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  • bwiggy33
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    • Jul 2006
    • 2003

    #16
    Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

    I have a feeling that more was done but just wasn't said. There is no way that can be all. I mean they said they had some big feature and if that is the sim game tracker thing than that is pretty pathetic. I sim games just like most people do, but seriously, we all buy the game to actually play it. I was thinking they would add something to spice up trades, free agency, or something that actually has to do with being a GM. Simming does not count as being a GM unless you love to watch an action tracker for 82 games. I do agree the simming engine was totally broke. It totally needed to be redone, and it sounds like it has been. The thing is, simming should be tuned every year instead of all of a sudden coming out with it as a feature.

    God I hope there is more. I was waiting for them to announce something huge today, but their announcement has been a little bit of a let down. I will say that often times it seems like the community day people offer more info than the actual game developers do. Hopefully they will be able to add a few things to the list.

    On another note I would have just been happy if they would have cleaned up all of the problems with NHL 11's BaGM. I have a feeling that maybe they did, they just didn't include it because it wasn't something new to the mode. They could have just been talking about only the new additions, and not all of the things that were done to the mode. At least I hope that's the case.
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    • Flamesfan102
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      • Aug 2009
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      #17
      Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

      Originally posted by BlueNGold
      I hope this isn't it. I don't think this is, but who knows.

      I like the changes/tweaks they listed in the blog, but I am/was expecting a lot more.

      Don't worry, I'm pretty sure EA would not release everything they have done to be a gm in one blog. I'm guessing their is a few more tweaks/additions to learn about which will be released in the coming weeks.

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      • Vikes1
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        • May 2008
        • 4102

        #18
        Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

        Originally posted by Flamesfan102
        Don't worry, I'm pretty sure EA would not release everything they have done to be a gm in one blog. I'm guessing their is a few more tweaks/additions to learn about which will be released in the coming weeks.
        I gotta say, I'm hoping so Flames.

        I mean...it's great that the sim engine seems much improved, more realistic number of injuries, better trade logic, etc.. But dang, if this and the Stat tracker is about it for the GM mode....yep, that's kinda disappointing.

        I won't hold my breath, but hopefully GM blog #2 is coming soon!:wink:
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        • BestServedCold
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          • Jul 2010
          • 673

          #19
          Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

          So, all the hype... for that?

          Uhhh retired jerseys... nice I guess, but come on I was expecting more from what IGN and other people who had tried it said (things like, "I can't wait to discuss Be A GM mode!").

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          • Vikes1
            Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
            • May 2008
            • 4102

            #20
            Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

            Originally posted by TDKing
            No custom season length !! Major disappointment... I DON'T WANT TO SIM GAMES !
            Yep...that's a drag TD.

            I must admit, I'd rather have had a custom season length, than the Stat tracker.
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            • bwiggy33
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              • Jul 2006
              • 2003

              #21
              Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

              Originally posted by Vikes1
              Yep...that's a drag TD.

              I must admit, I'd rather have had a custom season length, than the Stat tracker.
              Even I would want custom season length over stat tracker and I would never even think to play a season that isn't a full 82 games. The thing that kills me about the stat tracker is that only a select amount of people will actually use it to it's full purpose. Not everyone sims a bunch of games during their season. I do understand that people want to be able to have some sort of control over the simmed game because they don't have the time to play a full game. I just know that when I sim a game, it's for the purpose of moving through my season faster and I do it through the calendar instead of going to each individual game and using the simulator that is built in now.

              As I've said before I don't think most of us play this game as a simulator like Eastside Hockey Manager. This is ultimately a video game, where using the controller to skate, shoot, pass, and score occurs. That's just what's kind of ticking me off right now. I just don't believe so much time needed to be spent on this Game Track simulator when it could have been spent on so many more important parts to the mode. The simming needed reworking, but it did not need to go into this whole different game tracker system. This is the type of thing that needs to be added when the game mode is nearly perfected. I will say this addition will be great for people who sim most of their games, so they should be pretty happy.
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              • BlueNGold
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                • Aug 2009
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                #22
                Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

                Originally posted by bwiggy33
                Even I would want custom season length over stat tracker and I would never even think to play a season that isn't a full 82 games. The thing that kills me about the stat tracker is that only a select amount of people will actually use it to it's full purpose. Not everyone sims a bunch of games during their season. I do understand that people want to be able to have some sort of control over the simmed game because they don't have the time to play a full game. I just know that when I sim a game, it's for the purpose of moving through my season faster and I do it through the calendar instead of going to each individual game and using the simulator that is built in now.

