I gave because obviously NCAA gets better each year. I'm just saying it is ok to praise something and point out the negatives at the same time. That's the main point of the example.

If you want to stick to the example, EA is the only receiver we have so if he's still doing something wrong we have to point it out, i.e. CPU TO A.I., no huddle too fast, etc. Fact is if it were not for the people who criticised the zone coverage being awful who knows if it would have been fixed. The CPU spread running game is still bad, there are still flaws along with the good.

[TreyIM2]

Without reading all of this - If one is to compare what NCAA 12, even 11, has done to NBA2K is WORK ON GAMELPLAY. I've said it several times about 2K going hard on icing and doing next to squat about the cake. They bank on the psychology that MANY, perhaps TOO MANY, of us are VISUAL BEINGS more than anything else. Think about how that comes to play with women and cars....

Yes, EA can do more with presentation but all that means nothing to me if gameplay isn't there and/or improves and this is why my 2K11 has caught early dust where as NCAA 11 survived MUCH longer with me.

[CRMosier_LM]

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I got my retail version in the mail today...downloaded the 1st tuner set and WOW! This game blows NCAA 11 to unrecognizable bits and pieces. Someone call a C.S.I. because NCAA 11 just got murdered!

[BenGerman]

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What other games, there has only been one. I would love to see multiple commentary teams but let's be realistic. Brad Nessler and Kirk Herbstreit arent doing this for free. Throw inone or two more commentary teams and there is additional cost.

Both FIFA and NCAA Basketball have used more than one broadcast team. That would be two games.

I don't know if you read my other post, but I think a lot of people would be willing to pay for some DLC that allowed us to download another broadcast team like FIFA did. Maybe like $3. And I am being realistic. They have said this is something they are looking into. I don't see what the big deal is that I'm asking that EA do something with their commentary situation?

I haven't trashed NCAA 12 at all, and I love everything they have done with the game. I loved the Demo and I'll be the first in line to pick the game up. But it is clear at this point that they need to take a new direction with the commentary. Whether it be Dynamic Commentary or multiple broadcast teams.

[sparkdawg777]

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Both FIFA and NCAA Basketball have used more than one broadcast team. That would be two games.

I don't know if you read my other post, but I think a lot of people would be willing to pay for some DLC that allowed us to download another broadcast team like FIFA did. Maybe like $3. And I am being realistic. They have said this is something they are looking into. I don't see what the big deal is that I'm asking that EA do something with their commentary situation?

I haven't trashed NCAA 12 at all, and I love everything they have done with the game. I loved the Demo and I'll be the first in line to pick the game up. But it is clear at this point that they need to take a new direction with the commentary. Whether it be Dynamic Commentary or multiple broadcast teams.

You mean for this year or next year? I would definately put down $3 for new commentary.

[BenGerman]

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You mean for this year or next year? I would definately put down $3 for new commentary.

The Madden team I believe said they were looking into it (could have been NCAA) for next year. They said its something that is very difficult to get together, but I don't doubt that its something they could do in the next couple of years, if not next.

[MattP598]

Adding an entrance that 9 out of 10 of us skip over at the beginning of the game is not adding presentation. Show us some stats on the screen. Tell us how many catches our wide receiver has for the year after he makes a catch with an overlay. Show us how many yards we are averaging on first down occasionally. Stuff like that.

This is definitely a second tier sports game on next gen. I know it's comparing two different sports, but the Show and NCAA football series is no comparison. Yea, the show's announcers are stale, but at least they changed one of them. We have been hearing the same crap from the same guys in NCAA since I can remember. And at least the Show's announcers will acknowledge stuff about the game happening. Things like the batter is 2-4 for the day when he comes to the plate or how many pitches the pitcher has thrown. Why can't NCAA tell us how many passes the QB has completed? The realism of the Show is unprecedented.

I'm not going to get in to the horrible physics, and terrible A.I.

With all that said, I will give NCAA props on the online dynasty. It makes the game playable because there is no way I could still be playing dynasty's against the CPU right now.

I will admit I eat, sleep, and breath college football and my standards are high, but I just expected more from this game by the year 2011.

[canes21]

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So adding on to presentation is no longer considered adding to presentation. Oh OS...

[MattP598]

If watching a team run out of tunnel gets you going more power to you.

[khaliib]

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I got my retail version in the mail today...downloaded the 1st tuner set and WOW! This game blows NCAA 11 to unrecognizable bits and pieces. Someone call a C.S.I. because NCAA 11 just got murdered!

I wish we knew what the 1st Tuner Set consisted of.
Would go a long way in helping the community to move on.

[RUFFNREADY]

What i dont get is; why would EA send out a Demo that is an older build of a game; than the demo that they showed off at E3 this year? Dont they always want to put their best foot forward, and sell lots of games? Is this good business practice?
cheers, from a concerned gamer.

[canes21]

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If watching a team run out of tunnel gets you going more power to you.

It's not like I sit there and jump up and down while I watch the pregame stuff, but I definitely never skip anything. If the game loaded and went simply to the kickoff, or coin toss, then I'd be pretty upset. Myself and others enjoy watching teams run on to the field. Even in NCAA 11 when it was the same camera angles over and over, I never skipped an entrance in my dynasties.

[BestServedCold]

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What i dont get is; why would EA send out a Demo that is an older build of a game; than the demo that they showed off at E3 this year? Dont they always want to put their best foot forward, and sell lots of games? Is this good business practice?
cheers, from a concerned gamer.

Maybe they had to submit the demo to Microsoft and Sony before E3

[He1nousOne1]

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What i dont get is; why would EA send out a Demo that is an older build of a game; than the demo that they showed off at E3 this year? Dont they always want to put their best foot forward, and sell lots of games? Is this good business practice?
cheers, from a concerned gamer.

Well, Nike paid for that Demo to come out. That means that business arrangement may have happened at a point in time when the game was in the state that we saw it in the Demo. Instead of updating the Demo in real time as they were updating the main game they just kept it as it was when the arrangement was made.

Nike gets their uniforms shown off in a special demo and the final build is kept out of the hands of every single consumer until the 12th.