                As I've said before I don't think most of us play this game as a simulator like Eastside Hockey Manager. This is ultimately a video game, where using the controller to skate, shoot, pass, and score occurs. That's just what's kind of ticking me off right now. I just don't believe so much time needed to be spent on this Game Track simulator when it could have been spent on so many more important parts to the mode. The simming needed reworking, but it did not need to go into this whole different game tracker system. This is the type of thing that needs to be added when the game mode is nearly perfected. I will say this addition will be great for people who sim most of their games, so they should be pretty happy.
                The sim engine couldn't have been re-done without the Action Tracker, so maybe there could have been custom season lengths, but we'd still be stuck with the same broke *** sim engine from years past. I don't think anyone who plays Be A GM would want that.

                Also to your last point, this doesn't just cover simming user games, it covers the entire landscape of your GM mode and the results that are churned out when it comes to player stats and team records. Even if you played all 82 of your games, this still covers your GM mode too because it's simulating what's going on with the CPU teams.

                I'd much rather have this to be honest. Not to downplay the people who want custom season lengths, and it would have been nice to have both of these things, but IMO this was a more important thing to do this year.
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                • bwiggy33
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 2003

                  #23
                  Re: Be A GM Improvements Blog

                  Originally posted by BlueNGold
                  The sim engine couldn't have been re-done without the Action Tracker, so maybe there could have been custom season lengths, but we'd still be stuck with the same broke *** sim engine from years past. I don't think anyone who plays Be A GM would want that.

                  Also to your last point, this doesn't just cover simming user games, it covers the entire landscape of your GM mode and the results that are churned out when it comes to player stats and team records. Even if you played all 82 of your games, this still covers your GM mode too because it's simulating what's going on with the CPU teams.

                  I'd much rather have this to be honest. Not to downplay the people who want custom season lengths, and it would have been nice to have both of these things, but IMO this was a more important thing to do this year.
                  I must have totally misreadthe entire blog then. I was just thinking it was a tracker for each individual game. Like the one they have now where you can see the score after each period and with 5 minutes left in the 3rd period. I just kind of thought this action tracker was replacing it and not having anything else to do with the mode. Thanks for clearing that up. I think what happened was I was a little dissappointed that this was the new feature for the game and I just didn't pay enough attention to what I was reading.
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                  • TDKing
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                    • Feb 2003
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                    #24
                    Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                    Is there a PC/Web interface so I can sim games from my computer? Or are we just playing a text hockey sim on our big screen TVs with 7.1 surround sound?
                    Note: I understand and agree that the sim engine needed to be fixed for cpu controlled teams.
                    Last edited by TDKing; 07-02-2011, 01:05 PM.

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                    • Fiddy
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                      #25
                      Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                      well, at least the action tracker will let me get through some seasons. bc playing this game every day on the ice so to speak starts to suck and get stale. maybe having that tracker will keep me more invested into the seasons.
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                      • bwiggy33
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                        • Jul 2006
                        • 2003

                        #26
                        Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                        Originally posted by Fiddy
                        well, at least the action tracker will let me get through some seasons. bc playing this game every day on the ice so to speak starts to suck and get stale. maybe having that tracker will keep me more invested into the seasons.
                        That's very true. That is why I'm hoping that this game will be better gameplay wise. If the gameplay is better then it will make BaGM a little bit better. I normally try to play all 82 games but it's nearly impossible just because of the gameplay getting boring. Maybe once I actually try out the action tracker, it will be a cool improvement.
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                        • Scottdau
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                          #27
                          Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                          If the player separation is really in this game then that should make a difference in the game not being stale.

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                          • Vikes1
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                            • May 2008
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                            #28
                            Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                            Originally posted by bwiggy33
                            That's very true. That is why I'm hoping that this game will be better gameplay wise. If the gameplay is better then it will make BaGM a little bit better. I normally try to play all 82 games but it's nearly impossible just because of the gameplay getting boring. Maybe once I actually try out the action tracker, it will be a cool improvement.
                            I was actually thinking the same thing Bwiggy.

                            If the gameplay is really involving, it'll really help to make some possible disappointments about features not gotten to, easier to deal with.
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                            • Flamesfan102
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                              • Aug 2009
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                              #29
                              Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                              Finally NHL 12 Be a GM will have suspensions and mid-season contract re-signings!!

                              source - GHuysmans over on IGN boards

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                              • Vikes1
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                                • May 2008
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                                #30
                                Re: NHL 12 Blog- Be A GM Improvements

                                Originally posted by Flamesfan102
                                Finally NHL 12 Be a GM will have suspensions and mid-season contract re-signings!!

                                source - GHuysmans over on IGN boards
                                Two nice additions.
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